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General => Suggestions => Topic started by: Jig on July 04, 2021, 04:50:11 pm

Title: Remove fps limit
Post by: Jig on July 04, 2021, 04:50:11 pm
In this day and age ? Na bru remove dat shit bru

Agree ?

Okay serious talk time
I typed this fast so it might contain mistakes

High fps has more disadvantages than advantages

Disadvantage
-swimming is slower
-car control is bugged
-parachuting is bugged
-riding a bicycle becomes bugged
Has way more bugs

Advantage
- Famous deagle glitch (side to side movement) and with combat
- no sniper stun ( thats only for fps above 600)


Weapon damage is not affected no matter the fps! Goddamn


Bugs videos
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-weapon damage


Other reasons why the script should be removed

- For new players who has no knowledge about fps


Conclusion
High fps affect only cbug ( gives faster cbug) and cbug isnt allowed in this server.

It also affects 2shoots but as cbug, the bug isnt allowed in the server


PTP there arent any advantages with high fps so 🤷








Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Zeta on July 04, 2021, 08:02:47 pm
this update is so good in wars/gameplayes,fair fights at all,but many players dont know how to lock their fps,for example today,many newbies kicked..! and they join again and again kicked but never come back to server so ::)


Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: 𝕾𝖎𝖓𝕯𝖆𝖈𝖈𝖔 on July 04, 2021, 08:39:05 pm
Cry us a river please, make another essay dont disallow it
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Jig on July 04, 2021, 10:22:54 pm
,many newbies kicked..! and they join again and again kicked but never come back to server so ::)

This!
Take this into consideration.

Also to the level 5 admins. Can you state a reason why you decided to create this limit? What are the reasons?

Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: BouncySofa on July 04, 2021, 10:29:55 pm
,many newbies kicked..! and they join again and again kicked but never come back to server so ::)

Also to the level 5 admins. Can you state a reason why you decided to create this limit? What are the reasons?


This is why they decided to create this limit

this update is so good in wars/gameplayes,fair fights at all.

Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: LuCa on July 04, 2021, 10:46:06 pm
Remove FPS limit what’s even the point ??
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Kelik on July 05, 2021, 05:20:08 am
For me, this is a good one because there are advantages and bugs to those who play SAMP with high FPS. For example, having high FPS means slower swimming like this one (https://youtu.be/ECwKzB81PW8)(Yes, I know that this video is for the singleplayer mode for the game but it's the same as well when you're playing online and I recommend watching it).

Now, this one (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=7058.0) is different because he's using SAMP Addon but there's a file called "Swim_FPS_Fix.asi". By the name itself, you can swim faster depending on your FPS(the more the FPS, the faster you can swim). If you combined it with a file called "FramerateVigilante.asi", you'll have the same issue on Eli's video even if you don't have SAMP Addon installed like this one (https://youtu.be/Wn1FZB1Zv00).

In short, you need FPS limit to have a balanced gameplay between both sides without any advantages. You can use /fpslimit for that or installed an app that will limit your FPS.
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: HawayiJahz on July 05, 2021, 06:02:59 am
As very high FPS apparently paves way for certain bugs occuring which don't happen below the FPS limit, this rule is justifiable. However, the issue of beginners getting kicked for exceeding FPS limit needs to be dealt with in my opinion as it can have a detrimental effect on the server's player count.

On a different note, if anybody is struggling to cap their FPS, one solution is to use Bandicam (http://bandicam.com/downloads/)'s FPS limiter to force your FPS below 105.
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Jig on July 05, 2021, 08:56:28 am
As very high FPS apparently paves way for certain bugs occuring which don't happen below the FPS limit, this rule is justifiable. However, the issue of beginners getting kicked for exceeding FPS limit needs to be dealt with in my opinion as it can have a detrimental effect on the server's player count.

On a different note, if anybody is struggling to cap their FPS, one solution is to use Bandicam (http://bandicam.com/downloads/)'s FPS limiter to force your FPS below 105.

Why do I need to install a recorder to play samp. No newbie will go out thier way to install a recorder to play a server btw

For me, this is a good one because there are advantages and bugs to those who play SAMP with high FPS. For example, having high FPS means slower swimming like this one (https://youtu.be/ECwKzB81PW8)(Yes, I know that this video is for the singleplayer mode for the game but it's the same as well when you're playing online and I recommend watching it).

Now, this one (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=7058.0) is different because he's using SAMP Addon but there's a file called "Swim_FPS_Fix.asi". By the name itself, you can swim faster depending on your FPS(the more the FPS, the faster you can swim). If you combined it with a file called "FramerateVigilante.asi", you'll have the same issue on Eli's video even if you don't have SAMP Addon installed like this one (https://youtu.be/Wn1FZB1Zv00).

In short, you need FPS limit to have a balanced gameplay between both sides without any advantages. You can use /fpslimit for that or installed an app that will limit your FPS.

Brother how often do you swim on PTP? Its not like you swim for the whole gameplay

Higher fps dont give an advantage tho. Only for cbug and 2shoot. Bugs are not allowed on the server. So allow High fps
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Altus_Demens on July 05, 2021, 10:43:31 am
You should remember that the frame rate doesn't go above 100 on unmodified game. The game is old and many mechanics depend on the FPS value, they don't work correctly when FPS is too high.

I don't think it will be removed.
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: LuCa on July 05, 2021, 12:31:08 pm
You should remember that the frame rate doesn't go above 100 on unmodified game. The game is old and many mechanics depend on the FPS value, they don't work correctly when FPS is too high.

I don't think it will be removed.

You won’t have a server to play on when your FPS limit kicks randoms and  many regulars.
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: StuLenS on July 05, 2021, 01:32:00 pm
+1
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Jig on July 05, 2021, 01:38:32 pm
You should remember that the frame rate doesn't go above 100 on unmodified game. The game is old and many mechanics depend on the FPS value, they don't work correctly when FPS is too high.

I don't think it will be removed.

Yes it changes the mechanics. But is there an advantage? No!
List the reasons why there should be an fps cap

Waiting on jonne's reason for adding it. By the time ill start a poll
The decision will be made by the players. Correck?. Since PTP is a DEMOCRATIC community.

Vote on the poll men and women.
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Fran on July 05, 2021, 04:02:59 pm
Well, I don't know if it is a bug or Samp Addon is just giving  fake information to the server but I  still can use +105 fps in game, I recorded it and checked the frames average in the Control Panel and it showed that i was with 80 fps average, I know that admins can check it in other ways but I always knew that the frames showed in your screen (using samp addon) is different than the frames that the server receives.
Just another good reason to disallow addoonnn
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Jig on July 05, 2021, 04:19:16 pm
Well, I don't know if it is a bug or Samp Addon is just giving  fake information to the server but I  still can use +105 fps in game, I recorded it and checked the frames average in the Control Panel and it showed that i was with 80 fps average, I know that admins can check it in other ways but I always knew that the frames showed in your screen (using samp addon) is different than the frames that the server receives.
Just another good reason to disallow addoonnn

Let me explain this problem. When your fps is close to 200, the fps reader gives a different reading. So in your case you had 185 fps and in the CP it showed 80fps.

But you should move this video to the ''samp addon'' topic because it does not give any addition to the topic.
Move it to addon topic in mods section
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Finisher on July 05, 2021, 06:06:15 pm
Well, I don't know if it is a bug or Samp Addon is just giving  fake information to the server but I  still can use +105 fps in game, I recorded it and checked the frames average in the Control Panel and it showed that i was with 80 fps average, I know that admins can check it in other ways but I always knew that the frames showed in your screen (using samp addon) is different than the frames that the server receives.
Just another good reason to disallow addoonnn

that’s true, addon uses your full monitor hz and will be shown as fps, in my case that’s 240 but it’s not really my fps, even if i limit it, same thing. I never thought about it like that but after seeing the update kicks I realized that the number showing is monitor hz. (Disable fps limit in installation)

that’s why addon users won’t be kicked for fps because they are using normal fps anyway, they’re just utilizing hz

forced fps by asi or cleo are real fps will be shown in both your screen and server data
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Darwin/Retired on July 05, 2021, 06:47:21 pm
-1
Keep the update, let new players to the server get kicked, allow it to have less players on the server
Good update with a bright future for the server
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Zeta on July 05, 2021, 07:08:11 pm
Samp addon give fake fps to server...i test it on other servers i had 180 fps with addon but in that server system my fps was 80-90,its clear if u watch CP duels Fps

so someone Still can play with 105+ Fps
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Great_Khali on July 06, 2021, 02:52:45 pm
No idea why this is done , i cannot imagine one playing at 5fps as per the lower limit ,
I play at 60fps and im fine if someone is playing at 200fps etc why do you want to kick players for using high fps btw , since we don't have c-bugs etc so just for sniper no-stun its useless suggestion to spoil fun for lots of newbies specially.

You want us to use some 3rd party apps or /fpslimit to limit fps- ok but what about newbies ? they come n get kicked 2-3 times n leave forever.

Get rid of this shit asap plz >.<
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Finisher on July 06, 2021, 03:49:20 pm
No idea why this is done , i cannot imagine one playing at 5fps as per the lower limit ,
I play at 60fps and im fine if someone is playing at 200fps etc why do you want to kick players for using high fps btw , since we don't have c-bugs etc so just for sniper no-stun its useless suggestion to spoil fun for lots of newbies specially.

You want us to use some 3rd party apps or /fpslimit to limit fps- ok but what about newbies ? they come n get kicked 2-3 times n leave forever.

Get rid of this shit asap plz >.<

probably because of something like this
even that isn't possible with high fps i've tried 300 fps and my swimming was completely opposite from this, it was almost like swimming in my place, but what the heck is this? :D looks like some extra files
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: cobby on July 06, 2021, 05:52:19 pm
No idea why this is done , i cannot imagine one playing at 5fps as per the lower limit ,
I play at 60fps and im fine if someone is playing at 200fps etc why do you want to kick players for using high fps btw , since we don't have c-bugs etc so just for sniper no-stun its useless suggestion to spoil fun for lots of newbies specially.

You want us to use some 3rd party apps or /fpslimit to limit fps- ok but what about newbies ? they come n get kicked 2-3 times n leave forever.

Get rid of this shit asap plz >.<

probably because of something like this
even that isn't possible with high fps i've tried 300 fps and my swimming was completely opposite from this, it was almost like swimming in my place, but what the heck is this? :D looks like some extra files
That's the addon!

You should remember that the frame rate doesn't go above 100 on unmodified game. The game is old and many mechanics depend on the FPS value, they don't work correctly when FPS is too high.

I don't think it will be removed.
100% true. I used to bitch about how smooth my 120 fps game was couple of months ago while my fps wasn't even unlocked. Seemed like I was only using 90 fps locked and 100 fps is the game's limit, using 120 Hz. My game completely changed when I used some files to unlock my fps and then lock it to external numbers like 120. Now I'm utilizing 120 Hz completely.
Still, remove this shit. Many new people don't know to lock your fps and many regulars don't know what monitor Hertz are while they say they're at 300 fps, useless fps causing bugs and you're not even seeing anything above 60.
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: LuCa on July 06, 2021, 09:27:52 pm
No idea why this is done , i cannot imagine one playing at 5fps as per the lower limit ,
I play at 60fps and im fine if someone is playing at 200fps etc why do you want to kick players for using high fps btw , since we don't have c-bugs etc so just for sniper no-stun its useless suggestion to spoil fun for lots of newbies specially.

You want us to use some 3rd party apps or /fpslimit to limit fps- ok but what about newbies ? they come n get kicked 2-3 times n leave forever.

Get rid of this shit asap plz >.<

probably because of something like this
even that isn't possible with high fps i've tried 300 fps and my swimming was completely opposite from this, it was almost like swimming in my place, but what the heck is this? :D looks like some extra files
That's the addon!

You should remember that the frame rate doesn't go above 100 on unmodified game. The game is old and many mechanics depend on the FPS value, they don't work correctly when FPS is too high.

I don't think it will be removed.
100% true. I used to bitch about how smooth my 120 fps game was couple of months ago while my fps wasn't even unlocked. Seemed like I was only using 90 fps locked and 100 fps is the game's limit, using 120 Hz. My game completely changed when I used some files to unlock my fps and then lock it to external numbers like 120. Now I'm utilizing 120 Hz completely.
Still, remove this shit. Many new people don't know to lock your fps and many regulars don't know what monitor Hertz are while they say they're at 300 fps, useless fps causing bugs and you're not even seeing anything above 60.


Addon ? I have addon and i swim normal ?
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: cobby on July 07, 2021, 08:19:47 am
Do you have high fps or have you locked yours?



Remove the update if higher fps gives you disadvantages then it is person's own choice if he wants disadvantages or not.

Remove addon, addon with high fps is OP.
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: knn on July 07, 2021, 08:38:21 pm
This update is just stupid . makes 0 sense

Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Jig on July 08, 2021, 02:34:11 am
Im locking voting in the next 4 days since jonne does not want to reply.
Vote up boys
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: GlennN on July 08, 2021, 03:57:42 am
Judging by the votes, the answer looks like a no.
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: 𝕾𝖎𝖓𝕯𝖆𝖈𝖈𝖔 on July 08, 2021, 09:39:32 am
if remove fps limit snip become bad and spawn prot dont become good i hope jonne fix fps limit fix snip, sniping ez no remove cause snip is easy
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: StuLenS on July 08, 2021, 12:51:08 pm
No idea why this is done , i cannot imagine one playing at 5fps as per the lower limit ,
I play at 60fps and im fine if someone is playing at 200fps etc why do you want to kick players for using high fps btw , since we don't have c-bugs etc so just for sniper no-stun its useless suggestion to spoil fun for lots of newbies specially.

You want us to use some 3rd party apps or /fpslimit to limit fps- ok but what about newbies ? they come n get kicked 2-3 times n leave forever.

Get rid of this shit asap plz >.<

Exactly, the new rules are getting ridiculous. Now we are not allowed to play with high fps wtf?! The server is becoming some sort of dictatorship with those limited rules..

Jonne, if this continues, the server will just end up like old ptp with Tenshi. Let us play with high FPS ffs!!!
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Aking_Bhai on July 08, 2021, 04:12:20 pm
No idea why this is done , i cannot imagine one playing at 5fps as per the lower limit ,
I play at 60fps and im fine if someone is playing at 200fps etc why do you want to kick players for using high fps btw , since we don't have c-bugs etc so just for sniper no-stun its useless suggestion to spoil fun for lots of newbies specially.

You want us to use some 3rd party apps or /fpslimit to limit fps- ok but what about newbies ? they come n get kicked 2-3 times n leave forever.

Get rid of this shit asap plz >.<

Exactly, the new rules are getting ridiculous. Now we are not allowed to play with high fps wtf?! The server is becoming some sort of dictatorship with those limited rules..

Jonne, if this continues, the server will just end up like old ptp with Tenshi. Let us play with high FPS ffs!!!
ye remove it   /fpslimit
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: 𝕾𝖎𝖓𝕯𝖆𝖈𝖈𝖔 on July 08, 2021, 06:11:08 pm
At first I misunderstood this update and thought it would actually help with players but after I seen how addon can evade the fps limit, what kind of bullshit is this? I was on echo today and every 2-3 minutes a new player got kicked. What in the hell were you trying to do is my question here, the only way this would work is if addon was disallowed aswell cause of the firerate but addon evades this easily cause addon says your fps is 90-97 and it is infact much more than that, as I said at first I agreed with the update cause i thought addon will not be able to evade this but what's the point now? Sorry but this update seems like the level 5s were bored and just said "Let's make some update just so we have something new", Jesus Christ good luck getting players with this update lol, this is exactly the reason why PTP will die in less than a year.  :D :D :D :D :D :D
Edit: Here's a good idea for updates maybe go through the suggestions and everything you marked as "To Be Added" ADD IT, I'm sure everyone would like to have 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 duels I think the problem is that the server community has no effect on any future updates..
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Jig on July 11, 2021, 05:21:16 pm
Voting locked.
13 wants it gone.
12 wants to keep it.
10 doesnt care.

So im guessing it will be removed correck?
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Aking_Bhai on July 11, 2021, 06:03:48 pm
Voting locked.
13 wants it gone.
12 wants to keep it.
10 doesnt care.

So im guessing it will be removed correck?

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Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: cobby on July 12, 2021, 06:04:44 pm
I don't think this bullshitting will ever stop.
Remove the damn update and disallow the fucking addon.
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Darwin/Retired on July 13, 2021, 03:48:57 pm
Remove it please
Title: Re: Remove fps limit
Post by: Quido on August 01, 2021, 04:35:44 am
It has been removed. For more information, read this page - https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=7133.0