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General => Suggestions => Topic started by: YoMama on September 08, 2017, 01:26:26 am

Title: [To be added]Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: YoMama on September 08, 2017, 01:26:26 am
Since this (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=1761.60) topic died without an answer to this idea, I'm making this one. A lot of people were suggesting that for serious offenses (aimbotting, damage mods, etc.), banned players should lose their stats (if they're registered). There are more than a few players who have been banned or are banned for cheating but are still among the top players in the user CP (https://www.planbserver.com/cp/stats.php). Not only is it misleading for cheaters to retain their ill-gotten stats, but it's also not exactly discouraging cheating.

Another add-on to this idea- I think adding in a bans section to a player's profile in the CP (which shows all bans and their reasons) would make cheating even less attractive. It's not information that can't already be found, it's just putting it all in one place. If a ban is unjust, it could be "pardoned" and removed from the CP. I thought of this one because some of our players seem to conveniently change their nick after they've been caught.
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Spectre on September 08, 2017, 01:33:03 am
Exactly what I was thinking, I support this 100%
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Pranesh on September 08, 2017, 01:38:25 am
Will fit in perfect for them
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: GlennN on September 08, 2017, 06:07:47 am
Exactly what I was thinking, I support this 100%
As Jonne said in the other suggestion, forcing some rules just on VIP's may not be the perfect idea. But for the /stats, its the same for every player here and I know it's of great value to some players. I've seen newbies asking about the unknown players in /topkills. +1

About the ban history, I guess it should be private and should only be with admins.
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Sani on September 08, 2017, 07:37:08 am
+1
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Freckles on September 08, 2017, 08:19:06 am
+1.agree 100% to reset stats after ban
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Finisher on September 08, 2017, 09:26:26 am
Agreed. Not only that, but VIP hackers lose their VIP level as well once they're banned for cheats.
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: MegaPilot on September 08, 2017, 09:57:39 am
Should really discourage aimbotting, so +1, really good suggestion.
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Panal_Abeja on September 08, 2017, 10:42:03 am
+1
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: IDAN on September 08, 2017, 10:59:18 am
+1
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Ege on September 08, 2017, 11:18:30 am
I agree with every word of YoMama, the punishments can be more discouraging than they are now.
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Madman on September 08, 2017, 12:16:34 pm
Yes but dont make a nub systen please maybe someone will get banned for A/C bug Anticheat and his stats will be reset,so make a smart system for it plus some admins dont abuse it
+1
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Epps™ on September 08, 2017, 12:35:04 pm
+2
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Spectre on September 08, 2017, 12:54:39 pm
As Jonne said in the other suggestion, forcing some rules just on VIP's may not be the perfect idea. But for the /stats, its the same for every player here and I know it's of great value to some players. I've seen newbies asking about the unknown players in /topkills. +1

About the ban history, I guess it should be private and should only be with admins.

I'm not really sure what you're aiming at here, but let me elaborate. This isn't just about "forcing some rules on VIPs", every player who is banned, VIP or just a regular, should have his stats for top kills, top President kills etc, revoked. Not totally remove their stats, that would be ridiculous, but just remove them from any Top 10 lists on CP. It's only fair, don't you think? They managed to accomplish all of that by playing dirty ([Pk]Grey for example has the top monthly spree of 69 kills, and was then soon banned for aimbot lmao).
And about the ban history visibility, again: why not? If some players have the cheek to mod their game and try to cheat the system, why not display it to all others? If I was a new player who was just starting to play here, I'd like to know which players have a history of being cheaters
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Storm on September 08, 2017, 01:20:17 pm
+1
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: MAR. on September 08, 2017, 01:26:48 pm
-1
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: YoMama on September 08, 2017, 01:37:43 pm
About the ban history, I guess it should be private and should only be with admins.
I expected someone to raise this issue. The thing is, bans are not really private- everyone in game can see when someone is banned in the server and makes a ban appeal. This is just consolidating information in one spot for shaming purposes and possibly other uses (like admins being able to see histories). It's also to get around people who change their names to make it more difficult to see their past ban history. It would be extra fun to keep track of the nicknames players had when they were banned, because then you could see if their clan, if they were in one, had enough integrity to kick them.

Yes but dont make a nub systen please maybe someone will get banned for A/C bug Anticheat and his stats will be reset,so make a smart system for it plus some admins dont abuse it
+1
Ideally, it would save a snapshot of someone's stats before they're reset, so they can be restored if necessary.
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Supreme on September 08, 2017, 07:21:53 pm
+1
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Angon 013 on September 08, 2017, 10:34:35 pm
+1
#rustler_squad
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Skipper on September 08, 2017, 11:11:44 pm
+1 , perfect.
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: YoMama on September 09, 2017, 12:38:58 am
-1 (*cough* (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=946.msg7285#msg7285))
He didn't write -1, he wrote +1- why did you change it?

Also, why do you not want it?
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: MAR. on September 09, 2017, 01:26:06 am


Also, why do you not want it?
Dont judge ppl, every player has his own opinion.
Btw i didnt like the idea
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Spectre on September 09, 2017, 02:34:38 am
Btw i didnt like the idea

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Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Pranesh on September 09, 2017, 03:16:46 am
Btw i didnt like the idea

Alot of them will not like it and we all know why.
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: COBRA on September 09, 2017, 02:59:44 pm
yeah good suggestion, +1
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Nikola on September 10, 2017, 03:39:48 pm
Keeping proved hackers on those lists undoubtedly sends a wrong message to players who aspire to be on them. I agree with this and the CP ban info suggestion.
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Bannn. on September 10, 2017, 03:56:18 pm
+1
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: M a k a v e l i . on September 10, 2017, 05:25:12 pm
I agree with both suggestions. As you said these bans are visible to all of us already, then I don't see a problem with adding it in users CP.

Ideally, it would save a snapshot of someone's stats before they're reset, so they can be restored if necessary.
Ideally, head admins only would be able to reset someone's stats if necessary. This should not be done other way imo.
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: AruN. on September 10, 2017, 05:52:57 pm
Only cheaters would disagree to this suggestion. +1
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Hito on September 10, 2017, 06:24:44 pm
+1
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: YoMama on September 13, 2017, 07:33:09 am
Dont judge ppl, every player has his own opinion.
Every player has their own opinion? No shit. However, every player's opinion might actually be considered if they gave valid reasons for having that opinion. I wasn't really judging you before. This may have changed.

Btw i didnt like the idea
So you don't like it because you don't like it? There's got to be some reason (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztrlMvdmiII) why you don't like this idea*cough* (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=946.msg7285#msg7285)

Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Matt on September 18, 2017, 07:17:27 pm
+1 to this wonderful idea, the guilty cheaters need to get something they deserve other than a temporary ban.
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on September 21, 2017, 03:21:56 pm
+1.
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Bingo on September 21, 2017, 03:50:44 pm
+1
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Brian_Walker on September 21, 2017, 05:22:24 pm
+1
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Altus_Demens on September 22, 2017, 01:31:12 am
Aw, woe upon me that I didn't bother including this to my own suggestion. Of course, +1.
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Blitz on September 22, 2017, 02:33:36 am

+1
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: MAR. on September 23, 2017, 06:26:48 pm
So you don't like it because you don't like it? There's got to be some reason (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztrlMvdmiII) why you don't like this idea*cough* (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=946.msg7285#msg7285)
did i cheat??
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: MegaPilot on September 27, 2017, 10:35:51 am
So you don't like it because you don't like it? There's got to be some reason (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztrlMvdmiII) why you don't like this idea*cough* (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=946.msg7285#msg7285)
did i cheat??
Just give a reason why you're against it.
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Aksel on September 27, 2017, 04:03:27 pm
+1 great idea

Only cheaters would disagree to this suggestion. +1
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on October 11, 2017, 09:41:46 pm
30+ : 1 (lol)

I guess we should add Polls and a Lvl4+ Admin response already.

I am suggesting polls only cuz we will get to know how much of this community actually wants to improve it or just use it.

Even if they will hide behind a fake Yes vote it would still be the first step of Suppressing/Correcting them.
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: YoMama on December 04, 2017, 10:03:55 am
So you don't like it because you don't like it? There's got to be some reason (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztrlMvdmiII) why you don't like this idea*cough* (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=946.msg7285#msg7285)
did i cheat??
Hmm... (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=2693.0)
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: PraY on December 20, 2017, 02:22:17 pm
+1
Title: Re: Reset stats when a player is banned for cheating
Post by: Jonne on December 20, 2017, 03:56:42 pm
We'll keep the banned players out of the server stats, like sprees, topkills and all of the stats found on the CP, but we won't remove their stats. As for the bans, I don't think it's a good idea to add the complete history to their profile, but we could add something that says if they're currently banned, and the reason.