Plan B
General => Suggestions => Closed => Topic started by: Satvik on December 13, 2016, 08:37:17 am
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Its a suggestion that fake entry should not be allowed, in most of the servers it is not allowed, it gives advantage to player who uses fake entry
Few days back while i was Altus at old airport, he had 10 hp left so he went went to rustler, entered it and used /ej and he went a long distance away, so its equal to evading death.
Thanks!
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Q: Fake entry to a vehicle to death evade? Cuz I thought "Fake entry" as connecting to server with undercover nickname at the first time I see the title.
Q: Most of roleplay servers? or most of team death match servers?
A: It's a long period time when someone enters a vehicle, then escapes from the attacker. Also it's not a big deal really. This is GTA and ofcourse we will try anyway to run. -1 for this suggestion..
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Dm servers ofc, if its gta then 2 shots and other bugs or other things must be allowed as well, afterall its gta no? Fake entry to the vehicle gives much advantage, its like evading (for the example i gave)
No hard feelings but i hope it should not be allowed :D
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+1
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I know this rule and to be honest it's almost useless, I don't see the big deal in doing fake vehicle entry because he will most likely die anyway it's just a bad habit. This rule will only open the door for tons of reports and headache for admins to deal with
And what you said about Altus doing in the airport, it's not a fake entry since he literally entered a rustler and typed /ej , fake entry is when you press F to get into a vehicle and you break the animation to land a few cheap shots (usually useless since you're already gonna die) and I say useless because it's done by low hp players most of the time
We don't need any new rule that limits the style of a fighter, this is GTA San Andreas. Fight as you like and escaping is also a skill :>
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Nvm this topic is for suggestion only, i suggested what i like, and i respect your opinion too.
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The "fake entry" in a vehicle is not a big deal at all. I'm more interested in removing the /ej to evade death.
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As Fini said that "no fake car entry" rule is kinda pointless, i don't think we need it.
The "fake entry" in a vehicle is not a big deal at all. I'm more interested in removing the /ej to evade death.
That's not an abuse in any way. That's actually a tactic to survive. However, you should be able to snipe the player while he's in the air (most of the time if not everytime)
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I agree with adding 2-shot, C-Bug, Slide bug and other bugs.
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Dm servers ofc, if its gta then 2 shots and other bugs or other things must be allowed as well, afterall its gta no? Fake entry to the vehicle gives much advantage, its like evading (for the example i gave)
No hard feelings but i hope it should not be allowed :D
So we should not allow the suicide (jumping from top of building, diying in water, etc) when you near to get killed by someone lol
We should allow that which is not big deal, but we shouldn't allow which is a big deal like as using game's animation bugs to get unfair advantage to kill eachother. You know those tricks are not easy to do. Newbie guy can't do that if he/she doesn't know the way. But a newbie guy can escape easily with "fake entry" :D So everything is fair enough!
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So the example i gave about altus, thats fair? I guess its easy way to get rid while you're having low health isnt it? But nvm :D
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i was about to talk about this and yeah it doesnt dmg if other guy is lagging then he'll do a massive damage to u with combat
and its an annoying bug
its shouldnt be allowed since ppl can abuse it!!
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Exactly........we will have more reports, just for active /regular players which is not a big deal, it will be followed as a rule later.
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It is a bit annoying, but it's also a legit part of the game.
As Fini said that "no fake car entry" rule is kinda pointless, i don't think we need it.
Also:
I agree with adding 2-shot, C-Bug, Slide bug and other bugs.
Hell no, no more bugs.
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The game mechanics aren't perfect and there are many more imperfections being abused apart from the one you mentioned here. For example, certain skins can spin instantly with no turning radius, fast skins. Obviously they don't move like that because the developers decided to make some advantaged skins for online gaming, but because they were designed in the GTA San Andreas beta phase and weren't modified afterwards, since those skins are only for NPCs in the single player missions.
If you want the fake entry glitch to be removed, suggest to remove the other glitches too. Including the ones you take advantage of.
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I agree with adding 2-shot, C-Bug, Slide bug and other bugs.
Hell no, no more bugs.
Why ? Is it because you can't use it or anything like that ?
Bugs are awesome, you will like it only if understand the way people use it. Cbug will be usefull for civilians because when ever they shoot with deagle, the animation will be continued for 1 second which gives and advantage for the opposite team especially if he has a combact. Therefore adding cbug will help civilians too.
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Why ? Is it because you can't use it or anything like that ?
Bugs are awesome, you will like it only if understand the way people use it. Cbug will be usefull for civilians because when ever they shoot with deagle, the animation will be continued for 1 second which gives and advantage for the opposite team especially if he has a combact. Therefore adding cbug will help civilians too.
Yes, I can't use most of the bugs and I don't want to either. PTP has always been bug-free server (except when Tenshi had an emo moment that one time), I'd like it to stay that way.
Looking from your perspective, 2-Shot would benefit the Securities greatly. Yes, the C-Bug would also benefit the Civilians. Now imagine a group of 8 Civilians with Deagles C-Bugging everything in sight. Or a group of 4 Securities 2-Shooting everyone. It will be a mess. So no thank you, I wouldn't like to see bugs make a comeback here.
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I don't see anything wrong with using /ej immediately after getting in. It's been like this for as long as I can remember and I've never seen anyone suggest it be changed. There are plenty of reasons unrelated to fighting that you might want to immediately use /ej for, like if your plane is positioned to explode and you don't realize until you get in it. It's not "fake entry" and it's definitely not a problem.
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I don't see anything wrong with using /ej immediately after getting in. It's been like this for as long as I can remember and I've never seen anyone suggest it be changed. There are plenty of reasons unrelated to fighting that you might want to immediately use /ej for, like if your plane is positioned to explode and you don't realize until you get in it. It's not "fake entry" and it's definitely not a problem.
ohh wait i thought he was talking about car fake entry!!!
rustle ej is legit
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As for me, everything is fine both with using /ej right after getting in the plane, and with fake entry. As it was correctly stated above, it doesn't really give a noticeable advantage (unless used with perfect timings), but kinda adds a set of tactical options in difficult situations. You're right, it's a matter of convention among the players, but I prefer it the way as it is. So, -1 to 'criminalizing' fake entry or 'inappropriate' /ej usage.
As for c-bug and 2-shots, they're way too powerful in right hands. I see no need to allow using them. Also -1.
P.S. Strange that the situation has attracted your attention only now, Satvik. Regulars were always using fake entry and /ej from motionless planes, at least since I joined. Anyways, you did right to start the discussion here instead of flaming ingame.
P.P.S.
...while i was Altus at old airport...
Don't scare me. :o
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I don't see anything wrong with using /ej immediately after getting in. It's been like this for as long as I can remember and I've never seen anyone suggest it be changed. There are plenty of reasons unrelated to fighting that you might want to immediately use /ej for, like if your plane is positioned to explode and you don't realize until you get in it. It's not "fake entry" and it's definitely not a problem.
ohh wait i thought he was talking about car fake entry!!!
rustle ej is legit
car fake entry, actually he misused ej, in order to avoid death, ran to rustler and straight away did /ej so, i think it should not be allowed
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Why ? Is it because you can't use it or anything like that ?
Bugs are awesome, you will like it only if understand the way people use it. Cbug will be usefull for civilians because when ever they shoot with deagle, the animation will be continued for 1 second which gives and advantage for the opposite team especially if he has a combact. Therefore adding cbug will help civilians too.
Yes, I can't use most of the bugs and I don't want to either. PTP has always been bug-free server (except when Tenshi had an emo moment that one time), I'd like it to stay that way.
Looking from your perspective, 2-Shot would benefit the Securities greatly. Yes, the C-Bug would also benefit the Civilians. Now imagine a group of 8 Civilians with Deagles C-Bugging everything in sight. Or a group of 4 Securities 2-Shooting everyone. It will be a mess. So no thank you, I wouldn't like to see bugs make a comeback here.
Spectre, a group of terrorists with their combacts as passengers are way powerful, especially when they attack as 2 or 3 groups. So, securities using 2 shot is nothing infront of them as the combacts acts as a minigun there lol..
And cbug will be a great help to civilians when a group of terrorists or cops attack one person.
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The topic name and the post is misleading. I think satvik meant that entering rustler and then using /ej to escape a fight shouldn't be allowed(for those who r still wondering if this topic is about faking a vehicle entry in fights)
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A small video regarding this....
https://youtu.be/7UG2Q0Y4sXA
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A small video regarding this....
https://youtu.be/7UG2Q0Y4sXA
With all due respect and experience, this is a brilliant tactic. Keep a vehicle around to go hunt!
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Its a suggestion that legs should not be allowed for players that have low hp. Legs are giving advantage to player who uses it.
Few days back while i was in desert, some newbie had just 10 hp left, so he just ran away, i was trying to shoot, but he refused to take fight and ran even faster from me, and he went a long distance away, so its equal to evading death.
Thanks!
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Exactly its equal to evading death!
A small video regarding this....
https://youtu.be/7UG2Q0Y4sXA
Thanks^
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Its a suggestion that legs should not be allowed for players that have low hp. Legs are giving advantage to player who uses it.
Few days back while i was in desert, some newbie had just 10 hp left, so he just ran away, i was trying to shoot, but he refused to take fight and ran even faster from me, and he went a long distance away, so its equal to evading death.
Thanks!
Omg that's so unfair, it should be forbidden !
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Its a suggestion that legs should not be allowed for players that have low hp. Legs are giving advantage to player who uses it.
Few days back while i was in desert, some newbie had just 10 hp left, so he just ran away, i was trying to shoot, but he refused to take fight and ran even faster from me, and he went a long distance away, so its equal to evading death.
Thanks!
Omg that's so unfair, it should be forbidden !
LMAO
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Its a suggestion that legs should not be allowed for players that have low hp. Legs are giving advantage to player who uses it.
Few days back while i was in desert, some newbie had just 10 hp left, so he just ran away, i was trying to shoot, but he refused to take fight and ran even faster from me, and he went a long distance away, so its equal to evading death.
Thanks!
Wow that's savage!
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We won't add such rules. The rules should be clear and with very little "gray" zone. If we start adding such 'smaller' rules, we'll only waste more admins time and make it more confusing for new players on what's allowed and what's not.