Plan B
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: CapriciousRobber on January 23, 2018, 07:44:27 pm
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I don't get why security are given horrible vehicles while terrorist are given bikes, comets, etc.
(before anyone lists these reasons...):
1. "because they are given armor at the start of the game" - armor isn't special, the fact that you can get armor at specific places in every map kind of diminishes the value of spawn armor.
2. "because they have better weapons" - the only thing that security has that is even remotely good is the M4. the sawn off shotgun is horrible, it's an incredibly niche weapon that is only good if you know how to use it. and even then, a bad terrorist with a tec9>a good security with a sawn off. seriously, tec9 is so good. mp5 sucks as well but we all know that.
3. "because they spawn at better locations" - not really, no.
4. "because it's hard for terrorist to kill the president" - it's way easier to kill him than it is to protect him.
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You should ask Donald Trump too that why doesn't he move in his lambo
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If you are a good player, you can take best vehicles... If you have a good secu team, you won't need good vehicles.. If you be a nice kid, one day you can see the smurfs...
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Sentinal -> Second Fastest 4 Door. But pretty average overall. Gets shit by almost any terro vehicle
FBI Rancher-> Decent speed and offroading but too fucking huge and it gets hit rather easily.
Major point being the health system is distributed equally to every goddamn vehicle.
I suggest to give extra health to presi spawn vehicles.
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I suggest to give extra health to presi spawn vehicles.
Interesting, maybe one or two Ranchers could have higher health than others, that would balance it out a bit.
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the sawn off shotgun is horrible
Kill yourself men
It is terrible when you are playing on a low end PC or just a bad ping difference,fookin MP5 is more reliable.
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I suggest to give extra health to presi spawn vehicles.
Interesting, maybe one or two Ranchers could have higher health than others, that would balance it out a bit.
+1. Would be fun seeing terrorists steal extra hp ranchers from presi spawn .
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I agree with him, current vehicles for president spawn are shit, besides rancher, stretch and sentinel are useless.
I suggest to give extra health to presi spawn vehicles.
High health slow cars are not worth anything when you have 10 terros on their db nrg waiting outside the spawn. (And that happens frequently)
President needs fast cars to get away from nrgs, not slow no turret tanks, bikes such as nrg and fcr (even pcj for some players) are overpowered in right hands so bike are big no no for president spawn.
Cheetahs and sultans are better
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Since we have decided to think that Ranchers, stretch and sentinel are useless, then I got an idea.
We should place infernus, NRG and bullet, now after this, its certain that people would start screaming on me after reading this post. I got an explanation of why should we have infernus or bullet.
Benefits:
->President could speed more than NRGs and escape from there.
->The ratio of getting killed as president(referring to newbies) would be decrease with these cars.
->Terrorist class would require more effort and people would certainly start playing the real gamemode.
->President can do stunts and do not need to go somewhere else to get these vehicles.
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->President could speed more than NRGs and escape from there.
NRGs are not neccessary. Any newbie has a 90% chance of getting his MRG thrown away.
PCJ is a much better and balanced alternative or maybe even a FCR but it's weight is a problem. I have escaped shitloads of NRG Spaz terros on a PCJ.
Infernus hell no. It's too wide and fast to drive properly. I'd rather have bullet,much better handling and not far behind in speed.
Terrorist class would require more effort and people would certainly start playing the real gamemode.
Let's be real, that would only happen when regulars stop being emotional wusses and start to shoot each other as opponent class.
President can do stunts and do not need to go somewhere else to get these vehicles.
Meh, NRG whoring is already a hated thing in PTP because many can't keep up with it. You'll get a lots of -1s with this.
and besides the idea of president is not to be a badass, he should be with limitations. The mere idea of stunting involves leaving the security behind.I agree with him, current vehicles for president spawn are shit, besides rancher, stretch and sentinel are useless.
I suggest to give extra health to presi spawn vehicles.
High health slow cars are not worth anything when you have 10 terros on their db nrg waiting outside the spawn. (And that happens frequently)
President needs fast cars to get away from nrgs, not slow no turret tanks, bikes such as nrg and fcr (even pcj for some players) are overpowered in right hands so bike are big no no for president spawn.
Cheetahs and sultans are better
Armored cars = More time to get to the escaping vehicles.
Case in point, If a San Fierro Presi had a stronger FBI rancher he could've gotten to the nearby NRG spawn faster and with a much less chance of getting killed.
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Armored cars = More time to get to the escaping vehicles.
Case in point, If a San Fierro Presi had a stronger FBI rancher he could've gotten to the nearby NRG spawn faster and with a much less chance of getting killed.
"Slower armored car= terrorists following = death after leaving car to get new one Or death from new normal car explosion"
Best way is to gain some distance from them at the start.
Plus, your armored car won't get you any good car or bike unless you are familiar with the map or you have a regular security and you decide to go with him instead of spending your 15 mins with wannabe pro secs who yells "get Hydra noob Mr President" from his attractive looking helicopter that has 400 hp.
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Spawning vehicles at President spawn with more health will be perfect. And I think this topic should be moved to 'Suggestions' section now.
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Because if you put fast cars there, the president would just be highway running
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Give a black bullet
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the sawn off shotgun is horrible
Your PC is horrible
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the sawn off shotgun is horrible
Your PC is horrible
okay? lol
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Your saying Security who have to protect the president.When president is in danger donkeys protect him?!Of course not.FBI and others have to protect him so FBI Ranchers are great for it and some other cars which most of president's have.
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Seriously this guy wants to change everything in PTP
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Fbi is quite fast and better in handling than mkst of the cars. The only minus is that it is a big target to hit, even with the recoil. Idk if you have noticed but these vehicles and weapon sets for classes are themed to be similar to what they have in real life. A president won't be riding a nrg or a bullet with 10 secs jumping over the bike while he is under attack. Armoured fbi vehicles is what he'd be in. Even cops have those heavy police bikes for the same reason.
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Fbi is quite fast and better in handling than mkst of the cars. The only minus is that it is a big target to hit, even with the recoil. Idk if you have noticed but these vehicles and weapon sets for classes are themed to be similar to what they have in real life. A president won't be riding a nrg or a bullet with 10 secs jumping over the bike while he is under attack. Armoured fbi vehicles is what he'd be in. Even cops have those heavy police bikes for the same reason.
You don't see isis ballin on lambos, Ferraris n Ducatis in real life!
the sawn off shotgun is horrible
Your PC is horrible
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/c/c4/Your_armor_is_not_.png/revision/latest?cb=20130926105207)
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Fbi is quite fast and better in handling than mkst of the cars. The only minus is that it is a big target to hit, even with the recoil. Idk if you have noticed but these vehicles and weapon sets for classes are themed to be similar to what they have in real life. A president won't be riding a nrg or a bullet with 10 secs jumping over the bike while he is under attack. Armoured fbi vehicles is what he'd be in. Even cops have those heavy police bikes for the same reason.
The thing is they're not armoured, they have the same hp with other vehicles and having a bigger size than other vehicles make them even easier to destroy. What you said could make sense if they had armor/more hp than the other vehicles. This was already discussed, I don't know the final call though.
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Actually the terrorists cars are normal, they mightve stolen them as you remember the isis that in europe they were stealing cars. But adding some normal cars isnt a bad idea. Like yosemite has almost the same speed as the washington. And Fbi Ranchers have the same speed as the huntleys. I didnt see huntleys at the terro spawn thought.
Btw
Mp5 is good only you suck at it.
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Seriously this guy wants to change everything in PTP
this isn't a suggestion. i put a question mark in the title for a reason. it's not even in the suggestion sub-forum...
can you stop posting on my threads? you are always saying something stupid.
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I actually like the vehicles security have and I enjoy them whether they are an advantage or disadvantage
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Armored cars = More time to get to the escaping vehicles.
Case in point, If a San Fierro Presi had a stronger FBI rancher he could've gotten to the nearby NRG spawn faster and with a much less chance of getting killed.
Plus, your armored car won't get you any good car or bike unless you are familiar with the map or you have a regular security and you decide to go with him instead of spending your 15 mins with wannabe pro secs who yells "get Hydra noob Mr President" from his attractive looking helicopter that has 400 hp.
Lmao 😂
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I actually like the vehicles security have and I enjoy them whether they are an advantage or disadvantage
Same!
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Meh, NRG whoring is already a hated thing in PTP because many can't keep up with it. You'll get a lots of -1s with this.
and besides the idea of president is not to be a badass, he should be with limitations. The mere idea of stunting involves leaving the security behind.
I don't think NRGs are that hated. It's how they're driven that's hated- depending solely on the speed is pretty boring for a pursuer. It's like chasing someone doing rings around LV in an Infernus. I try to avoid doing this because it's more fun for me and the people I'm chasing to stunt and play tricks on people.
If people are complaining about being able to keep up, then the President's doing a great job. There's nothing overpowered about a vehicle that is highly available in every map it's popular in. The real problem is that the people who can't keep up need to get better and/or use better strategy (like not expecting to catch someone who is riding alone when they have a passenger). Do I hear people complaining about not being able to kill each other on foot? No. Why is everyone so wimpy about vehicles? I sucked with NRGs not too long ago. If I can get better, so can everyone else.
Stunting does not involve leaving the security behind if they know what they're doing, and even if they don't follow the President's stunts, they can still perform very valuable tasks like making sure no one else can. A lot a shitty securities seem to think that "protecting" means "being next to the President at all times". In a few cases it's true, but if I've stunted onto a building, I'd rather have most of my security below making sure I stay alone up there. If everyone's up on the building, there's no one stopping the terrorists with a combat shotgun jumping up and nailing me. Also, if all my security aren't in one place, I actually have a chance of having a backup vehicle if things go wrong.
As for why the security have bad vehicles, they don't. I prefer the FBI Rancher over many vehicles, because it's stable but easy to roll back upright, powerful, good for carrying people, makes for good cover, and it drives much better than you'd think. The only real problems it has are that it's large and not incredibly fast, but it's an all-around great vehicle and certainly good enough to get the President to a different car in most situations, if he needs it.
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Yes, the vehicles are sorta slow but i like them , especially the rancher that shit can drift pretty nyc.. :v
Ps: All except that limo ofc , that's a worthless piece of crap
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The reason they we're giving that kind of vehicles is that it's fits on there organization, so just in like reality as you can see all government vehicles we're look nice and formal. They just like based it to realism, peace out.
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You can always use grab or Uber :) :)
Just Kidding..
Grab another car if you don't like those..