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Offline Aksel

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Communications privacy
« on: July 05, 2018, 02:09:44 pm »
I know that here we are just players and server managers don't have any sensitive data  about its users that can be used.
Well when most of communities protect their user's data because even if they dont want, the law forces them to.
I think everyone in samp community (except for new players) knows that in most of servers, admins can read player's private messages and here PlanB isnot an exception, Admins level 4 or higher can read all (/PM) CMD contenant, and even if an admin isnot online, the server send him all players private messages to his IRC BNC. and speaking about myself i really dont like the fact that people can read something that should be personnel between me and someone else and that's why i dont use it unless someone is greeting me and iprefer to use discord.
Once I was told by an Admin that some "admins" enjoy reading player's PMs its literally their hobby!!!  Reading someone's else messages is illegal in many countries. And even if it isn't, this practice is heavily frowned upon. By doing this, you're invading user's privacy... Other point you might not know this too but Admins themselves dont use /PM command, they've an other private messaging command (Secret Private Message) and it contenant doesnot appear on IRC logs or they just use (/DUB) command.
I know this can be useful for admins in some cases when a ban evader/cheater joins game and start asking some fishy questions (just like the way how ahmed got banned). But you can definitely
1-limit this to level(0/1) players
2-limit /PM contenant to level 5 admins or higher(they are trustworthy)
3- just create a new private messaging cmd for players.

My second suggestion is non admins users shouldnt be allowed to see teamchat logs when they are on IRC, TPMs should be limited to players in game in that team
IRC global chat is more than enough for normal users, i dont see any excuse why IRC users can see that chat, why they can read it when they cant write on it? see? makes no sense and by doing this you'll not recieve reports about players leaking other team's info. It's so abusable i can just open IRC on my phone while playing and use other team informations that i see on IRC against them.

and by end of this topic these were just suggestions to improve user's experience and makes it safer. I'd definetly like to hear your opnoin and thoughts and any criticism is highly understandable!


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Re: Communications privacy
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2018, 03:03:00 pm »
I agree with the privacy concept. "Private message" /pm is not that private since all administrators could see it. But i hardly believe they would do that.
And also +1 for team chat. To be honest,i also used my phone to read all the sensitive intel from the teams since there is no rule against it. And i'm pretty sure many of you did the same.

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Re: Communications privacy
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2018, 03:04:16 pm »
Hmmmmmmmm. But do you really think this happens everytime?

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Re: Communications privacy
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2018, 03:47:55 pm »
I just like your IRC suggestion.




About your first suggestion:
Admins must have this power to govern players who wants to break rules or hax OR some other things.
I haven't seen any admin abuse their power in this case by showing players PMs.
They have the power to watch UNTILL they don't let other players know about it.
I think this is allowed for admins to have this ability.
menace> {33CCFF}[4] {FFFFFF}SMALL PENIS IRAN DOGS
menace> {33CCFF}[4] {FFFFFF}SMALL PENIS IRAN DOGS
Dr.MaDMaN[GgT]> {33CCFF}[3] {FFFFFF}Retarded mode is on
DedeceK> {33CCFF}[27] {FFFFFF}LOL
DedeceK> {33CCFF}[27] {FFFFFF}madman he wanan mute again

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Re: Communications privacy
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2018, 03:58:42 pm »
I do agree about this suggestion. Knowing that our messages are not completely private, specially the team chat because everyone can see it through IRC, that is why I prefer to use discord too.

But in fairness with the Admins, reading /pm is useful for them in some cases to catch a ban-evader (We all know there's alot of ban-evaders in the game specially old players who got permanently banned). However, those evaders already know that admins can track them through /pm. Making it somehow not a means to catch them. I know admins didn't really abuse these power since only few of them are active in-game.

In conclusion, making the Team Chat hidden from IRC is 100% good idea.

+1


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Re: Communications privacy
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2018, 04:39:58 pm »
Hmmmmmmmm. But do you really think this happens everytime?
Man... i said that it became some admin's hobby so you could imagine!

Do you like when someone gets your computer/phone and starts reading your messages with other people?


i mentioned that it can be useful to catch ban evaders, that's why i suggested to limit this to level 0/1 users!

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Re: Communications privacy
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2018, 05:02:58 pm »
+1 gg Aksel :)

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Re: Communications privacy
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2018, 05:04:55 pm »
Hmmmmmmmm. But do you really think this happens everytime?
Man... i said that it became some admin's hobby so you could imagine!
Sounds somehow familiar to me  ;D

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Re: Communications privacy
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2018, 05:51:48 pm »
Do you like when someone gets your computer/phone and starts reading your messages with other people?


i mentioned that it can be useful to catch ban evaders, that's why i suggested to limit this to level 0/1 users!
[/quote]That's a different story Aksel.


Limiting is may be good but not too much.
If that's it then I give +1
menace> {33CCFF}[4] {FFFFFF}SMALL PENIS IRAN DOGS
menace> {33CCFF}[4] {FFFFFF}SMALL PENIS IRAN DOGS
Dr.MaDMaN[GgT]> {33CCFF}[3] {FFFFFF}Retarded mode is on
DedeceK> {33CCFF}[27] {FFFFFF}LOL
DedeceK> {33CCFF}[27] {FFFFFF}madman he wanan mute again

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Re: Communications privacy
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2018, 05:52:55 pm »
I really don't care about That Admins read My PM :0
who give a shit?

But let's give +1

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Re: Communications privacy
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2018, 06:39:39 pm »
Hmmmmmmmm. But do you really think this happens everytime?
Man... i said that it became some admin's hobby so you could imagine!
So I vote for a change.
+1

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Re: Communications privacy
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2018, 06:43:20 pm »
About, The Private messages the admins themselves use /SMS command. Which is never recorded in logs(once skittles sent me when i was uc)
So +1 to privacy.
About IRC suggestion, it was suggested by someone some time ago(recenty) and i can pretty much see the hypocrisy of players who changed their minds after reading the author.
It was highly -1'd

Offline Saurabh

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Re: Communications privacy
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2018, 07:05:28 pm »
+1 for IRC. +1 for pm, coz sometimes it's just not worthy to tell the other player to switch to discord or some other communication app outside samp.

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Re: Communications privacy
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2018, 07:12:07 pm »
I really don't care about That Admins read My PM :0
who give a shit?

But let's give +1

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Re: Communications privacy
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2018, 12:49:32 am »
I was told that they can also read your /dub messages. +1