Blocking entrance area 69

[Menace]

With 8 nades on the map .. Use it

[Zeta]

-1

[Brian_Walker]

Please dont 

-1

[Magic]

+1 You are right its hard to get in but it might to get in by pushing the car from the back and pressing G after pushing it

[Son_Gun]

-1. How is suppose to hide from Hydras in Area 69 with all terrorits and civilians coming inside to kill him without any barrier?

[MegaPilot]

-1. How is suppose to hide from Hydras in Area 69 with all terrorits and civilians coming inside to kill him without any barrier?

Hydras can't hit the president if he is already inside..

Seriously, are opinions like these taken seriously when a rule change is being taken into consideration? This guy clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Miau]

They don't always make it inside.

They don't always make it to the president's NRG either, if he decides to spend 15 minutes speeding around the map. Or if you decided to camp on a ship and YoMama was guarding the skies, I wouldn't always make it to the ship either. So what?

Reasons to remove this: it's unfair and we can't enter. When people are using NRG's and Mountain Bikes, we can shoot them. When Area is blocked, we can't. That's the difference, it's not rocket science..

You can enter. I mentioned three ways inside, and you only bothered counter-argumenting the hardest one of them (and your argument was that it is hard, not that it is impossible).

Yes, when people use NRGs and mountain bikes you can shoot them, but you have to reach them first (and 90% of the difficulty lies in the "reaching" part). The same applies here.

[Saurabh]

This has been suggested before:
https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=3524.0

My reply in that topic:

The ones with +1 are hardly choosing the sec class so i won't blame them if they didn't consider the other side. If you guys say there are 10+ security/cops  protecting president INSIDE area then it is complete bullshit since half of the securities are dumb to know where presi is or to know how to get inside area to actually protect.

There are already terrorist hydras waiting outside (above)area (80 percent of times) and no cop/security hydra to shoot them down, which makes it hard for secs to go refill or to bring blocking vehicles. Basically, after a couple of minute the NSA map has started , the president is stuck in area  with a hope to survive there. In such case , we gotta ensure president stays safe inside by any means.

We can't afford letting even 3(yes just 3 ) terrorists go inside area when presi literally can't even run for his life(can't sprint in most parts of area). There is no escape vehicle, there is no back exit, nothing. And he is trapped with a bunch of newbie secs most of the times who just mess up the blocking vehicle or nade president.

Also, if it is turismo or some low height car , terros can use spas to clear secs around th enterance. It's not ez, i know, but it should be challenging for terrorists for atleast  ONE map ffs.

-1

[YoMama]

I agree that it's kind of dirty, particularly since it's basically a bug. I think making cars in the corridor impossible to get back into would help, since then a blocking car would actually respawn and give people an opportunity to get in. I do mean only cars, bikes and other vehicles that can't block the corridor should be unaffected. Maybe decreasing the respawn time would be a next step. Just a block of less than a minute can be effective. If people really miss being able to block off the entrance, maybe a one-time (per presidency) physical block of a minute or so, activated by only the President, would be cool. Make it so people can still shoot through so the "firefight through a narrow window" aspect is retained. Maybe a door that comes halfway up from the floor.

Those who are complaining about terrorist Hydras need to actually do something about it. The police/swat class can be the most effective protecting force in NSA, if it's made up of non-idiots. I often end up stopping many of the terrorists from even getting near the President (that includes the ones in Hydras), whether or not he's in Area 69. Two or three reasonable competent police could make it impossible for anyone to get near on the ground, and for anyone to get near from the air by taking over the airports. Before any of you give me the "but I can't fly" bullshit, try learning. I couldn't fly either, at one point.

Also, the Hydra excuse is only half-relevant. This tactic can also be used in WV, which has a much larger Presidential margin for error and therefore little justification for its use.

[Brian_Walker]

I will find a way an block entrance. Cheers   area69

[iDanz0r]

Welcome to samp.
Just like with hydra you are overpowered, there's is always a grey area or loop hole to overcome the situation. Using GTA physics to perform such actions is common and rather than calling it an abuse, i would call it a smart move. Play with tactics, spray your nades and find some way out.
Imho all of these practices are useless unless you have a better team to defend you.

[cobby]

-10

[Deadman]

If ways are blocked then how about adding a deep-6 launch where presi can escape. I remember there is another door that opens but for now it's closed. If you remember the blackproject mission in SP mode. My theory is same, Presi launches from there,as presi launches SAM sites will auto-enable to kill terror hydras, clearing the way for presi and his team, SAM disables when presi get out of range of area from mini map. About launching, Presi will be ejected and will be given a para and get down on ground and escape with a car. It will be a simple solution.

About blocking the main door, putting the barricade will do the job. When presi reaches area, he must close the main door from radar room. That barricade can be destoryed by explosions or gernades or even by kamikaze. Rest will be on terrors. Barricade can be re-enabled after every 3 or 5 minutes (depends on necessity) if and only if barricade destroys somehow.

P.S: Barricade should not be destoryed by hydra rockets.

[LPCOLTER]

what if add that entry too from one of those windows maybe when you can go just while getting out of a vehicle

[Scott_]

after terro die it take 1min to go back to area with armour, i suggest to make a script when 6mins are left, that script  is for respawning any vehicle, not like EMP in COD type lol, they can drive veh but not stopping vehicle respawn, so i guess it will be balance, not too hard not too easy