Plan B

General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Srex_Zangetsu on April 16, 2019, 01:28:22 pm

Title: Message to admins
Post by: Srex_Zangetsu on April 16, 2019, 01:28:22 pm
https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=5217.0
Well,I've put up this poll^ sometime ago,and no admins replied.Well,can anything there be done?We do have some things voted for,and the ones not wanting anything consist only one third of all votes,although not many people voted.Do we wait more?
So,expecting an answer soon,so I would know if you'll be implementing some things I listed.
Looking forward to your swift response.
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: Chetan on April 16, 2019, 02:08:19 pm
I guess you'd need to wait more.
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: Srex_Zangetsu on April 17, 2019, 02:11:04 pm
How much more?Can you notify them,if they haven't checked it? :)
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: Carg on April 17, 2019, 02:51:35 pm
How much more?Can you notify them,if they haven't checked it? :)
Stop talking in plural. I have checked it and what? Maybe I don't like it, but do I have a word? Nope I don't, it's what Jonne says. So speak directly to Jonne.
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: Srex_Zangetsu on April 17, 2019, 02:57:23 pm
Well,what if I want to talk in plural?I thought you mods had a say in it,but obviously not.Hmph.
Well,you ought to notify him,that's what this post is about.If you don't like something,vote against it.But also let Jonne know about the poll and that it has quorum to have some of its content implemented into the server.
Of course,if that stuff can be done,naturally.
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: Carg on April 17, 2019, 03:22:48 pm
He's checking the forums everyday, I don't know why he doesn't communicate with the players, I don't like it but I can't change it, I don't know if he even communicates with the other admins, the only times I've been communicating with him were when  I started the conversation. I personally think he should put more time into conversations concerning the server future, not just deciding which should be added or not. He'd be surprised how people could change his opinion there. I feel like many of the players are not taking part in the suggestion conversations because it feels like Jonne doesn't care what they are going to say there. I felt this way before, I still feel this way.
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: KarBon on April 17, 2019, 03:26:22 pm
People do not take part of the suggestion conversations because there are usually long ass paragraphs about things that represent "huge" problems, lol. On top of that, Srex is annoying as hell
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: Srex_Zangetsu on April 17, 2019, 03:49:52 pm
He's checking the forums everyday, I don't know why he doesn't communicate with the players, I don't like it but I can't change it, I don't know if he even communicates with the other admins, the only times I've been communicating with him were when  I started the conversation. I personally think he should put more time into conversations concerning the server future, not just deciding which should be added or not. He'd be surprised how people could change his opinion there. I feel like many of the players are not taking part in the suggestion conversations because it feels like Jonne doesn't care what they are going to say there. I felt this way before, I still feel this way.
Hmm interesting.At first you seemed rude,but you are actually willing to do something,although you cannot. :)
Well,we will have to somehow "force" him to check everything out more often.Or at least to let you guys actually do something with programming,if you possess those skills.

As for you,Karbon,you are annoying as hell too,but that isn't the matter here.
After all,considering the suggestions,yes,I may be annoying,but at least I put up polls,which are easier to check out than long paragraphs.I also try to explain every disputable suggestion below.So,people can just vote,even without checking the comments.But,if they require additional explanations and votes why yes/no,then they ought to scroll down.
I think the server should have some sort of lobby,on entrance.There,the players would be redirected to voting,if you guys intend to ask everyone online.Like,that could last for one day.All the players present during a day would have to quote and then they'd be let to play.

Alright then,if pm's are available here (never tried them),I'll try to contact him.But,since you mods have contact with him,it is easier for you to tell him,that is the reason why I required your assistance.
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: Carg on April 17, 2019, 04:11:17 pm
He's checking the forums everyday, I don't know why he doesn't communicate with the players, I don't like it but I can't change it, I don't know if he even communicates with the other admins, the only times I've been communicating with him were when  I started the conversation. I personally think he should put more time into conversations concerning the server future, not just deciding which should be added or not. He'd be surprised how people could change his opinion there. I feel like many of the players are not taking part in the suggestion conversations because it feels like Jonne doesn't care what they are going to say there. I felt this way before, I still feel this way.
Hmm interesting.At first you seemed rude,but you are actually willing to do something,although you cannot. :)
Well,we will have to somehow "force" him to check everything out more often.Or at least to let you guys actually do something with programming,if you possess those skills.

As for you,Karbon,you are annoying as hell too,but that isn't the matter here.
After all,considering the suggestions,yes,I may be annoying,but at least I put up polls,which are easier to check out than long paragraphs.I also try to explain every disputable suggestion below.So,people can just vote,even without checking the comments.But,if they require additional explanations and votes why yes/no,then they ought to scroll down.
I think the server should have some sort of lobby,on entrance.There,the players would be redirected to voting,if you guys intend to ask everyone online.Like,that could last for one day.All the players present during a day would have to quote and then they'd be let to play.

Alright then,if pm's are available here (never tried them),I'll try to contact him.But,since you mods have contact with him,it is easier for you to tell him,that is the reason why I required your assistance.
I have as much contacts, with him, as you have. A little bit more, but still I can assure you he's checking everything, just doesn't taking part in the conversations and this is what should be changed.
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: EnGin on April 17, 2019, 06:47:45 pm
Contact Jonne over IRC
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: Tuco on April 17, 2019, 08:16:37 pm
You have to redefine your way of posting suggestions.


For example, if you give the post the title "Suggestion number #35, by Srex", I have little to zero desire to open it, let alone the polls...

I have to agree with Karbon.
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: iDanz0r on April 17, 2019, 10:41:39 pm
Contact jonne personally if you aren't getting any replies. Jonne responds quickly over forum pm or in irc.
You have to redefine your way of posting suggestions.


For example, if you give the post the title "Suggestion number #35, by Srex", I have little to zero desire to open it, let alone the polls...
And yes try to keep suggestions short and to the point if you can. Use meaningful topic names, its more attractive.
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: Ahsoka_Tano on April 17, 2019, 11:30:33 pm
IF you had vip in-game
Youd contact with him easily

One of the advantages of vip players.
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: Srex_Zangetsu on April 18, 2019, 12:16:57 pm
Sorry,but that's kinda crap.Why do I have to advertise my suggestions just so someone would be merciful to check my post out?Admins are OBLIGED to check them out,and the members should take part in them too.The name matters not - the content does.And you can notice that my suggestions are not long,but rather packed up into polls so you can understand most of the stuff with little to no effort.
And that bullshit about VIP...what were you guys doing to the server while the VIPs had everything?Do you think that the server can keep living on with such benefits that actually help no one but donators?This server should be more oriented towards regular players than it is.Why the fuck do I need VIP to contact the main admin here while I'm already a forum and site member?That's just plain retarded.
And no,I don't have that IRC chat or whatever it is,nor I intend to make it too.I already am here,on Discord too.
I comprehend that Jonne is less interested in the server now that he doesn't depend on donations,but he should at least take care of important matter,or give more authority to mods,so they can take care of stuff while he's preoccupied.
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: Quido on April 18, 2019, 01:32:01 pm
Sorry,but that's kinda crap.Why do I have to advertise my suggestions just so someone would be merciful to check my post out?Admins are OBLIGED to check them out,and the members should take part in them too.The name matters not - the content does.And you can notice that my suggestions are not long,but rather packed up into polls so you can understand most of the stuff with little to no effort.

You should advertise your suggestions, people won't click on your post unless they feel it's worth their time. If they are not interested by the title, they won't read it. Admins are not obliged to read suggestions, although we do, and can comment just as any other player in the server can about it.

Speaking about your suggestions in general, some of them are already rejected suggestions and some of them are labelled 'To be added' from previous suggestions, you should check before posting new ones. Some other suggestions are more related to role play, which is not the aim of PlanB and I don't see it going in that direction. Another group of suggestions are for minor changes that don't affect how the gamemode is played such as: 'Put stunt points on certain places on maps'. This only encourages people to not take part in the gamemode and therefore cannot be considered in the current situation.

It is also important to mention that there are a lot of suggestions currently being worked on and tested so they take priority over new suggestions unless it is a bug fix or severely harmful to the gamemode. 

 
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: Srex_Zangetsu on April 18, 2019, 02:54:30 pm
Yep,I expect you to comment as regular players,of course.
And I think you should be obliged to read them.It's,like,a duty of yours to review potentially beneficial stuff.
Also,you shouldn't say the thing about other uggestions lightly.Do you all really think it's easy to remember all the suggestions someone has already posted?Can you do it?I doubt that.Also,I do not put my suggestions on paper in advance,so I cannot look back on previous suggestions made by others.
Also,you are also one of those people that reject the significance of roleplay here.Roleplay isn't only about living life in GTA SA the way you want it,but it is following the given roles.So,the server would be much better if roleplay was more involved.Like,forbidding cops to shoot civilians without a reason,or them starting it.It may not be easy to do,but it is not impossible.Same goes for proclaiming some civilians allied or hostile,by president,let's say.
Additionally,"putting stuntpoints" encourages the creativity and dinamic of the game,it doesn't at all lead into not following the game mode.Do you really think a terrorist would be more interested in doing stunts with a bike rather than chasing the president?If someone does it as a civilian,that's normal,and it is your duty to somehow make them be more included in the game mode.
Hmm I suppose that it's good that some improvements are currently being worked on.Can you elaborate more on what's upcoming?
And I urge you all to make a lists of doable suggestions,and implement them.If people support them,and they in no way make the game worse,they should be added.You admins could check my suggestions #4 and #5,and see what can be brought in.Some things are extremely important,in my opinion,while some are more cosmetical.
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: Carg on April 18, 2019, 03:53:52 pm
It's simple you could put some words of your suggestion in the search bar and see if there are matches.
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: pRiMoZ on April 18, 2019, 04:33:11 pm
You are bitching if we don't post in your suggestions...
You are bitching if we disagree on your suggestions...
You are bitching at other people's suggestions...
You are bitching 24/7 at anything you can...

Kindly, fuck off.
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: Crash on April 19, 2019, 04:43:17 pm
You are bitching if we don't post in your suggestions...
You are bitching if we disagree on your suggestions...
You are bitching at other people's suggestions...
You are bitching 24/7 at anything you can...

Kindly, fuck off.
Word!
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: Srex_Zangetsu on April 22, 2019, 12:18:15 pm
Unkindly,buzz off,ass-lickers.If you have nothing smart to say,do not spread retardedness here.
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: Finisher on April 22, 2019, 05:29:20 pm
Learn,to,fucking.type.
Title: Re: Message to admins
Post by: Ahsoka_Tano on April 22, 2019, 05:51:40 pm
You are bitching if we don't post in your suggestions...
You are bitching if we disagree on your suggestions...
You are bitching at other people's suggestions...
You are bitching 24/7 at anything you can...

Kindly, fuck off.
Word!
He kinda sumarized it all.