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Title: No Reloading
Post by: Ege on January 13, 2017, 07:33:44 am
I was already curious about this but didn't pay much attention until I see Natzuk's report about COBRA and now I thought I need to ask:

Is no reloading sawns allowed in gameplay? I know we're able to do that in duels but especially nowadays I've seen this bug being used too much. Mostly when the player shoots his/her sawns and leaves the opponent with low hp he/she decides to switch to MP5/M4 and kill the opponent instead of waiting for sawns to be reloaded. So I'd like to know if that bug can be used ingame or not.
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: NatzuK on January 13, 2017, 07:43:37 am
As i've been told and seen since last PTP to this PTP.B
In duels you have to reloads your sawns before switching weapons
Outside duels as all other weapons are allowed to switch to avoid reload
Even if sawns are bit different since you fire all 4 shots n switch

If i'm wrong then get 10 admins online 24/7 kicking everybody for switching for not reloading
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: Ege on January 13, 2017, 07:49:00 am
As i've been told and seen since last PTP to this PTP.B
In duels you have to reloads your sawns before switching weapons
Outside duels as all other weapons are allowed to switch to avoid reload
Even if sawns are bit different since you fire all 4 shots n switch

If i'm wrong then get 10 admins online 24/7 kicking everybody for switching for not reloading

Well, you must make sure you understand the rules next time... Players are able to use no-reload in duels in Plan B server, but I don't see a certain rule about reloading sawns in the gameplay which led me to create this topic.
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: NatzuK on January 13, 2017, 07:52:45 am
As i've been told and seen since last PTP to this PTP.B
In duels you have to reloads your sawns before switching weapons
Outside duels as all other weapons are allowed to switch to avoid reload
Even if sawns are bit different since you fire all 4 shots n switch

If i'm wrong then get 10 admins online 24/7 kicking everybody for switching for not reloading

Well, you must make sure you understand the rules next time... Players are able to use no-reload in duels in Plan B server, but I don't see a certain rule about reloading sawns in the gameplay which led me to create this topic.
Well, i do understand the rules(There isn't any rule about it), Players have to reload their sawns in duels even if there isn't a rule that says so, Also no rule that says anything about it outside of duels...
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: Yash on January 13, 2017, 07:59:13 am
Well a few days back i was warned by one of the mod that u cant use 2 shots in duel also without taking permission from the opponent? I never read any such kind of a rule for duels !
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: Faro0s on January 13, 2017, 08:08:17 am
I am not sure if I am correct or not but let me share what I know about it

• Any sort of bug abuse which gives advantage to the player is not allowed.
• It is allowed in 1 vs 1 duel if there is a mutual agreement between the players.
• Skipping the reload animation, I don't know if such rule exist or not but I have done it multiple of times infront of admins and players, i never received neither warning nor punishments.
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: SwirlyMan on January 13, 2017, 09:45:10 am


• Any sort of bug abuse which gives advantage to the player is not allowed.



I think its like bug abusing.
As i've been told and seen since last PTP to this PTP.B
In duels you have to reloads your sawns before switching weapons
Outside duels as all other weapons are allowed to switch to avoid reload
Even if sawns are bit different since you fire all 4 shots n switch

If i'm wrong then get 10 admins online 24/7 kicking everybody for switching for not reloading

Well, you must make sure you understand the rules next time... Players are able to use no-reload in duels in Plan B server, but I don't see a certain rule about reloading sawns in the gameplay which led me to create this topic.
Well, i do understand the rules(There isn't any rule about it), Players have to reload their sawns in duels even if there isn't a rule that says so, Also no rule that says anything about it outside of duels...
Well for your info..
Quote from:  Quido
• No bug abusing
- C-bugging, Slide-bugging and 2-shooting with Sawn Off shotgun is not allowed. These are the only bugs we will punish for. In    duels all bugs are allowed. | Glitching into textures is forbidden | Bugging into classes is forbidden | "Ninja jacking" is                forbidden
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: NatzuK on January 13, 2017, 10:18:09 am


• Any sort of bug abuse which gives advantage to the player is not allowed.



I think its like bug abusing.
As i've been told and seen since last PTP to this PTP.B
In duels you have to reloads your sawns before switching weapons
Outside duels as all other weapons are allowed to switch to avoid reload
Even if sawns are bit different since you fire all 4 shots n switch

If i'm wrong then get 10 admins online 24/7 kicking everybody for switching for not reloading

Well, you must make sure you understand the rules next time... Players are able to use no-reload in duels in Plan B server, but I don't see a certain rule about reloading sawns in the gameplay which led me to create this topic.
Well, i do understand the rules(There isn't any rule about it), Players have to reload their sawns in duels even if there isn't a rule that says so, Also no rule that says anything about it outside of duels...
Well for your info..
Quote from:  Quido
• No bug abusing
- C-bugging, Slide-bugging and 2-shooting with Sawn Off shotgun is not allowed. These are the only bugs we will punish for. In    duels all bugs are allowed. | Glitching into textures is forbidden | Bugging into classes is forbidden | "Ninja jacking" is                forbidden

And i did none of them so your point is? i didn't 2 shot i just used my 4 shot sawns and switched

I am not sure if I am correct or not but let me share what I know about it

• Any sort of bug abuse which gives advantage to the player is not allowed.
• It is allowed in 1 vs 1 duel if there is a mutual agreement between the players.
• Skipping the reload animation, I don't know if such rule exist or not but I have done it multiple of times infront of admins and players, i never received neither warning nor punishments.


Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: Bolek on January 13, 2017, 10:54:09 am
So basically with spas and 7 ammo, you shot 6 and switch back to avoid reload, its allowed?
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: Faro0s on January 13, 2017, 11:14:58 am


• Any sort of bug abuse which gives advantage to the player is not allowed.



I think its like bug abusing.
As i've been told and seen since last PTP to this PTP.B
In duels you have to reloads your sawns before switching weapons
Outside duels as all other weapons are allowed to switch to avoid reload
Even if sawns are bit different since you fire all 4 shots n switch

If i'm wrong then get 10 admins online 24/7 kicking everybody for switching for not reloading

Well, you must make sure you understand the rules next time... Players are able to use no-reload in duels in Plan B server, but I don't see a certain rule about reloading sawns in the gameplay which led me to create this topic.
Well, i do understand the rules(There isn't any rule about it), Players have to reload their sawns in duels even if there isn't a rule that says so, Also no rule that says anything about it outside of duels...
Well for your info..
Quote from:  Quido
• No bug abusing
- C-bugging, Slide-bugging and 2-shooting with Sawn Off shotgun is not allowed. These are the only bugs we will punish for. In    duels all bugs are allowed. | Glitching into textures is forbidden | Bugging into classes is forbidden | "Ninja jacking" is                forbidden

And i did none of them so your point is? i didn't 2 shot i just used my 4 shot sawns and switched

I am not sure if I am correct or not but let me share what I know about it

• Any sort of bug abuse which gives advantage to the player is not allowed.
• It is allowed in 1 vs 1 duel if there is a mutual agreement between the players.
• Skipping the reload animation, I don't know if such rule exist or not but I have done it multiple of times infront of admins and players, i never received neither warning nor punishments.



I am not against anyone, but you are innocent in this case since no such rule is implemented yet.
This bug is a confusing bug not only in ptp but in many servers, i think no such rule is needed since it doesn't give that advantage as cbug and the rest.

So basically with spas and 7 ammo, you shot 6 and switch back to avoid reload, its allowed?

No such rule is implemented yet. So yes.
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: Sani on January 13, 2017, 11:28:05 am
I remember that in duels you can use bugs...and that when you are  secu you can shoot 4 bullets then switch to m4/mp5
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: SwirlyMan on January 13, 2017, 11:49:41 am


• Any sort of bug abuse which gives advantage to the player is not allowed.



I think its like bug abusing.
As i've been told and seen since last PTP to this PTP.B
In duels you have to reloads your sawns before switching weapons
Outside duels as all other weapons are allowed to switch to avoid reload
Even if sawns are bit different since you fire all 4 shots n switch

If i'm wrong then get 10 admins online 24/7 kicking everybody for switching for not reloading

Well, you must make sure you understand the rules next time... Players are able to use no-reload in duels in Plan B server, but I don't see a certain rule about reloading sawns in the gameplay which led me to create this topic.
Well, i do understand the rules(There isn't any rule about it), Players have to reload their sawns in duels even if there isn't a rule that says so, Also no rule that says anything about it outside of duels...
Well for your info..
Quote from:  Quido
• No bug abusing
- C-bugging, Slide-bugging and 2-shooting with Sawn Off shotgun is not allowed. These are the only bugs we will punish for. In    duels all bugs are allowed. | Glitching into textures is forbidden | Bugging into classes is forbidden | "Ninja jacking" is                forbidden

And i did none of them so your point is? i didn't 2 shot i just used my 4 shot sawns and switched

I am not sure if I am correct or not but let me share what I know about it

• Any sort of bug abuse which gives advantage to the player is not allowed.
• It is allowed in 1 vs 1 duel if there is a mutual agreement between the players.
• Skipping the reload animation, I don't know if such rule exist or not but I have done it multiple of times infront of admins and players, i never received neither warning nor punishments.


My bad I thought you shoot 2 then switch it back.
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: Finisher on January 13, 2017, 11:59:01 am
It's 2017 and people still complain about sawnoff being reloaded or not.. You people don't reload any weapon, what the fuck. Get over this crap already it's so retarded
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: COBRA on January 13, 2017, 12:42:49 pm
I was already curious about this but didn't pay much attention until I see Natzuk's report about COBRA and now I thought I need to ask:

Is no reloading sawns allowed in gameplay? I know we're able to do that in duels but especially nowadays I've seen this bug being used too much. Mostly when the player shoots his/her sawns and leaves the opponent with low hp he/she decides to switch to MP5/M4 and kill the opponent instead of waiting for sawns to be reloaded. So I'd like to know if that bug can be used ingame or not.

Skipping reload on sawns means 2-shoot bug. This is not allowed. We have that in rules already. Natzuk knew what he has done there exactly but showing me as a Target for abuser (guilty psychology).

But what Natzuk tried to show me as was "Kicked me for no reloading". Well I kicked him for not reloading his sawns. Cuz he made there 2-shoot bug to kill faster, made more damage and advantage for his team. (More info: http://jonne.be/forum/index.php?topic=869.0)

All you need to know skipping reload on other weapons are allowed. But when you skip reloading on sawns, you make 2-shoot bug with sawnoff.



Edit: Unlocked, because of my fast reading lead me many topics on forum about this thing.. I thought it was about Natzuk's 2-shoot confusion at the first time I read. So I just made a quick-reply. Sorry guys.
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: Faro0s on January 13, 2017, 04:47:18 pm
Cobra, 2-shot and No reload bug in sawn-off are different. 2 shot gives more advantage than the no reload bug. No reload bug is that when shoot 4 shoots of the sawn you will change to uzi or any other weapon and keep shooting, when switch back to sawn, you will have your 4 shoots back without any animation. That's allowed i think.
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: COBRA on January 13, 2017, 05:39:59 pm
Yes Faros, I know the difference between them. The problem was I just made here quick reply by thinking topic was about Natzuk's 2-shoot.
 
.. I thought it was about Natzuk's 2-shoot confusion at the first time I read. So I just made a quick-reply. Sorry guys.
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: Uthar_Smith on January 13, 2017, 08:17:31 pm
• It is allowed in 1 vs 1 duel if there is a mutual agreement between the players.

Bugs are always allowed in duels, agreements aren't required.

To answer your question Ege;
The thing you are describing is allowed as of right now. The rules state that you will only be punished for 2 shooting, C-bug and slide bug. This (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iiKCSDxXgQ) is 2 shooting. The thing you are describing is not 2 shooting, but merely not reloading your sawns. Again, nothing is said about this in the rules so therefore it is allowed.
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: Faro0s on January 13, 2017, 09:27:26 pm
Alright i got everything, but if Natzuk did No reload bug (not 2 shot) why is he punished then ? This is the confusing part wo Ege created this topic.
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: Uthar_Smith on January 13, 2017, 10:11:35 pm
Alright i got everything, but if Natzuk did No reload bug (not 2 shot) why is he punished then ? This is the confusing part wo Ege created this topic.
Because it was a mistake, he should not have been punished. That's why his ban was lifted
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: Storm on January 13, 2017, 11:58:49 pm
Everyone please take your shit and don't camp at armor. No bugs. Play the gamemode
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: NatzuK on January 14, 2017, 03:25:39 am
Alright i got everything, but if Natzuk did No reload bug (not 2 shot) why is he punished then ? This is the confusing part wo Ege created this topic.
Because it was a mistake, he should not have been punished. That's why his ban was lifted

Everyone please take your shit and don't camp at armor. No bugs. Play the gamemode
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Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: COBRA on January 14, 2017, 12:13:18 pm
Alright i got everything, but if Natzuk did No reload bug (not 2 shot) why is he punished then ? This is the confusing part wo Ege created this topic.
Natzuk was punished for 2-shoot bug actually, that's what I get from AC report. But I shouldn't kick him and let the system handle it. That was the mistake and Natzuk keep saying that he didn't 2-shoot. That might be confusing everyone here.

Everyone please take your shit and don't camp at armor. No bugs. Play the gamemode
(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder324/55998324.jpg)
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/57014458.jpg)
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: Faro0s on January 14, 2017, 02:00:17 pm
Alright, thank you for clearing my doubts and sorry for the inconvenience.
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: NatzuK on January 15, 2017, 05:46:13 am
 ::)
Alright i got everything, but if Natzuk did No reload bug (not 2 shot) why is he punished then ? This is the confusing part wo Ege created this topic.
Natzuk was punished for 2-shoot bug actually, that's what I get from AC report. But I shouldn't kick him

Everyone please take your shit and don't camp at armor. No bugs. Play the gamemode
(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder324/55998324.jpg)
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/57014458.jpg)
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Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: Uthar_Smith on January 15, 2017, 07:59:14 pm
To prevent any further confusion:

Weapon bugs that are not allowed:
-C-bug
-2-shooting
-Slide bug

Weapon bugs that are allowed:
-4-shooting
-Avoiding reload
-Minor C-bug
-Normal shotgun animation skipping

If you are unfamiliar with any of these bugs, watch this video:


Remember: ALL bugs are allowed in duels
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: NatzuK on January 15, 2017, 08:14:27 pm
To prevent any further confusion:

Weapon bugs that are not allowed:
-C-bug
-2-shooting
-Slide bug

Weapon bugs that are allowed:
-4-shooting
-Avoiding reload
-Minor C-bug
-Normal shotgun animation skipping

If you are unfamiliar with any of these bugs, watch this video:


Remember: ALL bugs are allowed in duels
Finally......
Ty
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: Hito on January 15, 2017, 08:52:23 pm
To prevent any further confusion:

Weapon bugs that are not allowed:
-C-bug
-2-shooting
-Slide bug

Weapon bugs that are allowed:
-4-shooting
-Avoiding reload
-Minor C-bug
-Normal shotgun animation skipping

If you are unfamiliar with any of these bugs, watch this video:


Remember: ALL bugs are allowed in duels
altus u become famous  :P
ty for information
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: COBRA on January 15, 2017, 10:26:09 pm
To prevent any further confusion:

Weapon bugs that are not allowed:
-C-bug
-2-shooting
-Slide bug

Weapon bugs that are allowed:
-4-shooting
-Avoiding reload
-Minor C-bug
-Normal shotgun animation skipping

If you are unfamiliar with any of these bugs, watch this video:


Remember: ALL bugs are allowed in duels
Thanks for the video!
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: Storm on January 16, 2017, 12:00:39 am
To prevent any further confusion:

Weapon bugs that are not allowed:
-C-bug
-2-shooting
-Slide bug

Weapon bugs that are allowed:
-4-shooting
-Avoiding reload
-Minor C-bug
-Normal shotgun animation skipping

If you are unfamiliar with any of these bugs, watch this video:


Remember: ALL bugs are allowed in duels

This video should be added in rules topic to prevent further confusions about the rules
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: Ege on January 16, 2017, 07:00:25 am
To prevent any further confusion:

Weapon bugs that are not allowed:
-C-bug
-2-shooting
-Slide bug

Weapon bugs that are allowed:
-4-shooting
-Avoiding reload
-Minor C-bug
-Normal shotgun animation skipping

If you are unfamiliar with any of these bugs, watch this video:


Remember: ALL bugs are allowed in duels


Finally the post I was literally waiting for. Thanks Uthar !
Title: Re: No Reloading
Post by: Quido on January 16, 2017, 03:59:49 pm
This video should be added in rules topic to prevent further confusions about the rules

Added. If you have any other questions about this topic feel free to PM an admin and they will assist you.