Plan B

General => Bug Reports => Fixed => Topic started by: MegaPilot on October 14, 2017, 02:18:56 pm

Title: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: MegaPilot on October 14, 2017, 02:18:56 pm
I just reclassed with 100 armor and 100 health and I got killed by the anti death evade system.

Seriously, this system is a joke.
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: ZetSu on October 14, 2017, 03:32:02 pm
Yep happened to me twice this month. I didn't know there was an anti evading death system. However, don't need to blame it in that way, it needs to be fixed.
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: COBRA on October 15, 2017, 12:02:46 am
I think so.. I thought it was bug when I saw it for the 1st time: https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=2449.0
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: Madman on October 15, 2017, 11:50:36 am
Yes remove this bullshit
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: MegaPilot on October 15, 2017, 12:03:06 pm
I think so.. I thought it was bug when I saw it for the 1st time: https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=2449.0
Don't think it was because of my skin, Piu wasn't shooting me AFAIK.
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on October 15, 2017, 01:36:06 pm
I think so.. I thought it was bug when I saw it for the 1st time: https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=2449.0
Don't think it was because of my skin, Piu wasn't shooting me AFAIK.


What came up in the kill screen?

Did the skull icon show up next to your name or a weapon with a name next to it?
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: LPCOLTER on October 15, 2017, 03:12:08 pm
It also happened with me I went to duel and got killed while dueling(a message popped up)
And death was shown in death window....
Fix Dis
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: MegaPilot on October 15, 2017, 03:40:42 pm
I think so.. I thought it was bug when I saw it for the 1st time: https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=2449.0
Don't think it was because of my skin, Piu wasn't shooting me AFAIK.


What came up in the kill screen?

Did the skull icon show up next to your name or a weapon with a name next to it?
Piu got the kill by shooting me with a Tec-9.
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on October 15, 2017, 04:02:53 pm
Piu got the kill by shooting me with a Tec-9.

Confirm with her then whether she killed your actor or not,lol.

People love freekills in this server.

I mean even when you logged out once,I tried to beat your actor ped with a Dildo and Fists (I know it would be futile lel).
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: Maddy on October 15, 2017, 04:50:58 pm
The worst thing is we can get killed while having Spawn Protection also. Some modifications are needed indeed.
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: LPCOLTER on October 15, 2017, 05:22:23 pm
The worst thing is we can get killed while having Spawn Protection also. Some modifications are needed indeed.
One more thing, the bullets HAVE effect on these dummies
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on October 15, 2017, 05:27:17 pm
The worst thing is we can get killed while having Spawn Protection also. Some modifications are needed indeed.

Sometimes the actors don't even spawn in-spawn making it really unfair for the players who get their's spawned.
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: Bully on October 15, 2017, 08:05:08 pm
Teamkilling is real with this new system .(happened with me , so plz confirm and debug)
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on October 15, 2017, 08:15:47 pm
Well technically that would be wrong since you reclassed and it all boils down to a ethical issue.
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: Shawkhawk did nothing wrong! on October 16, 2017, 06:18:22 am
You want anti death evade system but yet you don't want it.
It's just 1 kill! Why bother?
When it happens just type "lol!?" N move on.
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: Carg on October 16, 2017, 08:02:21 am
The worst thing is we can get killed while having Spawn Protection also. Some modifications are needed indeed.

Sometimes the actors don't even spawn in-spawn making it really unfair for the players who get their's spawned.
You cant be killed under spawnprotection. Actors are removed for spawnprotection.
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: Altus_Demens on October 16, 2017, 03:15:44 pm
I definitely like Jonne's aspiration to remove any possibilities of breaking rules instead of punishing for it post factum. Just imagine there was a script to disable all of the player's cheats when he joins our server. :) What a better world would it be! Most of the bans would be gone, moderators and admins wouldn't be needed that badly too - only to regulate the community maybe. Our online would also grow up rapidly. Who cares if a person intended to use cheats if he can't do it anyways? Unfortunately, it is only thought experiment.

But if we can deploy such scripts to prevent other sorts of rulebreaking, we do it. Death evasion is a case too. Just look at the Reports Archives (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?board=20), there are a lot of death evasion cases. Now it is hardly possible. I'll quote myself:
Besides, recently Jonne has added (but not officially announced yet) the anti death evasion system based on static, motionless actor which appears at the place where a player disconnected/reclassed/went duelling/... for 15 seconds with the same amount of health and armour the player had. If you kill this defenseless actor, you'll gain another point to your kill score, and the respective player will only gain a death point.
I can only add the the actor is removed from the car and he receives damage from the 'natural' causes such as falling or lack of oxygen underwater. So don't reclass etc in the water or midair.

There is only one bug: you shouldn't be able to deal damage to a clone if you belong to the same team he belonged to at the moment of his reclassing etc.

Now, please, explain, what exactly don't you like in the entire system so you start this topic in the Bug Reports section, MegaPilot?
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: Crash on October 16, 2017, 04:43:40 pm
One guy was standing on a road,and was probably going to quit,somehow i managed to damage him with a car and i got the kill. I wasn't even going to kill him.
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: LPCOLTER on October 16, 2017, 07:51:49 pm
Altus, Today TeamKill was seen.
You said that team killing wasn't possible for actors but happened.
What u gonna say now
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: GlennN on October 16, 2017, 09:53:11 pm
Altus, Today TeamKill was seen.
You said that team killing wasn't possible for actors but happened.
What u gonna say now

Read his reply again. He clearly mentioned the bug.
There is only one bug: you shouldn't be able to deal damage to a clone if you belong to the same team he belonged to at the moment of his reclassing etc.


I'd also like to add; You shouldn't be able to gain a kill from your own clone when you reclass (eg. A Terrorist going into Civilian spawn and does /rc c and kills his own actor and gains a kill).

Just a few bugs here and there. Nothing "bullshit" about it.
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: Jonne on October 17, 2017, 03:37:43 am
I'll make an update post about it tomorrow, explaining how the system works and listing all of the other updates as well. As for the bug report, there are a couple of small bugs that have been fixed now. One of them was the distance (you probably noticed Piu killing you from a long distance), it was calculating the distance between the player that killed you and your current position, instead of the position of the actor. That has been fixed now. I've added a fix for teamkilling a couple of days ago, but apparently there was still a bug in it. I've updated it last night and teamkilling shouldn't be possible anymore now. The kills also won't show up on the sidebar anymore, since it will always show your new class colour, and that might lead to confusion.
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: LPCOLTER on October 17, 2017, 12:28:58 pm
I'll make an update post about it tomorrow, explaining how the system works and listing all of the other updates as well. As for the bug report, there are a couple of small bugs that have been fixed now. One of them was the distance (you probably noticed Piu killing you from a long distance), it was calculating the distance between the player that killed you and your current position, instead of the position of the actor. That has been fixed now. I've added a fix for teamkilling a couple of days ago, but apparently there was still a bug in it. I've updated it last night and teamkilling shouldn't be possible anymore now. The kills also won't show up on the sidebar anymore, since it will always show your new class colour, and that might lead to confusion.
It is indeed confusing
But yay thanks for update!
Title: Re: Anti death evade system is bullshit
Post by: MegaPilot on October 17, 2017, 09:04:00 pm
I'll make an update post about it tomorrow, explaining how the system works and listing all of the other updates as well. As for the bug report, there are a couple of small bugs that have been fixed now. One of them was the distance (you probably noticed Piu killing you from a long distance), it was calculating the distance between the player that killed you and your current position, instead of the position of the actor. That has been fixed now. I've added a fix for teamkilling a couple of days ago, but apparently there was still a bug in it. I've updated it last night and teamkilling shouldn't be possible anymore now. The kills also won't show up on the sidebar anymore, since it will always show your new class colour, and that might lead to confusion.
Thanks. :)