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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Hito on June 10, 2020, 12:57:34 am
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https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=6232.0
So this mod is a visual mod only to the user but it will shows to other players like a fuckin Fast skin and you fucking cunts allow that ?? Are you Fucking kiddin me ?it wont be a problem since she can access to fast skins ?? Are you fuckin dumb ?? Guys this is a cheat i can make skins like ID 230 and 137 runs like fast skin bruhh
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i was about to creat a topic about this,i really don't fucking undrestand those peoples anymore too.
in one way they talk about disagreement of things giving adventage to players,in other way they use something that change playing skin to a fast skin with the dimension of a litle girl wich is hard to attack from your side and vieu of things.
i'm going crazy bb.
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i was about to creat a topic about this,i really don't fucking undrestand those peoples anymore too.
in one way they talk about disagreement of things giving adventage to players,in other way they use something that change playing skin to a fast skin with the dimension of a litle girl wich is hard to attack from your side and vieu of things.
i'm going crazy bb.
Dude for real Ive seen Carg warn people about not using "trees without leaves" mod, you know what ? Im gonna fuckin use it also aimbot is not a cheat it helps player to aim
Fuck you all
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I agree with this
why doesnt she use fast skin, instead of the 'fastped.cs' cheat, this mod gives advantage, because other players will just deal with it as a normal skin. majority know how normal and fast skins work
bad move, jonne
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I love how they replied to this topic. Protecting thier staff members and jonne simping fucking hard
If it were a regular he was getting banned for sure
This is an advantage since all the fast skins are larger than the regular skins which would be hard to hit
Time for me to install some illegal mods now ;D
I hope I get grace for it as well
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Dude i had a fight with her,i had full armor and health,attacked her when she was sniping and she had 50 hp she almost killed me with those fast moves.
PS : Altus if you know about this earlier ,never talk in the future about fair play,tell me how much newbies she killed with this and they rq, how much kills she gets from using this, what's the different btw this and hax.
they will say we will not allow this Mod anymore, and she will come back without a punishement again and again.
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Dude i had a fight with her,i had full armor and health,attacked her when she was sniping and she had 50 hp she almost killed me with those fast moves.
PS : Altus if you know about this earlier ,never talk in the future about fair play,tell me how much newbies she killed with this and they rq, how much kills she gets from using this, what's the different btw this and hax.
they will say we will not allow this Mod anymore, and she will come back without a punishement again and again.
The thing that upsets me this most is that you can CLEARLY see in her self busted video that she is toggling it on by the way she pauses and starts to move faster.
Even in fights when I beat her when she has it deactivated, she comes back with these quicker movement
Like what the actual hell
And then Jonne has the audacity to say she's using a skin changer client?
Clearly he doesnt know how these mods work and has NO knowledge about these dirty hacks.
We have to put him on blast
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Epic
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Someone give us the link of this mod to be equaled with Mia since it's allowed .
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Someone give us the link of this mod to be equaled with Mia since it's allowed .
if u find link pm me
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Mod Pls?
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I have it :P
Fastped.cs is a cleo file that makes your skin like a fast skin. For example, use /vskin 98 and with the fastped.cs in the cleo folder, you must toggle it by pressing some key combinations then boom, your skin is literally like a fast skin.
It works even with fast skin too but I think it would be impossible to shoot them with fast skin using fastped.cs. Tested it and it pretty looks op. Sometimes "litefoot" occurs if you have 90+ fps with fastped.cs.
Can't share with you all because I've got it from a private discord server. But check at youtube, I found them in there but not the same as mine tho. I tested the one from youtube and the one I've got from discord, the youtube one is the same as the discord one but the difference between the two is that your player/skin gets tired and the other doesn't.
Don't install this, it'll make you more laggy and it can drop fps IF you're playing low fps and that's why it IS a visual mod. When recording too, it'll make you have less fps when using it too if you have shitty pc and fps. Also, I can identify on who's using fastped.cs now if someone use a slow skin and ran in different directions.
I suggest that this type of cleo file shouldn't be allowed.
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Lets all install it...it is legall although it gives advantage over players right? So admins going against there own rules? Haha wow...soon topic will be closed and everything will just continue the same..thats why people keep leaving this server everyday bcz of some cancerous Staff members..Imagine if it was a VIP or Regular player being report..what would be the outcome? Banned, thanks for reporting? Or he/she is allowed to use this Hack to speed up there slow skins? And since Mia is allowed to use it..why not everyone start using it? It is a hack that gives advantages but who cares right? Higher admins arent being punished for it..soo? Should that rule be removed?
Another Question to make you guys think.
Why does she need to pause toggle on then continue to fight? Why she has to toggle it on?..If its a mod, then i think it should be up and running 24/7 dont you think?..Or is it obvs that she toggled it to get a greater advantage over her enemies? Huh? To kill them easly with her slik turns with a normal skin
Dont miss my point
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Another Question to make you guys think.
Why does she need to pause toggle on then continue to fight? Why she has to toggle it on?..If its a mod, then i think it should be up and running 24/7 dont you think?..Or is it obvs that she toggled it to get a greater advantage over her enemies? Huh? To kill them easly with her slik turns with a normal skin
Dont miss my point
Agree
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I just wanna ask @Jonne something.
She's using a mod that can change your skin on the client side.
If it changes the skin on client-side, why is she still on that terrorist skin and running like a fast skin? This is clearly recording of her own screen so Shouldn't she be in a fast skin on her screen/client-side?
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I just wanna ask @Jonne something.
She's using a mod that can change your skin on the client side.
If it changes the skin on client-side, why is she still on that terrorist skin and running like a fast skin? This is clearly recording of her own screen so Shouldn't she be in a fast skin on her screen/client-side?
I think he couldn't explain clearly. This cleo script only changes your normal skin movement to fast skin movement, not visual skin change.
So it would appear the same both to the client , and to the server(other players)
@Jonne
This is definitely NOT a visual mod, and there's an obvious advantage even if she has acess to fast skin in her vip account.
She shouldn't be able to have fast skin moves while being in a slow skin.
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I have it :P
Fastped.cs is a cleo file that makes your skin like a fast skin. For example, use /vskin 98 and with the fastped.cs in the cleo folder, you must toggle it by pressing some key combinations then boom, your skin is literally like a fast skin.
It works even with fast skin too but I think it would be impossible to shoot them with fast skin using fastped.cs. Tested it and it pretty looks op. Sometimes "litefoot" occurs if you have 90+ fps with fastped.cs.
Can't share with you all because I've got it from a private discord server. But check at youtube, I found them in there but not the same as mine tho. I tested the one from youtube and the one I've got from discord, the youtube one is the same as the discord one but the difference between the two is that your player/skin gets tired and the other doesn't.
Don't install this, it'll make you more laggy and it can drop fps IF you're playing low fps and that's why it IS a visual mod. When recording too, it'll make you have less fps when using it too if you have shitty pc and fps. Also, I can identify on who's using fastped.cs now if someone use a slow skin and ran in different directions.
I suggest that this type of cleo file shouldn't be allowed.
jab link nahi Deni thi tu paragraph likh ne ki zarorat Kya thi Bhai.
(https://i.imgur.com/7NZ8tGZ.gif)
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I just wanna ask @Jonne something.
She's using a mod that can change your skin on the client side.
If it changes the skin on client-side, why is she still on that terrorist skin and running like a fast skin? This is clearly recording of her own screen so Shouldn't she be in a fast skin on her screen/client-side?
(https://i.imgur.com/Y5IvEeV.gif)
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I just wanna ask @Jonne something.
She's using a mod that can change your skin on the client side.
If it changes the skin on client-side, why is she still on that terrorist skin and running like a fast skin? This is clearly recording of her own screen so Shouldn't she be in a fast skin on her screen/client-side?
(https://i.imgur.com/Y5IvEeV.gif)
bas kar bhai
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Oh BOY this thread is SPICY
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Oh BOY this thread is SPICY
Don't bring my brother into this.
The best solutions to all your dumb questions are to remove fast skins from the server and that will be something interesting dumbfuckery or "fair" for both staff and players
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things were under control back in our days {Tenshi's server} as we had strict policy not to use "cleo" mods ever.
someone using this mod back then would get banned by me 100%
but since such mods are allowed now we cannot stop abusers using stuff like this & this is just tip of the iceberg, who knows what all mods she has right now.
she is using smallest skin possible to take less hits + hacks her way into making it a fast skin to gain advantage over everyone.
As a player all i can say is - this must not go unpunished specially seeing after how she is toggling it just like a professional hacker ::)
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"Epic Staff" :P
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things were under control back in our days {Tenshi's server} as we had strict policy not to use "cleo" mods ever.
someone using this mod back then would get banned by me 100%
lol you ban people on "GUT" felling and "EXPERIENCE" ..no proof ..no answerability at all (I know people would go mad but i am just saying) . This server is much better ..atleast admins are transparent and have answerability towards their fellow staff.
In my opinion , This is nothing more than a visual mod(literally a visual mod) .FAST SKINS aren't really fast or they run faster ! They just allow you to turn around faster which creates and illusion of being faster than normal skins .. All skins have unique hitbox..but this dosent mean that slim and smaller skins have smaller hitbox and fat/bigger skins have a larger hitbox . Using smallest/slender skins with this mod dosent really give you much advantage .
What Mia did was quite low on her part being an admin ...Admins here set ideals ! Going this far ..to look professional(killer) is quite unprofessional(admin) . People are just mad because they werent able to exploit this loophole or thought about this earlier ..now everybody will be looking for that mod ..you can expect more Mia versions in Game now. That mod ..dosent really give you any huge unfair advantage ..it just creates illusion.
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Are you fucking kidding me here?
If it was us players we'd be banned even after some seconds of gameplay.
Excuse Me What The Fuck Jonne?
They've been saving 'staff' members from a long time because they're not staff they're friends , But Mive wasn't one so they shuttled his stock.
Fuck this "community based $erver".
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things were under control back in our days {Tenshi's server} as we had strict policy not to use "cleo" mods ever.
someone using this mod back then would get banned by me 100%
In my opinion , This is nothing more than a visual mod(literally a visual mod) .FAST SKINS aren't really fast or they run faster ! They just allow you to turn around faster which creates and illusion of being faster than normal skins .. All skins have unique hitbox..but this dosent mean that slim and smaller skins have smaller hitbox and fat/bigger skins have a larger hitbox . Using smallest/slender skins with this mod dosent really give you much advantage .
This is wrong at so many levels, damn. How come this is coming from a player who has been playing samp for years!?
We all know fast skins don't mean fast speed in walking/running , we all are already talking about the fast turn movements, which are actually an advantage.
Try to do that sharp turn with normal skin , you'll know :)
Also, it is indeed unfair to use small skin with benefits of fast skin added on top. And the skin size does make a huge difference even if yoh call it an "illusion". This is the exact reason why most people play with small and thin skins, you don't see people in A/D gamemode running with clown skins do you?
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things were under control back in our days {Tenshi's server} as we had strict policy not to use "cleo" mods ever.
someone using this mod back then would get banned by me 100%
same here and since when this was allowed????
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things were under control back in our days {Tenshi's server} as we had strict policy not to use "cleo" mods ever.
someone using this mod back then would get banned by me 100%
same here and since when this was allowed????
Since Mia asked Jonne about this mod
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We all know fast skins don't mean fast speed in walking/running , we all are already talking about the fast turn movements, which are actually an advantage.
Try to do that sharp turn with normal skin , you'll know :)
This is a public platform ...no surety that everyone would know the exact difference between two just because you and me know it , i said that in general ... I agree tho its not possible to do sharp turns with normal skins unless you are mia.
All skins have unique hitbox..but this dosent mean that slim and smaller skins have smaller hitbox and fat/bigger skins have a larger hitbox. Using smallest/slender skins with this mod dosent really give you much advantage .
Also, it is indeed unfair to use small skin with benefits of fast skin added on top. And the skin size does make a huge difference even if yoh call it an "illusion". This is the exact reason why most people play with small and thin skins, you don't see people in A/D gamemode running with clown skins do you?
I am not denying the fact that it gives you advantage over other but at a very micro level by just creating illusions of fast movements ..if you play with fast skin it would happen with that too ..but stating " IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE" is questionable itself . If that's was so then jonne wouldn't have allowed it at first . PTP is a skinhit server ..if you shoot the skin you get the damage ..if it were a lag shoot server then i would have certainly agreed with you word by word. Taking about A/D server i have seen most of them playing with Normal skins ..No slender skins ... no slim girls skins ..no fast skins . lets see what jonne has to say over it ?
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so if i had fast skin and i used this mod i would have 2x fast skins
ffs i miss old rules
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so if i had fast skin and i used this mod i would have 2x fast skins
ffs i miss old rules
nope i think this gets disabled with fast skins , else people using it would be getting banned easily.
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Here it is, see the difference.
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PTP is a skinhit server ..if you shoot the skin you get the damage ..if it were a lag shoot server then i would have certainly agreed with you word by word. Taking about A/D server i have seen most of them playing with Normal skins ..No slender skins ... no slim girls skins ..no fast skins . lets see what jonne has to say over it ?
Skinhit or not , hitbox size would stay the same. Idk why you even bring lagshoot vs skinhit here.
Secondly, we have had kings fight with bigger armours , doesn't mean that smaller armours had no advantage, does it? Those players you see with fat skins are good enough to play without small skin advantage but that doesn't mean small skins don't help. And that's not even the point , small skin or not, skins are part of game BUT what is not ok is to have a small skin and then magically add fast skin movements over it.
Ps: It's not about discussing how big or small the advantage is, it is more about how unfair the advantage is using this script.
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Here it is, see the difference.
Imagine uzing a player with such quick movements and turns lmao..that shit is over powered and not be allowed here...
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PTP is a skinhit server ..if you shoot the skin you get the damage ..if it were a lag shoot server then i would have certainly agreed with you word by word. Taking about A/D server i have seen most of them playing with Normal skins ..No slender skins ... no slim girls skins ..no fast skins . lets see what jonne has to say over it ?
Skinhit or not , hitbox size would stay the same. Idk why you even bring lagshoot vs skinhit here.
Secondly, we have had kings fight with bigger armours , doesn't mean that smaller armours had no advantage, does it? Those players you see with fat skins are good enough to play without small skin advantage but that doesn't mean small skins don't help. And that's not even the point , small skin or not, skins are part of game BUT what is not ok is to have a small skin and then magically add fast skin movements over it.
Ps: It's not about discussing how big or small the advantage is, it is more about how unfair the advantage is using this script.
I am bringing lagshoot vs skinhit here just to simplify my argument that - shoot the skin get the damage ..as simple as that ..if slim skins are really so advantageous then they should be allowed in first place ?same goes for fast skins too. There are certain skins that are slim(compared to many) as well as fast then they shouldn't be allowed too . I think just because an admin particularly MIA did that people are mad over it ... even Jonne let it pass twice..even you can use it ..everyone can use it ..most of us will .. this topic is more or less created to see MIA punished .
Again I am not justifying her in any case(i feel its pretty low on her side) ..but i think the mere objective behind this topic is something more than to seek "justice" . What my opinion is.. there shouldn't be much hue and cry over such a petty thing ... There is still no Major advantage in this case..if you feel so go ahead ..you are free to use such mod untill jonne makes any announcement regarding this .
Here it is, see the difference.
Also most of us are vips , who already have too much advantage over non-vips who are crying over Mia case ..that's the biggest Irony . People showing how fast the movements are ..how its so unfair lol but ever thought of non vips playing against vips ? Let me remind you ..this server had made sniper and saw free from last December only ...VIPS still have access to fast skins ..
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Another Question to make you guys think.
Why does she need to pause toggle on then continue to fight? Why she has to toggle it on?..If its a mod, then i think it should be up and running 24/7 dont you think?..Or is it obvs that she toggled it to get a greater advantage over her enemies? Huh? To kill them easly with her slik turns with a normal skin
Dont miss my point
She does that to avoid others noticing it in her own videos. No better explanation than this.
The point is simple, you must have stated this in the beginning Jonne not after one of your staff members gets reported.
I don't have much knowledge about it but as far as I see, it shouldn't be an issue since she has access to fast skins, so what if she turned the normal skin to a fast skin, at the end it's like she is using one of the fast skins. If you are fighting her and saw that she turns fast just deal with her like you deal with a guy using fast skin.
But if the mod changes the size of the skin then it shouldn't be allowed and the player should be punished being a staff member or not, shouldn't matter. That's pretty logical and I know Jonne knows it so no need of all this drama.s
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I want to make a clarification, there's a misunderstanding here.
Throughout the day, some players have installed this mod called "fastped.cs". I didn't know this mod existed until Menace mentioned it when he reported me. He was wrong, this is not the mod I'm using and it has never been approved by Plan B's head administration.
As the video posted by Lance Towers shows, and as some of you checked by yourselves in-game, this mod completely eliminates the turning circle for every skin. As a result, all skins turn even faster than beta skins. For this reason, we should expect to see this mod explicitly banned soon.
I never used this. All I do is use a beta skin on my client, but a regular skin on the server. This means that, "on my screen", I'm using a beta skin and I can move accordingly, but a regular skin is synced for the rest of players. Consequently, the performance is exactly the same as what you'd see in a traditional beta skin set with /vskin.
This was approved by Jonne several months ago. I've read some replies suggesting that this approval was somehow related to admin status. Well, I wasn't even an admin when this was approved.
The only reason why I requested this is because there aren't any female beta skins. I'm not concerned about hitbox sizes. In fact, the skin I use, 192, is among the largest female skins.
To be very honest with you, I wasn't planning to share this mod. But, given that some players are using an "on steroids" version of it (which is unfair and will most likely be banned soon), I prefer to give everyone the legal, approved and fair version of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLr9YMlJIHk
Keep in mind:
- Only VIPs can use it. If you aren't a VIP, you don't have access to beta skins, and you will be banned if you are caught using this mod to gain access to them. Undercover VIP players aren't allowed to use either, as they don't have legitimate access to beta skins when playing undercover.
- President and vice-president can't use it. These classes don't have access to beta skins, and you will be banned if you are caught using this mod to gain access to them as president or vice-president.
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Haha new rules comes from no where.
Everytime you do something we will expect new rules coming . This is shit .
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Haha new rules comes from no where.
Everytime you do something we will expect new rules coming . This is shit .
Also,why does it change anything if someone is a President/Vice-President?
Is it because of the role that they cannot change the skins,or some made-up "advantage"?
I'd sure love to see some interesting skins with their ranks,although indeed,that would slightly spoil the gamemode.Since a clown could be the president too.
But,if every other class can change the skin,why does it matter?
And if I recall well,we were supposed to get some additional skins by now.Especially the vice skins,since there is only one,that of a shop worker.
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She wanted a female beta skin.
So now players pay for vip to access MODs?? An absolutely Pay to win.
Well done**
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disallow this already, I thought you don't tolerate any kind of MODS that change the physic or how samp works, so play the game as it is
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disallow this already, I thought you don't tolerate any kind of MODS that change the physic or how samp works, so play the game as it is
No no no im not here for disallowing mods
Im Here waiting for her ban appeal
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Mia is able to introduce new rules?
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I'm not concerned about hitbox sizes. In fact, the skin I use, 192, is among the largest female skins.
But it's still smaller than the smallest beta skin, therefore it still represents an unfair advantage over other players.
Admin, remove this shity mod from the allowed mods list
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This is first time I see %99 of server agreed on one point.. %01 is Mia and looking like she brainwashed Jonne. No one believes it is just about "replacing skins and just being visual without affecting moving dynamics".
We can see fast turns are so smooth, gives an huge advantage against other players. Especially if we imagine they are sniping with Altus mostly.
I don't know what did happen to "No cleo" rules like we used in the Tenshi's times. It was very simple and easy to enforce rule. Now we need to know and deal each of cleos if it gives advantage or not.
I agree with all of those replies. No matter what, no any single player shouldn't be allowed to use kind of mods. I don't even want to point out it was Staff member who used kind of mod. If you want to be fair; share this mod with everyone here, make a list that which cleo mods we can use to gain advantage against others. So we can talk about "fair play". Right Mia & Altus?
Actually, Jonne is too much focused on scripting server. More than managing the server. He left staff alone, two level 5 admins trying to control on many level 4 admins. But they are not enough to control each of them really. They can't focus on what current level 4 admins doing in server. That's what I see by this issues since Mia became a staff in server. She created many issues with her tricky gameplay. This is bad, not cool.
And eachtime level 5 locking player's report on forum which was about some staff doing something tricky (I can't count how many it has been now), it just went worst now. Now they feel like they can do whatever. This is not managing the server. Avoiding from taking action on "friendly" staff member, avoiding to talk truth bcuz she is your "friend", or acting like it is "okay" just bcuz mod didn't harm you yet; doesn't mean that this server's players got sick of it already and got enough of this tricky, shameless behave against players, acting like "best" and acting like having best knowladge compared over all players in server, just making their egos high..
No thanks, I got enough of it. Being picked in current staff team is shameful thing since you see how tricky they are now. It was not like this before when we had some good level 5s like as Fimpen, Friauf, Tee_Hee (Maybe). They were very affective on selecting new mods based on their behave. That's what happens when you pick the new mods by just checking their "total online times" and forgetting about their tricky silly behaves.
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If you want to be fair; share this mod with everyone here,
I already did. Read my last reply on this topic (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=6237.msg55370#msg55370).
make a list that which cleo mods we can use to gain advantage against others.
There are thousands of mods for GTA SA. It's impossible to evaluate all of them and make a list. If you, or anyone, want to use a mod but you aren't sure about their legality, I'd really recommend discussing it with a head admin first, like I did.
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I want to make a clarification, there's a misunderstanding here.
Throughout the day, some players have installed this mod called "fastped.cs". I didn't know this mod existed until Menace mentioned it when he reported me. He was wrong, this is not the mod I'm using and it has never been approved by Plan B's head administration.
As the video posted by Lance Towers shows, and as some of you checked by yourselves in-game, this mod completely eliminates the turning circle for every skin. As a result, all skins turn even faster than beta skins. For this reason, we should expect to see this mod explicitly banned soon.
I never used this. All I do is use a beta skin on my client, but a regular skin on the server. This means that, "on my screen", I'm using a beta skin and I can move accordingly, but a regular skin is synced for the rest of players. Consequently, the performance is exactly the same as what you'd see in a traditional beta skin set with /vskin.
This was approved by Jonne several months ago. I've read some replies suggesting that this approval was somehow related to admin status. Well, I wasn't even an admin when this was approved.
The only reason why I requested this is because there aren't any female beta skins. I'm not concerned about hitbox sizes. In fact, the skin I use, 192, is among the largest female skins.
To be very honest with you, I wasn't planning to share this mod. But, given that some players are using an "on steroids" version of it (which is unfair and will most likely be banned soon), I prefer to give everyone the legal, approved and fair version of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLr9YMlJIHk
Keep in mind:
- Only VIPs can use it. If you aren't a VIP, you don't have access to beta skins, and you will be banned if you are caught using this mod to gain access to them. Undercover VIP players aren't allowed to use either, as they don't have legitimate access to beta skins when playing undercover.
- President and vice-president can't use it. These classes don't have access to beta skins, and you will be banned if you are caught using this mod to gain access to them as president or vice-president.
I want to make a excuse, there's a misunderstanding here.
Throughout the day, some enemys have installed this mod called "fastped.cs". I already know this mod existed but Menace he reported me. He was wrong, this is not the Cheat I'm using and it has been approved by Mia and Altus Plan Mia's head administration.
As the video posted by Newfag shows, and as some of you checked by yourselves in-game, this mod completely eliminates My enemys. As a result, all my enemys cry even faster than beta Altus. For this reason, we should expect to see this mod explicitly Approved soon.
I always used it. All I do is use a Skin Cheat on my client, with a regular skin on the server. This means that, "I m Better than you", I'm using a secret Cheat and I can, but a regular can´t. its Fair for the rest of players. Consequently, the performance is exactly the same as what you'd see in a traditional Fastped.cs set with /cheat.
This was approved by Mia and Dizzy several Decades ago. I've read some enemys suggesting that this approval was somehow related to admin status. Well,its not true I was an mod when this was approved.
The only reason why I requested this is because there aren't any Lesbian beta skins. I'm not concerned about Bra sizes. In fact, the skin I use, 192, is among the largest Lesbian skins.
To be very honest with you, I wasn't planning to share this mod. But, given that some enemys are using an "A Better" version of it (which is unfair For me . will most likely be banned soon), I prefer to give everyone the legal, Trash and fair version of it:
https://www.Cheat.com/watch?v=tLr9YMlJIHk
Keep in mind:
Only I can use it. If you aren't a Mia, you don't have access to secret cheats, and you will be banned if you are caught using this mod to gain access to hacks. Undercover VIP players aren't allowed to use either, as they don't have legitimate access to my cheats when playing undercover.
President and vice-president can't use it. These classes don't have access to my cheats, and you will be banned if you are caught using this mod to gain access to them as president or vice-president.
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I want to make a clarification, there's a misunderstanding here.
Throughout the day, some players have installed this mod called "fastped.cs". I didn't know this mod existed until Menace mentioned it when he reported me. He was wrong, this is not the mod I'm using and it has never been approved by Plan B's head administration.
As the video posted by Lance Towers shows, and as some of you checked by yourselves in-game, this mod completely eliminates the turning circle for every skin. As a result, all skins turn even faster than beta skins. For this reason, we should expect to see this mod explicitly banned soon.
I never used this. All I do is use a beta skin on my client, but a regular skin on the server. This means that, "on my screen", I'm using a beta skin and I can move accordingly, but a regular skin is synced for the rest of players. Consequently, the performance is exactly the same as what you'd see in a traditional beta skin set with /vskin.
This was approved by Jonne several months ago. I've read some replies suggesting that this approval was somehow related to admin status. Well, I wasn't even an admin when this was approved.
The only reason why I requested this is because there aren't any female beta skins. I'm not concerned about hitbox sizes. In fact, the skin I use, 192, is among the largest female skins.
To be very honest with you, I wasn't planning to share this mod. But, given that some players are using an "on steroids" version of it (which is unfair and will most likely be banned soon), I prefer to give everyone the legal, approved and fair version of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLr9YMlJIHk
Keep in mind:
- Only VIPs can use it. If you aren't a VIP, you don't have access to beta skins, and you will be banned if you are caught using this mod to gain access to them. Undercover VIP players aren't allowed to use either, as they don't have legitimate access to beta skins when playing undercover.
- President and vice-president can't use it. These classes don't have access to beta skins, and you will be banned if you are caught using this mod to gain access to them as president or vice-president.
I want to make a excuse, there's a misunderstanding here.
Throughout the day, some enemys have installed this mod called "fastped.cs". I already know this mod existed but Menace he reported me. He was wrong, this is not the Cheat I'm using and it has been approved by Mia and Altus Plan Mia's head administration.
As the video posted by Newfag shows, and as some of you checked by yourselves in-game, this mod completely eliminates My enemys. As a result, all my enemys cry even faster than beta Altus. For this reason, we should expect to see this mod explicitly Approved soon.
I always used it. All I do is use a Skin Cheat on my client, with a regular skin on the server. This means that, "I m Better than you", I'm using a secret Cheat and I can, but a regular can´t. its Fair for the rest of players. Consequently, the performance is exactly the same as what you'd see in a traditional Fastped.cs set with /cheat.
This was approved by Mia and Dizzy several Decades ago. I've read some enemys suggesting that this approval was somehow related to admin status. Well,its not true I was an mod when this was approved.
The only reason why I requested this is because there aren't any Lesbian beta skins. I'm not concerned about Bra sizes. In fact, the skin I use, 192, is among the largest Lesbian skins.
To be very honest with you, I wasn't planning to share this mod. But, given that some enemys are using an "A Better" version of it (which is unfair For me . will most likely be banned soon), I prefer to give everyone the legal, Trash and fair version of it:
https://www.Cheat.com/watch?v=tLr9YMlJIHk
Keep in mind:
Only I can use it. If you aren't a Mia, you don't have access to secret cheats, and you will be banned if you are caught using this mod to gain access to hacks. Undercover VIP players aren't allowed to use either, as they don't have legitimate access to my cheats when playing undercover.
President and vice-president can't use it. These classes don't have access to my cheats, and you will be banned if you are caught using this mod to gain access to them as president or vice-president.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 im dead
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We get questions about mods and cleo scripts all the time, so this wasn't really an exception. We usually just check the mod, and give a simple yes or no answer. And yes, I agree, ideally, we should have a comprehensive list of all allowed mods available somewhere, so people can just check that list. But that's again another topic that we have to manage and keep up-to-date (and this usually gets forgotten about and outdated quickly).
Now, about this mod in particular (skinchanger.cs), it's mostly a visual mod (it will only change the skin on the client side), which would have the same effect of just replacing the texture. The only difference with replacing a texture, is that here you could also pick a fast skin, while appearing as another skin. At the time, given she already has access to fast skins, I didn't think it would give her any advantages over another player, so I told her it was fine to use it. Maybe a small sidenote to this, as I've seen many people claiming "admin privileges" and that "admins are allowed to hack", she asked this in August 2019, long before she was an admin. If any other player would have asked me this question, he would have gotten the same answer.
And yes, maybe I misjudged the consequences of allowing this mod, seeing the replies here. It seems that many of you don't agree on this decision, so maybe it's better to disallow this mod alltogether (especially if we'll need to set up specific rules in which cases you can and can't use it). But, let me know what you think about this here, should it be allowed or not, and then we'll make a decision on that. Also, we're not going to be punishing retroactively for this, as I gave her permission to use it in the first place. I don't think anyone would like it if I told them it's okay to use a particular mod, then 2 weeks later tell them "You know what, I changed my mind, you're banned"...
About fastped.cs, there's been a lot of misinformation about this, and people now seem to be under the impression that they're free to use it. This mod was also new to me, but judging by Lance's video, it's a lot faster than "normal" fast skins. So this would give you an advantage over other players, and we're not going to allow this. I know there's been a lot of confusion about this, so we're not going to straight up ban people who use or might have used it. When we see people using it, we'll warn them about it first, so they are aware that it's not allowed. Only if they don't remove it then, we'll move on to punishing them.
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Honestly jonne i don't fuckin care if you misjudged, someone will have to pay.
actions must be taken
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@Jonne, if it changes skin on client side, why doesn't it show in this video? Did she get this recording from someone else? Am i missing something?
Also, why would someone want to look all manly on her screen but appear in a girl skin to others? What kind of fantasy is that?
As someone mentioned, that female skin being used is still smaller than the smallest beta skin, why would you allow something like this script AND NOT inform others about it? This is not about Mia or any biasness, this is more about avoiding confusion in the community, please keep the distinctions between good mods and bad mods clear by announcing them OR don't have such distinction at all.
..if slim skins are really so advantageous then they should be allowed in first place ?same goes for fast skins too. There are certain skins that are slim(compared to many) as well as fast then they shouldn't be allowed too .
Bhaiiiii, facepalm. Don't make me type again (
Small skins are not "unfair" advantage over other players, because others can use those skins as well AND it is part of the game! No scripts or bullshit involved.
This is exactly why people debate over removing fast skins from vips ... it is an unfair(kinda) advantage over non vips who can't have fast skins.
If jonne allows everyone to use this cleo than it wouldn't really be an advantage over others since they can have it too. Reread the posts and hopefully the difference will be clear to you.
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@Jonne
we knew that you have good intentions and you are doing everything you can to improve this game .
+ we don't have the right to tell you to do anything about your administrator team .
Also all players here want just the good for this server and community.
@Mia
we don't hate you; Every player here doesn't like the bossy attitude from anyone, wich you do; you did something wrong you could simply ''apologise'' for it because you killed and had an advantage over other players for like almost a year without any player knew about this Mod.
instead you act like i don't give a fuck i have jonne's permission which is bad .
And that's what lead to the mess of this morning where everyone was testing hacks in the server when i saw Ahmed tells you '' you fucked the server Mia thanks '' and you replied ''Np xD'' ,this is not an admin atitude,try to reconsider what you are doing you are representing a team .
Anyway,about Mods ,Jonne you will just create more problems if you allow this mod; the solution for this is to disallow mods even if it gives small advantage and if anyone wanna use a Mod he should create a topic about it,so others will know and you approve it ,you can even create a section for ''Samp Mods'' so Mods topics stay there and this particularly just for mods who doesn't give an advantage .
Have a great day Fellas .
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We get questions about mods and cleo scripts all the time, so this wasn't really an exception. We usually just check the mod, and give a simple yes or no answer. And yes, I agree, ideally, we should have a comprehensive list of all allowed mods available somewhere, so people can just check that list. But that's again another topic that we have to manage and keep up-to-date (and this usually gets forgotten about and outdated quickly).
Now, about this mod in particular (skinchanger.cs), it's mostly a visual mod (it will only change the skin on the client side), which would have the same effect of just replacing the texture. The only difference with replacing a texture, is that here you could also pick a fast skin, while appearing as another skin. At the time, given she already has access to fast skins, I didn't think it would give her any advantages over another player, so I told her it was fine to use it. Maybe a small sidenote to this, as I've seen many people claiming "admin privileges" and that "admins are allowed to hack", she asked this in August 2019, long before she was an admin. If any other player would have asked me this question, he would have gotten the same answer.
And yes, maybe I misjudged the consequences of allowing this mod, seeing the replies here. It seems that many of you don't agree on this decision, so maybe it's better to disallow this mod alltogether (especially if we'll need to set up specific rules in which cases you can and can't use it). But, let me know what you think about this here, should it be allowed or not, and then we'll make a decision on that. Also, we're not going to be punishing retroactively for this, as I gave her permission to use it in the first place. I don't think anyone would like it if I told them it's okay to use a particular mod, then 2 weeks later tell them "You know what, I changed my mind, you're banned"...
About fastped.cs, there's been a lot of misinformation about this, and people now seem to be under the impression that they're free to use it. This mod was also new to me, but judging by Lance's video, it's a lot faster than "normal" fast skins. So this would give you an advantage over other players, and we're not going to allow this. I know there's been a lot of confusion about this, so we're not going to straight up ban people who use or might have used it. When we see people using it, we'll warn them about it first, so they are aware that it's not allowed. Only if they don't remove it then, we'll move on to punishing them.
Hmmm, I understand Jonne. When I already posted the video, I deleted the fastped.cs on my cleo folder. No worries. If you admins wanna check if somebody's using it, you can see how they move so quick when turning left and right.
If some of you guys want to have a female beta fast skin, just install a mod to replace the model of the beta skin to a female skin. It's easy rather than cheating, problem solved.
Also, I suggest that the warning is up to 3 only because it can really effect someone's gameplay. The ban time/duration is 2 months or it'll depend on you, Jonne.
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I want to make a clarification, there's a misunderstanding here.
Throughout the day, some players have installed this mod called "fastped.cs". I didn't know this mod existed until Menace mentioned it when he reported me. He was wrong, this is not the mod I'm using and it has never been approved by Plan B's head administration.
As the video posted by Lance Towers shows, and as some of you checked by yourselves in-game, this mod completely eliminates the turning circle for every skin. As a result, all skins turn even faster than beta skins. For this reason, we should expect to see this mod explicitly banned soon.
I never used this. All I do is use a beta skin on my client, but a regular skin on the server. This means that, "on my screen", I'm using a beta skin and I can move accordingly, but a regular skin is synced for the rest of players. Consequently, the performance is exactly the same as what you'd see in a traditional beta skin set with /vskin.
This was approved by Jonne several months ago. I've read some replies suggesting that this approval was somehow related to admin status. Well, I wasn't even an admin when this was approved.
The only reason why I requested this is because there aren't any female beta skins. I'm not concerned about hitbox sizes. In fact, the skin I use, 192, is among the largest female skins.
To be very honest with you, I wasn't planning to share this mod. But, given that some players are using an "on steroids" version of it (which is unfair and will most likely be banned soon), I prefer to give everyone the legal, approved and fair version of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLr9YMlJIHk
Keep in mind:
- Only VIPs can use it. If you aren't a VIP, you don't have access to beta skins, and you will be banned if you are caught using this mod to gain access to them. Undercover VIP players aren't allowed to use either, as they don't have legitimate access to beta skins when playing undercover.
- President and vice-president can't use it. These classes don't have access to beta skins, and you will be banned if you are caught using this mod to gain access to them as president or vice-president.
I want to make a excuse, there's a misunderstanding here.
Throughout the day, some enemys have installed this mod called "fastped.cs". I already know this mod existed but Menace he reported me. He was wrong, this is not the Cheat I'm using and it has been approved by Mia and Altus Plan Mia's head administration.
As the video posted by Newfag shows, and as some of you checked by yourselves in-game, this mod completely eliminates My enemys. As a result, all my enemys cry even faster than beta Altus. For this reason, we should expect to see this mod explicitly Approved soon.
I always used it. All I do is use a Skin Cheat on my client, with a regular skin on the server. This means that, "I m Better than you", I'm using a secret Cheat and I can, but a regular can´t. its Fair for the rest of players. Consequently, the performance is exactly the same as what you'd see in a traditional Fastped.cs set with /cheat.
This was approved by Mia and Dizzy several Decades ago. I've read some enemys suggesting that this approval was somehow related to admin status. Well,its not true I was an mod when this was approved.
The only reason why I requested this is because there aren't any Lesbian beta skins. I'm not concerned about Bra sizes. In fact, the skin I use, 192, is among the largest Lesbian skins.
To be very honest with you, I wasn't planning to share this mod. But, given that some enemys are using an "A Better" version of it (which is unfair For me . will most likely be banned soon), I prefer to give everyone the legal, Trash and fair version of it:
https://www.Cheat.com/watch?v=tLr9YMlJIHk
Keep in mind:
Only I can use it. If you aren't a Mia, you don't have access to secret cheats, and you will be banned if you are caught using this mod to gain access to hacks. Undercover VIP players aren't allowed to use either, as they don't have legitimate access to my cheats when playing undercover.
President and vice-president can't use it. These classes don't have access to my cheats, and you will be banned if you are caught using this mod to gain access to them as president or vice-president.
Epic :haha:
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Legal Modifications
1.Weapon Textures - Changes the weapon skin, but other players won't be able to see it !
2.Weapon Sounds - Adds new sound to your weapons, but other players won't be able to hear the new sound !
3.Vehicular Sounds - New sounds for Vehicles, but other players won't be able to hear the new sound !
4.Font editing -Edit/Change Font
5.Weapon Scroll Display editing -Weapon scroll
6.Character Textures (Clothes, skin colour, Hair colour) - Changing your character (client sided) color , skin,cloth etc but other players wont be able to detect it/affected by it.
7.Graphical edits that change the appearance of objects but not the opacity or the shape/size, they must stay solid and the same shape. (Trees, Moon, Ground, Walls, Sky, Sand, Water,bushes etc etc) - But we suggest not to use Graphical modifications.
8. Crosshair edits (As long as they don't affect the aiming of a gun and the direction in which the bullet leaves the gun. Due to sync this would make you less hittable and thus unfair.)
9.Radar editing (All this does is change the aerial view through your radar making it easier to distinguish buildings, alleyways, footways, roads etc..) To be fair you could say having this mod gives you a navigational advantage but it is better than the games standard radar and makes the game more enjoyable without changing gameplay much, therefore people should be encouraged to use it.
10.Day night cycle - You can change day night cycle , use timesync etc but you cannot change
weather as it posses some complications .
11. Misc mods for aesthetics- Blood shower mods , neon lights , bullet hole mod , explosion mods ,
fire texture mods , nitro color mods , car stickers /paint job mods etc etc are allowed .
Illegal Modifications
1.Skin mods that affect the size/shape of your character. This will change your hitbox making you harder to hit. This is also called ped editing which is not allowed.
2.Animation edits. These will affect the movement and speed of your character, whether they make you slower or faster they will make the game unbalanced and therefore unfair.
3.Vehicle handling. Will make your vehicle harder/easier to handle and therefore unfair
4.Vehicle models. They will always make your vehicle larger/smaller which can lead to unfair advantages in the event of using a car for cover or driving through areas you would not be able to in the standard vehicle size. (This is a popular used mod and if the model size is not that much different although still slight advantage/disadvantage could be argued the model is still legal)
5.The modification of .dat or .ipf files. These change vehicle handling, character speed, weapon damage, weapon range, weapon magazine capacity etc and lots of other changes. These all, in turn, make the game unbalanced.)
6.Graphical edits that change the opacity of walls. If you can see through walls then you can know where your enemy is while he cannot, this is unfair.
7.Modified versions of the game's original auto-aim system. With the games original auto-aim system opposing players have the advantage of being able to back-fire their aiming reticle onto themselves so they get hit with full damage and without a miss from every shot ( >:) ) removing this makes it harder for players to beat auto-aimers and is removing the game's natural aspects.
8.Weapon Models size. Dramatically increasing the size of weapons especially grenades creates an unfair advantage because a player can become easier to find or in the case of grenades which can be shot away. It will make them easier to shoot away. It will change the direction they travel and will block them and affect where they actually go due to their size. Where a grenade may have gone on the person using normal grenade size could be entirely different on the person's screen using a large grenade size because it cannot maneuver as easily.
9.Laser Mods. They give you an unfair aiming advantage and can make opposing players easier to find/notice where they may have taken you by surprise and buttfucked you quicker than usain bolt stealing a toaster.
10.FPS Limit mods. Limiting the FPS below 25 or beyond 90 (The standard on SAMP) and still having the ability to strafe while shooting will effect people's hitboxes and their sync and therefore unfair.
11.HUD Mods that add a crosshair to the screen (without having to press Aim Button) that shows where you need to aim to hit straight away without having to adjust your aim once you press Aim Button.
12.Mods that allow you to instantly shoot (where you are already aiming with a crosshair added to your HUD) without having to click the aim button. This can seriously unbalance player animations and your characters sync to the server.
13.Mods that allow you to play your game in a First Person Shooter camera style, this can also give you aiming advantages and unbalance your character's sync. This dosent sync with the server however don't use it.
14. Using Crashes.asi is forbidden as it affects your fall damage .
15. Mods that force lags , mods that instantly changes your FPS for a short duration are forbidden.
16. Damage mods - any mods that affects the original damage system in game of any type is forbidden to use .
17. Remove objects Mods- Mods that removes common gta objects like bushes , lamp posts , trees, traffic lights etc etc (these are most common mods used by people with lower PC specs to boost up FPS .)
18. Using mods that lets you sprint faster, longer ..or resets/fasten up the sprint-tired cycle , lets you jump higher , change bodyfat percentage etc are forbidden.
Most common hacks that can deliver you instant Ban.
Wall hacks , ESP box(mod that create a red box around your enemies) , Fly hacks , No recoil , no reload, , Sniper aimbot , enhanced sniper scope mod(gives you more zoom on sniper scope) , super-character MODs(superman , wonderwoman , harry potter etc etc) , auto c-bug , auto slidebug ,spawning objects/ weapons, aimbot , RAM hacks(ramming into players with vehicles) , Teleport hacks , God mod , money hacks , Vehicle heath hacks etc.
Beware!!
Any mods that give you unfair advantage over other players in any way may lead to a Ban . If you are unsure of any mod consult an admin before use .
i tried to categories up few legal and illegal mods for easier understanding(i used internet for reference)..i am not perfect ..i did this best up to my knowledge . Admins can make a list like this to avoid future confusion. Also this list can be updated time to time as i may have skipped few things.
thanks
(for saurabh ! chup bey lode :D )
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To be very honest with you, I wasn't planning to share this mod. But, given that some players are using an "on steroids" version of it (which is unfair and will most likely be banned soon), I prefer to give everyone the legal, approved and fair version of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLr9YMlJIHk
Mia, this mod should be prohibited too. Why? I'll send the video to you in PM.
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What about Addon and sprinthook? @jonne
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Now, about this mod in particular (skinchanger.cs), it's mostly a visual mod (it will only change the skin on the client side), which would have the same effect of just replacing the texture. The only difference with replacing a texture, is that here you could also pick a fast skin, while appearing as another skin. At the time, given she already has access to fast skins, I didn't think it would give her any advantages over another player
Well Not all client sided mods are safe, what if someone is fan of pikachu and wants the pikachu skin mod {in our days it was used by hackers to lower their hitbox due to smallest skin size- worked in lagshoot version} one cannot say its just a visual client sided mod
Jonne allowed it without checking, well i can agree . but Mia knew its advantages over regulars and was selfish in using it as her secret hack being a staff member.
we used to play without cleo's , why is this generation unable to play without any of that shit ???
I hope the server is still "Protect the President" & not "Protect The Mia" ::)
Keep in mind:
Only I can use it. If you aren't a Mia, you don't have access to secret cheats, and you will be banned if you are caught using this mod to gain access to hacks. Undercover VIP players aren't allowed to use either, as they don't have legitimate access to my cheats when playing undercover.
President and vice-president can't use it. These classes don't have access to my cheats, and you will be banned if you are caught using this mod to gain access to them as president or vice-president.
Lol , best reply award goes to you Luca Brasi :D
funny but there's a point here on how selfish one can get, why cannot unregistered guy use it with normal skin instead of fast ? & how will she check if someone is using it or not as it wont show up fast skin anims.
Jonne might add a script to detect this i hope & let Mia on her next mission to ruin server :-\
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To be very honest with you, I wasn't planning to share this mod. But, given that some players are using an "on steroids" version of it (which is unfair and will most likely be banned soon), I prefer to give everyone the legal, approved and fair version of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLr9YMlJIHk
Mia, this mod should be prohibited too. Why? I'll send the video to you in PM.
Guys, look if you have skinchanger.cs, this'll happen.
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I want to make a excuse, there's a misunderstanding here.
Throughout the day, some enemys have installed this mod called "fastped.cs". I already know this mod existed but Menace he reported me. He was wrong, this is not the Cheat I'm using and it has been approved by Mia and Altus Plan Mia's head administration.
As the video posted by Newfag shows, and as some of you checked by yourselves in-game, this mod completely eliminates My enemys. As a result, all my enemys cry even faster than beta Altus. For this reason, we should expect to see this mod explicitly Approved soon.
I always used it. All I do is use a Skin Cheat on my client, with a regular skin on the server. This means that, "I m Better than you", I'm using a secret Cheat and I can, but a regular can´t. its Fair for the rest of players. Consequently, the performance is exactly the same as what you'd see in a traditional Fastped.cs set with /cheat.
This was approved by Mia and Dizzy several Decades ago. I've read some enemys suggesting that this approval was somehow related to admin status. Well,its not true I was an mod when this was approved.
The only reason why I requested this is because there aren't any Lesbian beta skins. I'm not concerned about Bra sizes. In fact, the skin I use, 192, is among the largest Lesbian skins.
To be very honest with you, I wasn't planning to share this mod. But, given that some enemys are using an "A Better" version of it (which is unfair For me . will most likely be banned soon), I prefer to give everyone the legal, Trash and fair version of it:
https://www.Cheat.com/watch?v=tLr9YMlJIHk
Keep in mind:
Only I can use it. If you aren't a Mia, you don't have access to secret cheats, and you will be banned if you are caught using this mod to gain access to hacks. Undercover VIP players aren't allowed to use either, as they don't have legitimate access to my cheats when playing undercover.
President and vice-president can't use it. These classes don't have access to my cheats, and you will be banned if you are caught using this mod to gain access to them as president or vice-president.
Haha good point.
Yes,if this is providing an advantage over the others,since their "normal skins" can spin around like the fast ones,it should be disallowed,since it's ruining the nature of the game.I know that some skins are being patched over the others,like the Catalina skin I use,but I don't know why that happens and for what reason.
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@Bully - Most of em'€s description is super wrong.
I'm talking about the Mod List.
Please guys also shit about Addon.
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@Cobby can you be more specific ? As i can update it ..as per suggestions..and admins can put it at right place . I just tried to motivate admins to make such type of list for reference .
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Come on, guys! What kind of bullying that?!
You should take part in a dialog, not monolog, at least to pretend to successfully troll the person you don't like. Now it looks like you argue with yourselves, mentioning Mia only in the context. I understand that your eyes are covered with hatred, but consider reading the messages of your opponents before posting.
P.S.
But it's still smaller than the smallest beta skin, therefore it still represents an unfair advantage over other players.
Admin, remove this shity mod from the allowed mods list
Logically you are right, but personally I think that the advantage it gives is negligibly small.
Unfortunately, this topic is not a place for the constructive discussion. It kinda starts here (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=6241), I guess.
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Come on, guys! What kind of bullying that?!
I agree some players are going way too harsh and making this all about Mia, but maybe you could ignore them just like how you ignore Mia's secret mod(s)? :)
How about answering some legit questions (or doubts) rather than addressing only the hate messages?
Since she hasn't replied and you mostly likely know about her stuff, how about you start answering these doubts?
@Jonne, if it changes skin on client side, why doesn't it show in this video? Did she get this recording from someone else? Am i missing something?
Also, why would someone want to look all manly on her screen but appear in a girl skin to others? What kind of fantasy is that?
1) Toggle is quite obvious at 00:08 , but why isn't the skin change reflected on her screen (assuming it's her own recording).
2)Why can't she just /vskin to a fast skin, then use skin texture on client side to become female on her screen?
Why does she want it the other way around? I don't understand this obsession of wanting others to see you in female skin while you're using fast male skin on your screen.
3) Why does she even toggle it, specially between fights? If she thought it's all fair and "approved" why would she feel like making it less noticeable? Does keeping it always on has any downside?
Unfortunately, this topic is not a place for the constructive discussion. It kinda starts here (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=6241), I guess.
I think this is the right board and topic to discuss this particular case, this particular mod and clarification from staff. This is a discussion and hence in the right board.
That topic in suggestions board is just a voting to suggest allowing or disallowing the mod.
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the server and staff team is fucked harddddd from the anussss
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the server and staff team is fucked harddddd from the anussss
from dad anus
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but maybe you could ignore them just like how you ignore Mia's secret mod(s)?
I don't think "ignore" is the right term to describe what Altus did:
I also used this mod
;)
Since she hasn't replied and you mostly likely know about her stuff, how about you start answering these doubts?
Sorry, I didn't realize there were legit questions, asked in a respectful manner. I'll answer them gladly.
1) Toggle is quite obvious at 00:08 , but why isn't the skin change reflected on her screen (assuming it's her own recording).
Because I replaced the texture for that beta skin.
I was using skin id 272:
(https://wiki.sa-mp.com/wroot/images2/1/12/Skin_272.png)
But I replaced the textures for skin id 272 for those of skin id 192. As a result, on my screen, skin id 272 looks like this:
(https://wiki.sa-mp.com/wroot/images2/6/62/Skin_192.png)
I think it's a bit confusing when explained, but it's very simple to do. I replaced the files for skin 272 for those of skin 192.
2)Why can't she just /vskin to a fast skin, then use skin texture on client side to become female on her screen?
Why does she want it the other way around? I don't understand this obsession of wanting others to see you in female skin while you're using fast male skin on your screen.
Everybody has a favorite skin. I like to see my favorite skin when I play and I like others to see it too. I'm sorry you don't feel it's important.
And no, I don't see a male beta skin on my screen for the reason I explained on my previous answer.
3) Why does she even toggle it, specially between fights? If she thought it's all fair and "approved" why would she feel like making it less noticeable? Does keeping it always on has any downside?
Watch the video I posted, explaining how skinchanger works. It is necessary to enter a command to set the beta skin. When I spawn, I do it with skin id 192 (not a fast skin). This means that I have to enter the command every time I spawn. I sometimes forget to do it and I only realize when I'm the middle of a fight.
You can't see me enter any command on the video because I use keybind for that.
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I think it's a bit confusing when explained, but it's very simple to do.
Nope, it's clear. Only reason why it was confusing is that you didn't mention replacing skin textures in your post, which made me wonder why would someone want her fav skin visible only on server side while she is using something different skin on client side.
Everybody has a favorite skin. I like to see my favorite skin when I play and I like others to see it too. I'm sorry you don't feel it's important.
I think it is safe to say that majority (if not 90%+) of players find this to be an unimportant reason , if not a stupid one, to mess up how a certain skin should have actually moved like on server side.
- Even if it is not a major advantage, keeping the smaller hitbox argument aside, it still has an affect on other players' aim because of how they would have 'expected' that skin to move like.
- Moreover, players who notice you do this would be curious to achieve something similar and as you can see (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=6239.0), might install something worse(fastped.cs) than what you use(skinchange.cs) or something that isn't allowed at all.
We should not compare this cleo's effect(not comparing advantage here) to a simple client side modification like crosshair change.
So the question is again the same, why would you(or any staff) not share , or discuss, such (fishy)mods here (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=4925.msg49154#msg49154)? That was posted there in 2019 , no one bothered to clarify it since an year now but now we know a player has been using it for months without us being infomed about the leaglity of the same.
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2/@Bully - I understand, but some description is wrong and can lead to misunderstanding.
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what the punish to regular player who use Mods like that?
People always told me that Admins know the rules,and if they break them so we have big problems here.
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what the punish to regular player who use Mods like that?
People always told me that Admins know the rules,and if they break them so we have big problems here.
Normally a ban but normally regulars know the rules because they regularly around.
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what the punish to regular player who use Mods like that?
People always told me that Admins know the rules,and if they break them so we have big problems here.
Normally a ban but normally regulars know the rules because they regularly around.
So Mia will get ban?!
Because admin know what allow or not...
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Normally a ban but normally regulars know the rules because they regularly around.
That's not true, iBen. Nobody has ever been banned on Plan B for using any mods which do not give an unfair advantage, even if they impact the game or anyhow reflect at the screen of the other players.
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I think it is safe to say that majority (if not 90%+) of players find this to be an unimportant reason , if not a stupid one, to mess up how a certain skin should have actually moved like on server side.
If "90%+" of players find their appearance unimportant, then I don't understand why all VIPs aren't using fast skins. I mean, if (almost) nobody cares about appearance, as you say, then there isn't any good reason not to always use a beta skin, considering their competitive advantage.
Even if it is not a major advantage, keeping the smaller hitbox argument aside, it still has an affect on other players' aim because of how they would have 'expected' that skin to move like.
Skin mods were always allowed, even when that resulted in a slightly smaller hitbox. I know I sound very monotonous, but I'm going to mention Fares case again. He installed (on his client) a skin mod that looked like a little anime girl. That skin was noticeably smaller than the model it replaced, but the staff didn't take any action back then because it wasn't small enough. Today, this wouldn't matter, since we have weapon-config (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=5256.0) and whatever happens in the damaged player's client doesn't alter the amount of damage. Back then, it did matter, since it was the player receiving the damage who reported the amount taken.
Moreover, players who notice you do this would be curious to achieve something similar and as you can see, might install something worse(fastped.cs) than what you use(skinchange.cs) or something that isn't allowed at all.
I never mentioned there were other mods beyond skinchanger, it was Menace who brought that infamous name to these forums. I didn't know about its existence.
Jonne made it very clear, one is allowed and the other one is not. If anyone wants to use the legal one to pick their favorite skin without giving up the beta skin advantages, I'm perfectly fine with it. About the illegal one, I think the difference is easily noticeable and Jonne has made it very clear, it isn't allowed and will result in ban after a previous warning.
We should not compare this cleo's effect(not comparing advantage here) to a simple client side modification like crosshair change.
What Altus meant is that other mods that also bring a slight advantage are allowed. Sniper crosshairs with a smaller dot are a good example. I think that the advantage of a small dot compared to the default, especially when sniping at very large distances, is undeniable.
So the question is again the same, why would you(or any staff) not share , or discuss, such (fishy)mods here? That was posted there in 2019 , no one bothered to clarify it since an year now but now we know a player has been using it for months without us being infomed about the leaglity of the same.
Well, I don't think anyone is required to share their mods with the entire community. Most people keep their mods for themselves or, at most, their friends or clan mates. I don't think I did anything atypical in this sense.
If anyone has doubts about the legality of a mod, of course it's an excellent idea to ask on that topic first. But, I insist, nobody is required to share their mods with all the community if they don't want to. Asking Jonne in private is just as valid as using that topic. It's Jonne who makes the rules, so the answer isn't going to be any different.
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Normally a ban but normally regulars know the rules because they regularly around.
That's not true, iBen. Nobody has ever been banned on Plan B for using any mods which do not give an unfair advantage, even if they impact the game or anyhow reflect at the screen of the other players.
I remember some regular was banned because he had "extra sniper zoom" hacks. You know who was he? I think this mod is not better than that since it gives advantge against other players.
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Mia I am not sure if you have really lost your ability to comprehend or you're intentionally trying to give strawman just for the sake of argument. Also, you seem to have taken most of my questions to staff in general, to be pointed only at you in a blaming way, making you repeat stuff that wasn't even the point.
I think it is safe to say that majority (if not 90%+) of players find this to be an unimportant reason , if not a stupid one, to mess up how a certain skin should have actually moved like on server side.
If "90%+" of players find their appearance unimportant, then I don't understand why all VIPs aren't using fast skins. I mean, if (almost) nobody cares about appearance, as you say, then there isn't any good reason not to always use a beta skin, considering their competitive advantage.
People DO care about appearance and skins, that's not even the point. But nobody is so obsessed to try to use a skin mod to get his favorite skin move like how it shouldn't be moving on the server-side. I hope you get it this time.
Even if it is not a major advantage, keeping the smaller hitbox argument aside, it still has an affect on other players' aim because of how they would have 'expected' that skin to move like.
Skin mods were always allowed, even when that resulted in a slightly smaller hitbox.
Okay so where is the announcement? So we assume all skin mods are fair and allowed now?
Why isn't this question about skin mods (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=4925.msg49154#msg49154) adressed yet, it's been an year?
Moreover, players who notice you do this would be curious to achieve something similar and as you can see, might install something worse(fastped.cs) than what you use(skinchange.cs) or something that isn't allowed at all.
I never mentioned there were other mods beyond skinchanger, it was Menace who brought that infamous name to these forums. I didn't know about its existence.
Jonne made it very clear, one is allowed and the other one is not.
I never said it was you who shared those extra mods like fastped.cs. Again, you need to re read.
My point was if you use such unannounced "legal" mods whose effect is noticeable to others, then they might try to get their hands on something similar which might end up in something like people installing something illegal. There's gotta be a clear announcement/discussion when someone is allowed such mods(from the staff or from that someone).
We should not compare this cleo's effect(not comparing advantage here) to a simple client side modification like crosshair change.
What Altus meant is that other mods that also bring a slight advantage are allowed. Sniper crosshairs with a smaller dot are a good example. I think that the advantage of a small dot compared to the default, especially when sniping at very large distances, is undeniable.
I know what Altus meant! But you clearly din't get what i meant. I clearly mentioned that I am not comparing the advantage .
Using your mod , without any discussion or announcement will lead to the afore mentioned bullet points while simply changing a crosshair doesn't have server side effects reflected on others' screen. I don't see any server side effect changing crosshair would have. That is why it is important to discuss or at least inform everyone when such mods are being allowed to someone.
So the question is again the same, why would you(or any staff) not share , or discuss, such (fishy)mods here? That was posted there in 2019 , no one bothered to clarify it since an year now but now we know a player has been using it for months without us being infomed about the leaglity of the same.
Well, I don't think anyone is required to share their mods with the entire community. Most people keep their mods for themselves or, at most, their friends or clan mates. I don't think I did anything atypical in this sense.
I wouldn't expect a player to share his mod that he got approved from staff, and my question wasn't pointed at you as a player. You're part of the staff team, so you should have informed or announced it. If not you, at least Jonne or other staff could have. But as Nikola said in one post, even admins weren't aware of this "approval" you got from Jonne. This is what the concern is. This is not any random mod , majority of players here think this mod is something that should have been discussed or shared about.
Again, this topic isn't just about you as a player, but about staff members(including you) and the clarity that they should provide about mods, specially when dealing with such fishy mods.
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I remember some regular was banned because he had "extra sniper zoom" hacks. You know who was he? I think this mod is not better than that since it gives advantge against other players.
I do remember this case very well. I am not justifying him, his ban was (is) fair, and the mod which increases the magnification of the sniper zoom is clearly a hack; still it's somewhat similar to the custom crosshairs, which are also aimed to give a more precise view on the target.
This is what I meant, Saurabh, since you mentioned me. The modifications, which are not anyhow reflected on the other players' screens or game experience (at least not directly), can be deadly. And vice versa: harmless mods which do not give any advantage can be visible for the others, like ELM with its flashing lights or weapon reload mod with the reloading animations. These harmless mods have been allowed for a very long time, at least since 2017, although there was never a full list of them.
Do not underestimate the common sense. Do not treat people like idiots by default. If someone can burn their house down with an oven, it doesn't mean that you should be disallowed to have one in your house, right? I think that the criterium of the unfair advantage is good and quite clear. You can use any mod of any kind which does not give it, you cannot use anything which does.
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Do not underestimate the common sense. Do not treat people like idiots by default. If someone can burn their house down with an oven, it doesn't mean that you should be disallowed to have one in your house, right?
The point was not about not having a oven coz someone else can burn shit with his own...the point was that when you get such stupid stuff , you (player or staff) either inform others about it or discuss it. None of this would have happened, if there was information like "this skinchanger mod is allowed to be used, don't be surprised" instead of "ohh this player who got reported is using a mod, right....sorry forgot to inform this tyoe of mod is allowed , wasn't it obvious?"
Still no reply here -> link (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=4925.msg49154#msg49154)
ELM mod is stupid for the same reason because it's effect is visible to others and is abnormal, it might not be "deadly" to you but it is a distraction and can encourage other to do same modifications, or even worse. Exactly why it has to be(and i guess it is) made clear if it is allowed or not. This one is stupid+ has arguably a slight advantage.
Dude do you even read?
I think that the criterium of the unfair advantage is good and quite clear. You can use any mod of any kind which does not give it, you cannot use anything which does.
Yeah...no.
Now you're really trying to tell me that everyone here would agree to what level of advantage (if any) a mod gives?
Nope, read all these topics , we already have people having different opinions. Look at topics about sprinthooks and whatnot.
The distinction (or a list) has to be made clear just like how there has been an attempt to make security team duty clear, civ engagement etc.
We can't have gray areas, can't afford them after what you guys let happen with Popcornz (I am sorry to bring this here , but it is still so shameful you guys have no balls to admit your mishandling and to at least apologize to him for handling something that wasn't mentioned anywhere as a rulebreak).
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Idk Why U guys Speaking With This topic
Sorry But Admins Wont Think About Our Votes...
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That's it I'm out.
Adminswin win they are allowed to use hacks.
F*****ng stupid.
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We can't have gray areas, can't afford them after what you guys let happen with Popcornz (I am sorry to bring this here , but it is still so shameful you guys have no balls to admit your mishandling and to at least apologize to him for handling something that wasn't mentioned anywhere as a rulebreak).
Indeed,everything needs to be sorted out,so people would know what to use and what can be reported.
And I'm strongly against ANY types of mods,but,so many people rely on them.Can't you just stick with the normal game,guys?
And how the hell do other servers allow such stuff?Especially this mod that Mia used.
Some inexperienced admin could easily ban you for that.
Or is it that you play nothing but PTP?
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This debate is overstretched already, let me conclude in short
Mia knows the advantage & wants to get away saying it wont give any advantages over others. (If she was fair , she could have played in skin 192 instead of this shitty mod to make it fast skin .
Players like me are just concerned about the after effects of this episode, as i see there will be loss of players if this kind of dictatotship continues.
We moved here just because of tenshi's way of handling things . Plan B was heaven at start and we have smaller Tenshi's getting born here too. They wont apologize from their heart ever & want power in their hands always.
Jonne is a great guy btw but he is afraid to take any action here.
If this mod gives 0.01% advantage just end it & let abusers apologize . If they remain arrogant then demote them.
Btw Mia's last abuse is enough for her demotion , using admin commands for her benefit and that time too she never apologized.
Over to Altus to defend his friend with long essays ::)
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About the mod itself (skinchanger.cs), judging by the comments I've read here and in other topics, I've made a mistake in allowing it. When Mia asked me, I just thought "Sure, she wants to use a fast skin as a female, why not". She already has access to fast skins as a VIP, so I didn't think it would give here any more advantages. Now, I didn't take into account a lot of factors, such as that it might be misleading, her skin shouldn't be moving like that in the first place. Secondly, I didn't take into account the consequences it would have if a non-VIP or a pres/vice would be using it. They don't have access to fast skins, so they would be getting an advantage out of it. That means only some people would be able to use the mod, and we'd have to create rules specifically for when you can/cannot use this mod. If we start having rules for each specific mod, we'll end up with a 20 page rule list, which will only bring more confusion. Another mistake was not informing people that we allowed this mod, I agree that if we allow something, everyone should be aware of it so they can use it themselves as well. So yes, I made a lot of mistakes in this case, and I want to apologise for that.
Now, taking into account these factors, and judging by the responses we got about this mod, we're disallowing this mod. As some people pointed out, it does give an advantage when you use it with a smaller skin than most fast skins and the skin doesn't move as you expect it to move, but I don't think these advantages are very significant. Another reason we're disallowing it, is so we don't have to make specific rules for each mod, so we can give a clear answer. So, from now on, skinchanger.cs is no longer allowed. Again, we're not going to straight up ban people for it, we'll warn them to remove the mod first, so they're aware of this change and have a chance to remove it. Only when they ignore these warnings, we'll move onto punishing people for it. Also, as I said before, we're not going to punish people retroactively for it either, Mia asked me, I allowed it, so I'm not going to punish her for something I allowed.
One other thing, as some people pointed out already, having smaller skins on the client side shouldn't have any effect on hitting them anymore. Since we've introduced the weapon-config, the damage of most weapons (including all bullet weapons), depends on the shooter. So, if you hit their skin in your screen, they will receive that damage.
Now, as I said before, people ask us if mod x or y is allowed all the time, and up until now, we didn't really have a clear process for it. We'd just look into it, and let them know if it's allowed or not. We do have a topic for such questions, but that turned into a mess pretty quickly, with unanswered questions and no clear overview of things. As this situation has pointed out, this isn't working. Only the players who ask will know if a mod is allowed or not, and depending on who they ask, they might get a different answer. So to prevent this from happening in the future, we'll do the following. We'll make a sub-board under the Suggestions section, where you can ask if a certain mod is allowed or not. Every mod will have it's own topic, and once we allow/disallow it, we'll add a tag in the title (for example "[Not allowed]Fastped.cs"). That way, by browsing the board, you'll get a quick and clear overview of which mods are allowed or not. That also allows everyone to give their opinion on why something should be allowed or not allowed, or provide more insights we might not have. This will be the official and only way to ask if a mod is allowed or not (including for admins). If you ask a staff member about a mod, they'll forward you to that section.
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ahahaha what a beautiful thread
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@Jonne, You got played my friend.
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Was waiting for a level 5, or you to conclude. Thanks Jonne.
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I can't understand you Jonne.
on one hand you say that you did mistake, and let me be honest Mia cause that mistake,She don't tell you that this mod give advantage.
So the question why she hide that information from you??
You can trust her again that she won't do it again? and i really want to know that...
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I can't understand you Jonne.
on one hand you say that you did mistake, and let me be honest Mia cause that mistake,She don't tell you that this mod give advantage.
So the question why she hide that information from you??
You can trust her again that she won't do it again? and i really want to know that...
Thats what is the real issue at hand.
Good that mod is gone now. Mia could have gained some respect if she was honest & had apologized and moved on. But as we all know she had advantage on her side all this time (altus/mia/bully will disagree)
Anyways lets leave the final descision on Karma,
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I can't understand you Jonne.
on one hand you say that you did mistake, and let me be honest Mia cause that mistake,She don't tell you that this mod give advantage.
So the question why she hide that information from you??
You can trust her again that she won't do it again? and i really want to know that...
Thats what is the real issue at hand.
Good that mod is gone now. Mia could have gained some respect if she was honest & had apologized and moved on. But as we all know she had advantage on her side all this time (altus/mia/bully will disagree)
Anyways lets leave the final descision on Karma,
??? I told at least 5 (five) times: the "advantage" given by this mod is absolutely impossible to use, compared to the "normal" fast skins. Jonne repeated the same above. I told at least 5 (five) times: no need to believe anyone, go and try it yourself, so you will see. Have you done it? No. However, you keep repeating the same statement over and over again, like a broken record. I realize that we've got a free, democratic forum here and you can basically say what you want, but I do not understand what are you doing it for.
Anyway, yeah, everything is settled, what is done, is done. This is my last comment here regarding this situation, if anybody wants to talk to me about it privately, feel free.
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You keep repeating the same statement over and over again, like a broken record. I realize that we've got a free, democratic forum here and you can basically say what you want, but I do not understand what are you doing it for.
I am writing on behalf of everyone who has ever sat across from you and wondered if there was an end to the stream of words pouring from your mouth. And what meaning do you expect your delusional self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have to us who think and reason? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted brain would have more weight than?
Stop victimizing yourself whenever something dramatic happens to Mia. Hate and Shame was the biggest example of this. You depicted yourself as you were at fault. This is a pity play. There is no to reason defend someone when Mia knew HERSELF the advantages and disadvantages pf this mod. "This Mod was shared so that the viewer could put themselves in my shoes", all I see is that you're admitting it's a ploy to gain sympathy.
Every time you've tried to address drama, you've failed spectacularly. Responding to the drama makes it so much worse. Every time you respond, you do a few things: A) introduce oblivious players to drama they will now look up B) alienate harsh yet supportive critics C) fuel the flames for actual trolls. Stop using such manipulative language in discussions. Do you want to know why players are spreading their "propaganda" is so effective? It's because they have evidence. Screenshots. You say they're out of context, but you never give the context they're supposed to be in. This man writes a whole essay, in the end, the person who is at fault still refuses to apologize!
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shame of you. if i did it i will start with apologized to player and staff members who spend years Managing the server with your acts you destroy the community.before when the head admins were here (Friauf/Fimpen)
nothing of this bullshit will happen because when somthing effect the administrator team it can cause lot problem but since it arrive here and you let it have advantages on players and record it and make fun of players who play clean game.
PS: this message adressed to Mia Altus i respect you but what Mive said is true.
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Sorry, guys, but this is over. You came the day after the fair.
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LMAO he says he’s done but then locks the topic with a smart Ass reply. I’ll keep my input short and sweet.
I should’ve photographed the game chat when you stated,”I thought this was TDM, not, friends not killing other friends.” Like brah, if you don’t like the community, then fucking leave. Seems like all you, and sidekick, do is cause shit. Either intentionally or on purpose. Why go against the grain so much bro? These people and this game have been around WAY longer than you have and everyone has a certain way of playing the game. Respect that and stop getting in people’s way because it’s LITERALLY just causing further regular/veteran player loss.
I don’t know if you’ve seen or realized, but SAMP is coming to its slow death. When it fizzles out, all your kills and game time go ByE bYe. All of your effort gone. Obviously you don’t have many friends to play with so you don’t have that to loose. BUT, there’s a lot of people who have SERIOUS friendships with other players. This community has a huge heart and it’s it’s almost done beating. Mostly everyone that plays these days just chills in game. We’ve either grown up or don’t play weekly to have the same skills we used to. So when you and “robin” come in and just make us respawn out of our fun tea party, you just annoy everyone and add to player loss.
I respect the work and time you’ve given Plan B. I really do and I hope everyone can chill out and admit that you’ve contributed greatly to this game.
I’m asking you, Mia, and the gang to try chillin with villains. Come by civ spawn some time and make peace. We do a lot of fun shit you know. Like I said before, nobody gives a fuck about stats or skill anymore (unless you’re a psycho and need to kill stuff to be sane). Your stats mean nothing (unless you’re putting them on a job application DONT). Quite frankly brah, I just don’t want to play when you and your sidekick are playing. I hate the anxiety when I’m just trying to fuck around in game. Getting shot from behind no matter what class or what I’m doing SUCKS. And I don’t have the time or determination to practice and fight back against someone who plays consistently. I’ve luckily never been bullied, until you and Mia showed up. Call me a puss for not fighting, but I play to relax and do funny SAMP shit with my friends.
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I’m asking you, Mia, and the gang to try chillin with villains. Come by civ spawn some time and make peace. We do a lot of fun shit you know. Like I said before, nobody gives a fuck about stats or skill anymore (unless you’re a psycho and need to kill stuff to be sane). Your stats mean nothing (unless you’re putting them on a job application DONT). Quite frankly brah, I just don’t want to play when you and your sidekick are playing. I hate the anxiety when I’m just trying to fuck around in game. Getting shot from behind no matter what class or what I’m doing SUCKS. And I don’t have the time or determination to practice and fight back against someone who plays consistently. I’ve luckily never been bullied, until you and Mia showed up. Call me a puss for not fighting, but I play to relax and do funny SAMP shit with my friends.
Give this man a medal right fucking now.
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Sorry, guys, but this is over. You came the day after the fair.
NOT YET
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??? I told at least 5 (five) times: the "advantage" given by this mod is absolutely impossible to use, compared to the "normal" fast skins. Jonne repeated the same above. I told at least 5 (five) times: no need to believe anyone, go and try it yourself, so you will see. Have you done it? No. However, you keep repeating the same statement over and over again, like a broken record.
Well Altus , my bad that i thought you may understand basic concept of Sa-Mp , Unlike Old Admins you don't know the core of this game.
Every skin has a Player mesh & that determines the damage{Hitbox} it takes regardless of weapon configs you have here. If you think its just fake {you cannot as Even Jonne can clarify it} , then i challenge you and mia to use only Clown skin ingame now on..
For learning let me demonstrate you the screenshots i've taken of both skins at same position & did overlay to make you understand..
(https://i.imgur.com/wefQmdU.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/sVdMRi2.png)
Hopefully you can see the damage taken will go down with smaller skin & as Mia had access to fast skins - she wanted a small hitbox + fast movements , so here comes the hack or Mod .
You may argue every player with small skin is abusing ?
Every small skin player has slow moves so that levels it.
If Mia wants to play as fast , then use a fast skin regardless of Gender , if she wants to have women skin , then chose a slow skin . Plan B wont be changing rules for Mia {good that new rule to ban use of this is in place now}
Never knew this topic was locked by Altus ??? , Bro you talk day n Night about being fair - Here we can see someone who can go any length to protect his friend by locking down topics ,
You Are Altus_Demens not Kim Jong-un to supress our voices ..
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Hit boxes go smaller with smaller skins,
Even dizzy and Mr.Uhuuuu know that.
But we can already take it that it was an advantage as she had fast skin capability on slow skin , you will be using fast skin on client side but we players will be having slow skin with its matching hitbox not fast skin's one. Definitely an advantage.
forhm going nuts
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EPIC
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I’m asking you, Mia, and the gang to try chillin with villains. Come by civ spawn some time and make peace. We do a lot of fun shit you know. Like I said before, nobody gives a fuck about stats or skill anymore (unless you’re a psycho and need to kill stuff to be sane). Your stats mean nothing (unless you’re putting them on a job application DONT). Quite frankly brah, I just don’t want to play when you and your sidekick are playing. I hate the anxiety when I’m just trying to fuck around in game. Getting shot from behind no matter what class or what I’m doing SUCKS. And I don’t have the time or determination to practice and fight back against someone who plays consistently. I’ve luckily never been bullied, until you and Mia showed up. Call me a puss for not fighting, but I play to relax and do funny SAMP shit with my friends.
Give this man a medal right fucking now.
This is what I say all the time people, what stats do for you here? it won't make you an admin, will it won't give you respect from others, it won't make you famous, you don't get a metal for it, you don't get recognition for it, you don't get allies or mates.
People know me that I have 1k kills and 2.4k deaths, mainly 1. I suck or 2. I live in Australia and data takes awhile to get to the server as I get like over 350 ping. Do I have enemies, no. Am I a dick to everyone, no. Do flam and piss people off, no. Do I say to people that they suck or their shit, no.
This is place where people come together to chill and have fun, that's one of the reason why I made iBen Bus Tours Inc. Thats why I did events back in the days for people who wanted to play but wanted to take a mini break from the game mode. I wanted to block the bridge in a few maps because I wanted to have fun and try new things to make the experience more fun. I've never wanted to have good stats because I didn't want to waste time.
Mia, I know that you reported me for admin abuse long long time ago, I can't remember what year. Look I know it was a mistake however, I didn't know that I was followed. I did find a corner to go in to attend a hack report. It was a mistake and I will take responsibility for the mistake and I hope you can, all we want is integrity and stop passing the buck. People are scared of you know, maybe try to make amends with everyone could the first step of re healing.
I'm happy to chat to you or anyone if you would like advice or anything.
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ive notice they never come to server in the timezone which player are not many (between 4 to 8 ) only some mods and admins are joining the server to solve the problems (Sumit-Carg-Glennn-Air-..) they love only when server is full players and come and ruin everything
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Where are all the admins and mods btw, is your only role to wait for ban appeals and happy birthday topics? You have voices, you have experience, you are mature people please join discussions, state your opinions, let us know what you think, otherwise this looks like a witchhunt. Jonne and Carg seem to be the only admins here
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My opinion is simple.
The mod gave some small advantage, I don't really consider the hitbox advantage because its really non existant, she was using a default skin on which you can easily determine the hitbox mesh. On the other hand the beta skins features do give some advantage which no one really can take in account, if they didnt know mia was using this mod.
People were first complaining about the advantages, Jonne came and told you all he made a mistake and apologised. Then suddenly its not about the advantages, but about Mia not telling Jonne about the advantages.
I can simply not request something to be done in such case, since I cannot prove wether Mia's intentions were to misinform Jonne about the advantages or not. Jonne knows enough to determine wether this mod gives advantage or not. He thought just because Mia had access to beta skins it won't be a problem to gave her green card. Jonne understood his mistake and apologised and proceeded with implementing appropriate changes.
So I can't really understand what you want to achieve from an already resolved problem?
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Where are all the admins and mods btw, is your only role to wait for ban appeals and happy birthday topics? You have voices, you have experience, you are mature people please join discussions, state your opinions, let us know what you think, otherwise this looks like a witchhunt.
The mod gave some small advantage, I don't really consider the hitbox advantage because its really non existant, she was using a default skin on which you can easily determine the hitbox mesh. On the other hand the beta skins features do give some advantage which no one really can take in account, if they didnt know mia was using this mod.
People were first complaining about the advantages, Jonne came and told you all he made a mistake and apologised. Then suddenly its not about the advantages, but about Mia not telling Jonne about the advantages.
I can simply not request something to be done in such case, since I cannot prove wether Mia's intentions were to misinform Jonne about the advantages or not. Jonne knows enough to determine wether this mod gives advantage or not. He thought just because Mia had access to beta skins it won't be a problem to gave her green card. Jonne understood his mistake and apologised and proceeded with implementing appropriate changes.
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Demote. Or ban. Or encourage players installing various, similar mods with advantage.
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Where are all the admins and mods btw, is your only role to wait for ban appeals and happy birthday topics? You have voices, you have experience, you are mature people please join discussions, state your opinions, let us know what you think, otherwise this looks like a witchhunt.
The mod gave some small advantage, I don't really consider the hitbox advantage because its really non existant, she was using a default skin on which you can easily determine the hitbox mesh. On the other hand the beta skins features do give some advantage which no one really can take in account, if they didnt know mia was using this mod.
People were first complaining about the advantages, Jonne came and told you all he made a mistake and apologised. Then suddenly its not about the advantages, but about Mia not telling Jonne about the advantages.
I can simply not request something to be done in such case, since I cannot prove wether Mia's intentions were to misinform Jonne about the advantages or not. Jonne knows enough to determine wether this mod gives advantage or not. He thought just because Mia had access to beta skins it won't be a problem to gave her green card. Jonne understood his mistake and apologised and proceeded with implementing appropriate changes.
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Thank you, I was not able to see his post before.
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Carg and skittles, that's a very wrong generalisation here that all players here "suddenly" switched the discussion from just "mod advantage" to "Mia's approval from Jonne and her intentions" .
I won't speak for others, but I have always considered this topic , as the title suggests, a topic to discuss this case as a whole, which includes the Mod discussion, Mia's/Jonne's actions and Staff's responsibility towards clearing out mod related rules to the players. Jonne concluded his reply, and that answered almost all parts imo, but if some people still want to express on Mia's actions then I don't think it should be instantly tagged as hatred or 'changing the topic to point out someone' , which is what I assume carg is trying to imply.
I can see some people want to target them for personal reasons but even if they do, I don't think they should be ignored or discouraged to talk about it as long as they are adding something to the discussion.
I am staisified with what Jonne's answer and proposal, and consider it unfair to punish someone for using a mod he/she was allowed to use by a staff. However I do feel that being an admin you gotta be more careful and defer from such unannounced shady mods or anything that sets bad example and makes people question staff's fairness.
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Carg and skittles, that's a very wrong generalisation here that all players here "suddenly" switched the discussion from just "mod advantage" to "Mia's approval from Jonne and her intentions" .
I won't speak for others, but I have always considered this topic , as the title suggests, a topic to discuss this case as a whole, which includes the Mod discussion, Mia's/Jonne's actions and Staff's responsibility towards clearing out mod related rules to the players. Jonne concluded his reply, and that answered almost all parts imo, but if some people still want to express on Mia's actions then I don't think it should be instantly tagged as hatred or 'changing the topic to point out someone' , which is what I assume carg is trying to imply.
I can see some people want to target them for personal reasons but even if they do, I don't think they should be ignored or discouraged to talk about it as long as they are adding something to the discussion.
Well it does seem like it is like that. I don't say it's personal, tho I do understand those who make it personal. When the thing with popcornz happened, I made it clear to Jonne that I no longer trust Mia as a staff member, because the things she did there were just wrong. But right now, the things that happened cannot be categorized as her fault, at least not the things considering the mod.
I am staisified with what Jonne's answer and proposal, and consider it unfair to punish someone for using a mod he/she was allowed to use by a staff. However I do feel that being an admin you gotta be more careful and defer from such unannounced shady mods or anything that sets bad example and makes people question staff's fairness.
Yes, I as well as everyone else didn't get notified about the allowance of this mod. I as well as everyone else think it should've been announced clearly. And this is the change Jonne brought, now every mod that is not mentioned in any of those topics should be considered illegal untill it is made a request to use it.
None of you have any right to bully jonne about the mistakes he did. He's spent so much time and money on this server, and you all come here and play for free. He even freely promoted everyone that was VIP on the old server to VIP here without any penny comming in his pocket.
I could tell you, having to deal with some edgy kids comming here and insulting you because you were given power changes people. This is the reason I became such asshole towards many of the players. I simply cannot ignore those players because I am PTP admin and I have to deal with all the problems the server might cause to them. We have many systems and when there are many players online its expected some of those systems to lead to unexpected results. Do you really think every staff member right now is something else than a human being? We do mistakes lol. Every day I get less and less interest in having to do my admin duties. It just gets to the point where I am ready to quit the server right away and never come back.
Good luck with trying make something out of this topic. The matter of this topic was already resolved. If you don't like how it was resolved you can either suggest some change in the suggestions section, or take the easy way out and leave the server because you don't have the balls to stay and change the wrongs.
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If you don't like how it was resolved you can either suggest some change in the suggestions section, or take the easy way out and leave the server because you don't have the balls to stay and change the wrongs.
We actually sent a letter to level 5s and Jonne about player's concerns and some suggestions on how to improve things signed by 60+ players, it was during the Popcorn thing and nothing came of it. If that wasn't taken seriously, what's the point.
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If you don't like how it was resolved you can either suggest some change in the suggestions section, or take the easy way out and leave the server because you don't have the balls to stay and change the wrongs.
We actually sent a letter to level 5s and Jonne about player's concerns and some suggestions on how to improve things signed by 60+ players, it was during the Popcorn thing and nothing came of it. If that wasn't taken seriously, what's the point.
Well you didn't send it to me so I cannot answer your question.
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If you don't like how it was resolved you can either suggest some change in the suggestions section, or take the easy way out and leave the server because you don't have the balls to stay and change the wrongs.
We actually sent a letter to level 5s and Jonne about player's concerns and some suggestions on how to improve things signed by 60+ players, it was during the Popcorn thing and nothing came of it. If that wasn't taken seriously, what's the point.
I think it just gone in the dust.. Maybe Jonne didn't tell to admins about that letter. But anyway, let's back on topic: "Epic Staff".
Topis is about "Epic Staff". Which is about Staff is being tricky with the silly behaves. We pointing our fingers to the Mia. Not her mods or not her friend Altus covering her ass all the time. I wanted to admins unlock here because we didn't get some point for Mia using silly mods.
This mod gives advantage, this is proven. Even it's not a huge advantage, she used to play with this mod and gained advantage for a long time with that tricks.
I don't blame Jonne for approving her mod to use in server long ago. Because she didn't explain him about the mod well or what was her purpose on toggling mod on/off ingame with the real trick of little skin hitbox + fast skin power.
She just told Jonne about it is skin changer for client mod. If I was Jonne, I would do the same. How would I know? But we can't blame Jonne or another person for allowing this mod.
I blame Mia & Altus for using this mod for a long time with the tricky gameplay giving advantage against PTP community players on purpose without letting everyone know about it. Kept it secretly for A YEAR. Maybe more than year now? This is not fair. They should get punished, especially Mia for making PTP Staff rep at lowest now.
I don't agree with Jonne by saying that "We can't punish Mia for the thing that I allowed long time ago. It was my mistake by allowing it at first time."
No Jonne, that was not your mistake. That was all admins mistake by taking them to staff team as a silly tricky behave still trying to gain advantage against players. What's purpose of being stats whore with silly game mods instead of playing game fresh version and doing admin duty without caring Kills/Death ratio?
This is the main problem. We are not voting to allow or disallow that tricky silly mod here. It is disallowed by whole community already. But we are still after to get some justice for that silly behave of Staff member Mia lost trust as a staff, gained advantage against whole server and kept it secret with his friend Altus until some PTP player found out she used that fast skin thingy. That's the problem we gotta solve.
Whole community got tricked. Not you Jonne. We respect you, but this mistake is not by you. Real mistake is she is not getting punishment.
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And what punishment do you suggest she must receive?
And then on what reason?
And then how are you going to prove it?
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Jonne didn't even use the mod but he already apologized for allowing that and he admitted that he made mistake thats why we should accept and respect that and im sorry for insults i went too mad, but what really matter is mia, she didnt even say "sorry" just look what you done, people now are suggesting to remove fast skins and other silly staffs, just for fuck sake apologize at least for jonne that will be enough for me and for others i guess.
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It is no longer allowed, non of this was Mia’s fault. It was all Jonne’s, and he did disallow it and apologized for the entire community, you can’t demand anything else to be done!
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Jonne didn't even use the mod but he already apologized for allowing that and he admitted that he made mistake thats why we should accept and respect that and im sorry for insults i went too mad, but what really matter is mia, she didnt even say "sorry" just look what you done, people now are suggesting to remove fast skins and other silly staffs, just for fuck sake apologize at least for jonne that will be enough for me and for others i guess.
Why don’t you start and apologize for Aimboting ?
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I can't understand you Jonne.
on one hand you say that you did mistake, and let me be honest Mia cause that mistake,She don't tell you that this mod give advantage.
So the question why she hide that information from you??
You can trust her again that she won't do it again? and i really want to know that...
Thats what is the real issue at hand.
Good that mod is gone now. Mia could have gained some respect if she was honest & had apologized and moved on. But as we all know she had advantage on her side all this time (altus/mia/bully will disagree)
Anyways lets leave the final descision on Karma,
I have already said enough...its useless to discuss it further unless you have a lot of time digging graves and write long ass paragraphs.
Most of admins have more of less same opinion which aligns my words. This wasn't such a big deal to the amount of people making hue and cry . people writing longass paragraphs to prove mia guilty and all they wanted to see her punished .
Mod is forbidden now !! Mia cant be punished on basis of retrospective actions . Headadmin apologised !!
All i want to say in end.. come in game and lets protect the president for real xD Less talking more shooting is preferred.
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Jonne didn't even use the mod but he already apologized for allowing that and he admitted that he made mistake thats why we should accept and respect that and im sorry for insults i went too mad, but what really matter is mia, she didnt even say "sorry" just look what you done, people now are suggesting to remove fast skins and other silly staffs, just for fuck sake apologize at least for jonne that will be enough for me and for others i guess.
Why don’t you start and apologize for Aimboting ?
No
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This aged so well!
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Wews, this made me laugh hard. ::)
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lmao
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LMAO! This is gold and super relatable.
Upper levels won't care though. This is not a democracy or "community based" server anymore. Its the same thing Tenshi's game turned into. "I like my friends and will only care for what they do or say."
Or even better "Most of the community has a problem with one person, but I'm going to act blind. Even when there is rule or legitimate code broken."
What makes people happy? Sticking up for what your regulars believe in? Or sticking up for one person that has not done anything "actually" wrong?
I believe that this is simaliar to the "Lacerta (Jewhunter) Issue". In the context that he wasn't doing anything "wrong" but it made players feel unfair and mad. Although, nothing got done because he was a close friend and there was nothing anyone could say about it.
Pride is huge, but facts and peoples' typed opinions are visual evidence.
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nucb bury me plz!
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Upper levels won't care though. This is not a democracy or "community based" server anymore. Its the same thing Tenshi's game turned into. "I like my friends and will only care for what they do or say."
Or even better "Most of the community has a problem with one person, but I'm going to act blind. Even when there is rule or legitimate code broken."
I don't understand how you can say that if you've read this topic. One member of the community had a problem and other members of the community also agreed with it. The upper levels, who apparently don't care, then discussed the problem and come to the conclusion of agreeing with the community and no longer allowing the mod. How on earth is this not a community based decision?
I can't speak for the rest of the admins but I am not friends with the majority of the staff team. I simply interact with them in order to try and keep the server in a healthy state, I don't ask them how their day was or what their favourite food is, I simply don't care. The image of admins sitting around a high table, stroking each other's egos and giving each other handjobs is completely and utterly wrong. So no, it's not like Tenshi's server.
I believe that this is simaliar to the "Lacerta (Jewhunter) Issue". In the context that he wasn't doing anything "wrong" but it made players feel unfair and mad. Although, nothing got done because he was a close friend and there was nothing anyone could say about it.
This situation is very different to what Lacerta was doing. Mia used a mod that was approved by Jonne, Lacerta abused his position as an admin in order to put himself at an advantage or others at a disadvantage. Also, I can assure you that Jonne and Mia are not close friends.
Where are all the admins and mods btw, is your only role to wait for ban appeals and happy birthday topics? You have voices, you have experience, you are mature people please join discussions, state your opinions, let us know what you think, otherwise this looks like a witchhunt. Jonne and Carg seem to be the only admins here
My personal opinion was discussed with Jonne and Nikola, it was then incorporated into Jonne's reply. I don't think there's any need to write my personal opinion if it has already been said in Jonne's official response to this situation.
We actually sent a letter to level 5s and Jonne about player's concerns and some suggestions on how to improve things signed by 60+ players, it was during the Popcorn thing and nothing came of it. If that wasn't taken seriously, what's the point.
I read the letter and read Jonne's response to every point made in that letter. I felt that every question was answered adequately and that it was actually taken quite seriously. The answers to your question not aligning to your expectations does not mean it was not taken seriously. I think you should also include that in those 60+ players, player's names were spelt incorrectly, some names were repeated and some players were added there without their consent, we don't want to be fooling the community. I think this speaks volumes about the quality of the letter.
If your goal now is to make Mia apologise for her actions, I wish you the best of luck with that.
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Lol That's epic , i hope they take it in a positive way & not abusing/banning members on personal issues.
Alright , we all gave a chance for Mia to apologize & correct some issues.
Instead She went the opposite way & hence we as normal members gotta move on.
Even the last time she didn't apologize for admin abusing for Admin commands to drop & killing a player.
Respect for Mia & Altus Won't be the same as before
As the popular Quote goes :
I’m a true believer in karma. You get what you give, whether it’s bad or good.
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I think after the fast and maybe harsh punishments of Matt, Mive which are totally justified, people expected consistency and fairness from Jonne instead we got literally nothing, oh wait, a fucking rule. This will likely continue, we will see it overflow into other demotion in the future, youll see
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Hahaha, an epic creation.
I'm not really sure what's supposed to happen now,according to the dissatisfied people,either.
Maybe they're expecting Mia to be demoted and banned,which most likely will not happen.
Sadly,you can't vote a mod out,so, keep searching for more of her offenses and expect a damned miracle of getting one at least,now that she's been uncovered and most likely will be playing more calmly and abusing certain things in a more concealed way.
You got an apology from the head admin/owner, none from a guilty self-satisfied mod, keep going.
That specific mod was banned, the hated mod was not demoted,keep playing.
The mods switch will likely happen eventually,she might get the sack then,if that bothers you so much.
If you don't like the mods being handpicked according to certain criteria,make a suggestion to also include the player votes in the mods choosing process.
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She's admin tho.
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Hahaha, an epic creation.
I'm not really sure what's supposed to happen now,according to the dissatisfied people,either.
Maybe they're expecting Mia to be demoted and banned,which most likely will not happen.
Sadly,you can't vote a mod out,so, keep searching for more of her offenses and expect a damned miracle of getting one at least,now that she's been uncovered and most likely will be playing more calmly and abusing certain things in a more concealed way.
You got an apology from the head admin/owner, none from a guilty self-satisfied mod, keep going.
That specific mod was banned, the hated mod was not demoted,keep playing.
The mods switch will likely happen eventually,she might get the sack then,if that bothers you so much.
If you don't like the mods being handpicked according to certain criteria,make a suggestion to also include the player votes in the mods choosing process.
I don't think anyone cares what the punishment is, it's all on Jonne, it could just be loss of trust. The issue is that the abuses were never acknowledged by anyone
With popcorn, it was blamed on the rules not being good enough
With the car surf update, it was blamed on the non perfect updated script
With the skinchanger, the scapegoat was Jonne for trusting his admin
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this aged well.
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Epic Staff
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EPIC STAFF!
EPIC STAFF
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• No hacking / cheating
- It is not allowed to have any kind of programs, modifications or scripts that give you an advantage over other players. Client sided mods that do not give you or any other player an advantage are allowed.
>allows Sprinthook
>allows addon
>allows aimboters to play
Oh the irony :D staff reaching new lower lows
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• No hacking / cheating
- It is not allowed to have any kind of programs, modifications or scripts that give you an advantage over other players. Client sided mods that do not give you or any other player an advantage are allowed.
>allows Sprinthook
>allows addon
>allows aimboters to play
Oh the irony :D staff reaching new lower lows
You're right, and you wouldn't be here if you hadn't been caught, so I guess it's players and mods that reach low, isn't that interesting. But admins can start by removing those 3 mods and on. They aren't getting paid either to put so much time into this
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I got caught doing absolutely nothing wrong though :) it’s just an example of stupid rules in this place that allows hacks and have the audacity to call me a cheater for changing my ping. Just disallow all of this shit
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I need to find this ping mod though gonna ask my boy Rage for it >:(
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Useful links:
- fakeping.cs discussion (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=6267.15)
- SAMP addon discussion (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=6769.0)
- sprinthook.asi discussion (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=6260.0)
This concludes the shitshow. If you badly need to vent your feelings, you may start another topic about how much you hate me and I won't touch it.