It's really a good idea. Hiding the nametag could be helpful to partially eliminate this. A lot of communities have commands like /mask as a VIP feature that hides their Nametag.
... About the specific suggestions:
- I would not allow skins selection to other players. I would show only the colour (the class) to the enemies, but not the names. What we get with this is ending with stupid clan wars (of course, for doing this you have to agree with me on the first 4 points). Mainly people fight against each other because of their names. If we delete the names, this will be solved.
So it will look like this: The classes colors will still be the same. The difference is that each class can see the names of the "classmates", making it easier to interact with them. But the enemies will not be able to see your name, they will only be able to see which class you belong to, your HP and... that's all. So if Pepe hates Jose, but Pepe has no way to find Jose to kill him over and over again in a clan war, then maybe Pepe will start playing the Gamemode.
- I would create a system that will make terrorists lose health if they are not proactively following the president, the same applies to cops. For example, if the president is in the center of SF, but the terrorists take longer than 1 minute to arrive there, they will be losing health quite rapidly, making the clan wars very unatractive. (just like presi loses health on the water, the system can be applied to all players).There are situations when the rival team blocks the area or forces you into a situation where you cannot move forward or avoid them until you kill them. Putting the time limit would just make it worse.
+1 good
Didnt read it lol.What the fuck is the point of comments such as this? Does it really reflect well on you to advertise that you lack the attention span to read a post that's shorter than a newspaper article at ~800 words?
Bullshits.Sure, maybe regulars who totally refuse to play the gamemode would leave. Who, out of the people who actually play, gives a shit? It won't matter to the gamemode. As it is, there might be 16 people in the server and maybe five are actually playing the GM while the rest are dueling or armor fighting. In terms of the gamemode, it doesn't matter if the remaining 11 leave. The same five people will still be playing.
If you applied this shit, most of regular players will get annoyed as they all gain their whole fun from the clan wars.
You might get some newbies feeling better if you disallowed clan wars as they will not get killed at armour because of the regulars fighting there, but you will almost get most of the regulars and vips hating the server as they gain their fun from the clan wars that you don't like.
Proofs: Most of them always leaving the game mode and fighting as cops vs terrorists. This is what they choose, this is what they like, so just keep it like how it is now.
Also remember when Tenshi disallowed fighting at armour at the old ptp, how many regulars didn't like it and how many players got banned because of fighting at armour, I was one of them.
Watch these reviews my friend ---> http://monitor.sacnr.com/server-1784707.html (http://monitor.sacnr.com/server-1784707.html)
You might get some newbies feeling better if you disallowed clan wars as they will not get killed at armour because of the regulars fighting there, but you will almost get most of the regulars and vips hating the server as they gain their fun from the clan wars that you don't like.
Yeah,we also need forced reclassing when the disbalance occurs.Or else,people can keep quitting on one side and the other side stays as it is,we need better balancing enforcement.I think that civilians shouldn't stay as they are.They're too unoredictable and can assault only one side,thus causing a huge disbalance.So,even if they can be interesting as they are now,maybe they'll need to be reformed.How about having additional map for people where they can fully visit the GTA SA map and have a house there,when they turn civilians,so they can work?I know we're not very numerous,but that's a realistical thing to do,including how interesting it can be.Working,buying a house,having relationships,parties...anything the GTA world can offer.Protecting the president is a type of roleplay,not just first person shooting lol.
Maybe my suggestion sounds childish,but I'd surely like the idea of having civilians actually do something except statswhoring and getting wrecked.VIPs could have a privilege of getting a house immediately plus getting to choose one un-modded expensive car per choice.Then,we can introduce the salary system.Scores(both proximity/chasing and kills/assists) would earn money.The more and the better you play,the more money you get.Plus we can count the hourly activity.
I think that all can be done for our server.Please,support me,and don't just randomly discard the idea.I know what the server is about,but the idea can be expanded.
Your opinions?Hope I'm not taking your time and space from the actual topic.
See?That's not a constructive argument.
Not bad, i like it. That would probably solve all the big major problems in PTP, including not following gamemode and constant gang wars.
However, people that do that would probably dislike your idea.
Bullshits.
If you applied this shit, most of regular players will get annoyed as they all gain their whole fun from the clan wars.
In a way Cop vs Terror is a Part of the Gamemode...
The Cops fight the Terrors so that they can’t even reach the President
And the Terrors fight the Cops too make it easier for a other group of terrors or Civilians to reach the President....
Do you get that Logic ?
Why Would you even suggest to hide names ? Do you rly think that that’s the reason why Cop vs Terror happens?
Why don’t you let the Players decide what they want to do... instead of bitching on Forums about your interpretation of the Gamemode
Watch these reviews my friend ---> http://monitor.sacnr.com/server-1784707.html (http://monitor.sacnr.com/server-1784707.html)I've been waiting for someone to acknowledge that these reviews exist-- I'm sure many of us have seen them. This writing has been on the wall for nearly two years now, and still we have toxic players like AhMeD who have their heads so far up their asses that they pretend that new players love the culture here.
Posted by Exp at 17:41:30, 27/11/2018:
Nice gamemode the community sucks. Angry 24 7 don t try to kill the people with TAG they will be mad at you and chasing you till you quit the game
Posted by Soulslayer at 19:37:44, 26/03/2019:
Community is very Angry for new player
Posted by Claus at 13:51:56, 04/03/2019:
Fucking VIPS RUIN GAME
Posted by P4Vlow at 13:46:49, 11/10/2018:
Server not Fun Police and Terrorist is Team kill Civilan
Posted by Hakim at 13:59:15, 08/12/2017:
Its good Server but Not for nee Player their Aren t welcome because VIPs will Team Up and kill even Go their in Different Teams Like Cops and terrors its very unbalanced
Afterall it’s a TDM ServerThis is not a pure TDM server, and your specious argument doesn't change that. The entire gamemode revolves around protecting or attacking the President, and any fights should stem from that. Ignoring the President and going to a random armor spawn or location on the map to have a dick-measuring contest has nothing to do with the gamemode. It's plainly obvious that the players who do this all the time are not doing it for the gamemode-- I see them blatantly ignoring the President all the time.
And by doing Cops vs Terrors we are acutally also part of the GM
Dosent matter how you twist it.
I don't say admins are completely lazy,they do their part on the forum and stuff,but they need developers.Those people would develop the server further,while the mods would take care of requests and rule breaks.Developers = people that know howto use the code properly and know howto make the whole PTP script by themselfs. Find somebody that can do everything that is on the plan B server right now and that guy will be called a developer.
.I think people would be interested in doing something else other that shooting and running.What the hell do you even think this gamemode is about?
If you have no other arguments,please let someone else say something,if that makes some sense and actually explains why they would (not) support my idea.Why support your idea?
I agree with you but for eliminating the clans, I highly dis-agree.
- The other day somebody mentioned that eliminating the clans would solve this issue. I don't think so. I really think that clans give a nice touch to the game.
I never said we need a different gamemode,I only suggested to make something like a lobby for people to have something to do when they are not fighting/playing the mode.
A GgT complaining about clan wars. *Oh the irony*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominemA GgT complaining about clan wars. *Oh the irony*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
I will ignore the fact that an admin of this server is telling me that my opinion is less valuable because I am part of a clan, even though I've never taken part of a single clan war. So not only my past actions qualify me to give this suggestion, but also the suggestion itself is supported by facts and other people.Sure you can understand the facts as it fits you.
You don't look very concerned and that's maybe another issue that we all forgot to mention: are admins even interested in changing the situation? :-\
PS: Still waiting for Jonne's take on this! :)
I will ignore the fact that an admin of this server is telling me that my opinion is less valuable because I am part of a clan, even though I've never taken part of a single clan war. So not only my past actions qualify me to give this suggestion, but also the suggestion itself is supported by facts and other people.One suggestion is to remove the useless admins who are setting a bad example to the community players by criticizing every single person who comes up with a different perspective in order to demand changes in the server.
A GgT complaining about clan wars. *Oh the irony*Let it be a constructive discussion. If you cannot contribute into this, you shouldn't reply either with your sarcastic comments.
One suggestion is to remove the useless admins who are setting a bad example to the community players by criticizing every single person who comes up with a different perspective in order to demand changes in the server.That's actually a good idea, I would add let's ban every hacker or cheater that harms/have harmed the server, permanently, without a chance of reconsideration.
Why? How am I not letting it be constructive discussion? How do you know I can't contribute to thise, and why can't I reply with sarcastic comments?A GgT complaining about clan wars. *Oh the irony*Let it be a constructive discussion. If you cannot contribute into this, you shouldn't reply either with your sarcastic comments.
One suggestion is to remove the useless admins who are setting a bad example to the community players by criticizing every single person who comes up with a different perspective in order to demand changes in the server.Agreed with both.Mods who cannot or,more likely,don't want to support progress or obstruct it,should be reconsidered about their position.
Let it be a constructive discussion. If you cannot contribute into this, you shouldn't reply either with your sarcastic comments.
That's actually a good idea, I would add let's ban every hacker or cheater that harms/have harmed the server, permanently, without a chance of reconsideration.I completely agree with this.Why even abolish the culprits who willingly hacked and cheated here?If someone was auto-banned due to some technical problems,and without an intention to benefit from the hack,they should be reconsidered.But,letting the old,known cheaters return is not good.I do not trust their getting mature.They will do it again,most likely.Once you hack to score better than the others without playing fair-and-square,you're banned forever.That would be my politics here.
I bet Tuco is pissed as he gets rekt during the war because of his tag xD
PS. It's a bad suggestion. -1
30 players now, no terrorist following duty.Jonne should create anothet server for clan wars, the same blue and red classes figthing each other on the same maps.
This morning at least two presidents disconnected due to the boredom: even with about 18-20 players, nobody was trying, so they just /q.
Probably they went to another server, whose title attracted them, and they probably spent the rest of the day there, having fun, because the ppl on that server were actually following the gamemode.
So, Jonne, if you are wondering why the server player's adquisition is so narrow, you have some more facts.
As for me,I usually play as a defender...that's why I use civilians at times.Who doesn't have a problem with playing certain classes should play as them,and not amass the number of civilians while there are only few cops/terrorists.There are three defending classes. The civilian class is not one of them. I agree with you that following the purpose/role of the class is important, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why you play as a "defender" civilian and consider that roleplay when the three defending classes exist and are much more effective for defense, while the role of civilians is undefined. It seems to me that if you really value roleplay, you should be playing as those defending classes and advocating limitations for the civilian class to encourage people to join the classes with defined roles-- correct me if I'm wrong.
I bet Tuco is pissed as he gets rekt during the war because of his tag xDI hope you're being sarcastic. Your comment in the context of this topic is like a scene in which the adults are debating the ethics of warfare or something, and you're busy crapping your diaper in your high chair, trying to start a food fight.
PS. It's a bad suggestion. -1
A GgT complaining about clan wars. *Oh the irony*What is the point of this comment? I've never understood why Tuco is in GgT, since he seems to exist outside of the clan, but that's beside the point. I have very little respect or patience for GgT or any of the clans at this point, but I do have a lot of respect for Tuco. He plays the GM more reliably than the great majority of the server, including you, from my experience. As of this post, you have played for 2511 hours, yet have only been President 22 times, out of which you survived twice. Even generously assuming that you survived for 14 minutes each time, you have played about 20 hours as President, or 0.8% of your time in the server.
[Rawr]Quido(95.05H, 7.6A) Terrorist Carg_BiB PoliceNot killing any regulars... just police. Then there's also the fact that when I think of you playing the game, it's hard not to think of you as a civilian, either killing random players or hanging out with a President friend and other civilians, killing his security and anyone coming to attack.
Carg_BiB(100H, 0A) Police BLACK_VADER Civilian
Carg_BiB(100H, 0A) Police Gustavo_316 Terrorist
Carg_BiB(100H, 0A) Police Tefogc Civilian
Carg_BiB(100H, 0A) Police (GERMANO)BR Terrorist
Tuco[GgT](95.05H, 100A) Security karaka TerroristFighting with regulars, different classes, just enjoying the gamemode. Playing as President isn't really compatible with the clan wars you mention, either.
Tuco[GgT] President
Tuco[GgT](100H, 100A) Security [ThuG]ZORO Civilian
Tuco[GgT] Security
[s2]notLions(100H, 100A) Terrorist Tuco[GgT] Security
...on the other hand, players like to do clan wars over playing the game mode. So this can also lead to loss of players.I don't understand why there are still people who don't get this after the many years of me saying it: players who leave who don't play the gamemode aren't losses when it comes to real gameplay, because they aren't contributing to it. If there are 4 players actually playing the GM, it won't matter if the other 40 players leave or if they weren't there to begin with, unless they start playing the gamemode. However, the other 40 players will annoy the other 4 and drive them away, while meanwhile contributing absolutely nothing to convince new players who actually play the GM to stay here. The SA-MP market is saturated with TDM servers, but our little GM is pretty unique. It is by emphasizing and celebrating the GM that we will attract and retain new players. It's not just that the gamemode is very fun when everyone is playing it-- without focusing on the GM, we're "just a TDM" with a somewhat toxic culture.
Ok first of all I do participate in those clan wars sometimes, because gamemode is really boring. Second get your math right. I have played 2511 hours from which 1256 hours I have spent on the civilian spawn afking or checking reports, I've spent hours every day for weeks checking regular hackers and trying to clear the server out of such so you don't have to deal with them. If you have ever seen me ingame, you would know that when I play the gamemode, I do kill everyone.A GgT complaining about clan wars. *Oh the irony*What is the point of this comment? I've never understood why Tuco is in GgT, since he seems to exist outside of the clan, but that's beside the point. I have very little respect or patience for GgT or any of the clans at this point, but I do have a lot of respect for Tuco. He plays the GM more reliably than the great majority of the server, including you, from my experience. As of this post, you have played for 2511 hours, yet have only been President 22 times, out of which you survived twice. Even generously assuming that you survived for 14 minutes each time, you have played about 20 hours as President, or 0.8% of your time in the server.
A little snapshot of your kills/deaths looks like this:Quote[Rawr]Quido(95.05H, 7.6A) Terrorist Carg_BiB PoliceNot killing any regulars... just police. Then there's also the fact that when I think of you playing the game, it's hard not to think of you as a civilian, either killing random players or hanging out with a President friend and other civilians, killing his security and anyone coming to attack.
Carg_BiB(100H, 0A) Police BLACK_VADER Civilian
Carg_BiB(100H, 0A) Police Gustavo_316 Terrorist
Carg_BiB(100H, 0A) Police Tefogc Civilian
Carg_BiB(100H, 0A) Police (GERMANO)BR Terrorist
Meanwhile, there's Tuco, who, assuming an average length of 7 minutes for his presidencies, has spent more than 25% of his time playing as President and has a snapshot like this:QuoteTuco[GgT](95.05H, 100A) Security karaka TerroristFighting with regulars, different classes, just enjoying the gamemode. Playing as President isn't really compatible with the clan wars you mention, either.
Tuco[GgT] President
Tuco[GgT](100H, 100A) Security [ThuG]ZORO Civilian
Tuco[GgT] Security
[s2]notLions(100H, 100A) Terrorist Tuco[GgT] Security
I appreciate all you do for the server, Carg, and I know that as an admin, you can't focus as much on the gamemode. However, pretending that Tuco doesn't play the game just because he has a GgT tag, particularly coming from you, is something I don't appreciate.
...just because I have only one regular in the snapshot you choose to post doesn't mean I'm not killing regulars, it means that there were only 2 regulars being terrorist and attacking the president while this was recorded. So I don't think you're being very objective about that.Using the snapshot was pretty reasonable for Tuco, because it looks like his normal gameplay. However, you're right, using the snapshot for you is somewhat unreasonable, but what you just wrote is fair game.
Ok first of all I do participate in those clan wars sometimes, because gamemode is really boring.You're an admin... of a server with a Protect the President gamemode. Maybe the gamemode is boring because no one else is playing it? It wasn't boring when most of the server actually followed the gamemode. It's a positive feedback loop-- the more people ignore the gamemode, the less interesting the gamemode is, so less people play the gamemode.
I don't like being president, since most of the times someone gets reported I'll have to check it and I can't do that while being president. But not just this, even before becoming admin I didn't like it being president, I always preferred to be police or security, sometimes terrorist.That's fair.
Second get your math right. I have played 2511 hours from which 1256 hours I have spent on the civilian spawn afking or checking reports, I've spent hours every day for weeks checking regular hackers and trying to clear the server out of such so you don't have to deal with them. If you have ever seen me ingame, you would know that when I play the gamemode, I do kill everyone.I don't know if you're trying very hard to refute my argument, but if you say that half the time is either AFK or report time, that doubles the percentage of time you've spent as President to only 1.6%. That was the best way I could come up with actual numbers-- if you want better stats, then we should have the amount of time spent playing each class and player stats for each class in the CP. That would actually emphasize the importance of the gamemode. Either way, the amount of time you've spent playing as President is a ridiculously small percentage of your total playing time, particularly considering that you need to have bit of experience playing as President to be good at the gamemode. I don't like playing as police or SWAT, but I know I've spent much more than around 0.8-1.6% of my time playing all the classes, regardless.
There are three defending classes. The civilian class is not one of them. I agree with you that following the purpose/role of the class is important, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why you play as a "defender" civilian and consider that roleplay when the three defending classes exist and are much more effective for defense, while the role of civilians is undefined. It seems to me that if you really value roleplay, you should be playing as those defending classes and advocating limitations for the civilian class to encourage people to join the classes with defined roles-- correct me if I'm wrong.Yes,I understand that the civilians can be pretty unpredictable unless they're known players,but...my reason for not playing as a "defender" is always unavailability to join them.The balance,so to say.Whenever I cannot join them,I go join the civilian class in order to help them.But,some do not appreciate that,and attack me without a reason,although I'm a known defender to whoever is a normal person on the server.I'd somehow make it punishable for those retards to attack civilians without a reason.If there were,like I said,two separate civilian classes (with neutral third),ones who would defend,and ones who would attack,and if their allies were not able to attack them,we'd stop the "statswhoring" problem,and making lame excuses for shooting civilians.
The things that this server need it is to remove Armour camping (except for civillians), Klan Warz, Chainsaw and Sniper, play the gamemode which is called Protect the President and Forcing all class to do their /duty.We need to remove the gamemode? What?
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The only way to solve Armour camping and Klan warz is
Removing Kills, Deaths and ratio from stats forever. i know it's weird "a TDM Server without Kills, Deaths and Ratio".
Or...
Another Solution is to count kills by:
Terrorist: If He/She kills the President or Securities near president not far away from president, same for Cop.
Cop: if He/She kills the Terrorist that trying to kill the President When He/She is near the President. Kills wont count if Terrorist and Cop is far from president and fighting each other.
Security: Same as Cop, If He/She kills the Terrorist that trying to kill the President When He/She is near the president.
Civillian: Kills won't count for Civillians (In My Opinion)
This is similar to the New score system and This would help.
For Armour camping:
In My Opinion Disallow Armour camping for all Classes except Civillians (Some Civillians like to get some fun there).
For Clan members should shoot their fellow members:
The only way to solve this is to make all Clan members in one class Not in opposing team.
The things that this server need it is to remove Armour camping (except for civillians), Klan Warz, Chainsaw and Sniper, play the gamemode which is called Protect the President and Forcing all class to do their /duty.
I don't understand. Where is "remove the gamemode"...?
Sure, maybe regulars who totally refuse to play the gamemode would leave. Who, out of the people who actually play, gives a shit? It won't matter to the gamemode. As it is, there might be 16 people in the server and maybe five are actually playing the GM while the rest are dueling or armor fighting. In terms of the gamemode, it doesn't matter if the remaining 11 leave. The same five people will still be playing.And I completely understand that point. But you also have to consider the ability to attract players. Players are a lot more likely to join a server that has 16 players, than one that has 5 players. So, in the first case, it will be a lot easier to go to 20 people, and having 4 additional people. With only 5 players, we'll struggle to get to 10 players. So, I don't think it's a good idea to just take measures that will drive those people away, instead we should encourage them to play the gamemode.
Dunno this server is ded u still wanna continue with it?
Yes, as long as there's people playing it, it's not dead.Das nice but then i wanna ask why im the only vip protecting the regular president like every 10 rounds?
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Cool story bro.
Clearly what you and your mates say adds up. Boohoo I just sucked at sniper against balanced weak civils here.
What the actual fu*k?
You guys are complaining of everything rather than enjoying the game by your ways. Dude, just go security and save the president, don't care about the rest. Yes, you are playing the gamemode and enjoying it now why do u want others to play it? Doesn't make logic, your whole complain is about "Why others do not play the gamemode". You shouldn't actually care about others as long as you are playing the gm. There are always at least 5-6 players playing the gm, half security and half terrorist, you can join either of the class. I did not understand your logic, why do u complain that others do not play the gm?
Second thing, I see some people complaining about civilians with sniper, first of all, sniper is granted to everyone so others can also counter attack using the sniper plus, civilian is the weakest class with all WW so giving them sniper will make them at least in others' level. Keep this aside, if u keep complaining of everything, then what is there to play ? I mean you are basically saying to remove the whole vip scenario from the game. You are trying to enforce your version of fun on everybody which is really stupid.
Whoever is against civilians using sniper idea means either that person can't use sniper or he is pretty retarded. My advice is go and watch some videos and learn something instead of whining here....
Cool story bro.
Clearly what you and your mates say adds up. Boohoo I just sucked at sniper against balanced weak civils here.
What are you trying to prove ? Remove sniper from civilians and disallow civilians gathering ? Because almost all the sniper hits were mine. Okay, I understand, the idea is very simple, have a security on your car and he can snip the other team back. If your security team can't do it then that doesn't mean we should remove the sniper.
Please lock the topic.
Fares, this is the new generation of ptp i guess xD
They don't want to adjust to the game, they want the game to adjust to their preferences. They're not like us, for us in old ptp it was you either adjust to the game and learn how to play it or you just don't play it. I remember the first few months i played in ptp back in 2010 i was getting f*ed by everyone in the server, but you know what i did, i didn't complain, i played the game until i learned a few tricks.
SO WORD OF ADVICE to you kids (because you're acting like whiny kids) Stop f*ing complaining, and start learning and coping with the game, you've already screwed the server with your genius suggestions :)
SA is such a deep skill game, with skill I can counter chainsaws, snipers, helikills , etc. all at once!
@Jonne you lying piece of shit how can new people leave and server count go low BEFORE VIP NERF if problem don't exist?!!
You just mad your cousin gets rekt ingame. Remove Slot Balance system too! Numerical value is irrelevant! Make PTP great again! All hail Lacerta!
Tuco, YoMama, Megapilot,etc stop complaining you newfags. I am sorry for suggesting a suggestion I never suggested. We toxic people only have 50 minutes of playtime and hide behind numbers :-(
Sorry for having a noob security that can't shoot 5 different attacking units at once!
Now i revived this topic because im sick of seing the ptp server empty because of you hairless apes who really f*ed it up with your genius suggestions.
On a serious note, I don't think both you deserve a proper response. 90% sure why Lowrider revived this topic because I was complaining ingame about orange server. I only had 1 short post before.
So much for complaining about 'newfags' that have more than 500+ average hours of gametime and don't fix 10 people to enjoy gamemde. Yet somehow cancers like Aking who will hunt you for what /duty you did 6 days ago and not breaking rules for him are ok I guess.
I wonder how long will it take to accuse me of some higher degree of stuff I never did. All cuz you grownass adults with more years than me can't face the hard fact when it happened 2 months ago before the VIP nerf.
It is the removal of sniper, right? (Bla Bla talk about me killing the playerbase with essay.exe)
Show me ONE suggestion where I suggested that? As per I recall the latest suggestion was AGAINST that.
I kinda agree after a bit of thinking about what you said.Pickups for sniper bullets sounds cool and yeah as you said, probably it will work.
Seriously, it is annoying to read a big article, try to summarize your points[ ??? ]
It shows that you want to adjust the server according to your preferences.
sniper and chainsaw have been granted to everybody, classes' free slot have been adjusted with respect to the balance of the game what else is there to fix?
So I don't understand your whole point of argument with that video you posted.
Only you and your kind's suggestions ruined this ENTIRE server, Everything was good BEFORE!!!
Le me being inactive + on/off from server cuz family member died and student deadlines. Inactive from January to June till this post https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=5332.0 (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=5332.0)
The last couple of months (december-april), we also noticed that the server was often empty or had a low playercount.[/color]
One of the biggest complaints we saw when people were leaving the server, was that this server was unfair, "pay-to-win", etc and that's somewhat understandable
Whaaat?
It is the removal of sniper, right?
Show me ONE suggestion where I suggested that? As per I recall the latest suggestion was AGAINST that.
then why the whole explanation ? People will just read the summary, none will both to read the whole article.
Unlike you, i didn't post big articles nor stupid arguments because if one chooses not to understand the point then it is useless to argue with.
The last couple of months (december-april), we also noticed that the server was often empty or had a low playercount.
One of the biggest complaints we saw when people were leaving the server, was that this server was unfair, "pay-to-win", etc and that's somewhat understandable
Show me ONE post where I suggested anything like that
hurr durr talk about me being active on forum 24/7 even tho I wasn't back then
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Cool story bro.
Clearly what you and your mates say adds up. Boohoo I just sucked at sniper against balanced weak civils here.
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Cool story bro.
Clearly what you and your mates say adds up. Boohoo I just sucked at sniper against balanced weak civils here.
This video of yours say everything
(https://i.ibb.co/NF2sDxn/Le1.png) (https://ibb.co/GdQ0Y73)
the saddest decision which ruined my childhood game is the lag compensation feature by the SA-MP team, things went downhill from there.Don't blame the SA-MP team, blame Tenshi for realizing that it made weapons that he liked OP and enabling it for the benefit of himself and other VIPs. Blame all the VIPs who didn't give a shit about balance when that happened and quietly solidified their advantages.
Don't blame the SA-MP team, blame Tenshi for realizing that it made weapons that he liked OP and enabling it for the benefit of himself and other VIPs. Blame all the VIPs who didn't give a shit about balance when that happened and quietly solidified their advantages.You said it all,my man,I hope everyone will get it,but I fear it is too late,now.
A few of us have been fighting the consequences of lagcomp ever since it was enabled, and not once has any real fix even been tried. "VIPs paid for it", "X weapon, which is now incredibly OP with lagcomp, has been part of the game since the beginning", "lagcomp is an upgrade, why would you downgrade?" and other horseshit coming out of the asshole-like mouths of many of our VIPs certainly didn't help. I don't mean to sound like I've got a martyr complex here, particularly because I wouldn't even fit the type-- that would imply that change has actually happened.
Instead of acknowledging how fucked up the server is, many of you fuckers have thrown any hints of change into the same longdrop into which you shat out what little respect you had for fairness and competition. Like a little cherry on top of pile of shit that you putzes have created and regularly roll around in, it seems the new shit being slung is that those of us who care about fairness and good competitive fun are trying to change the server for our own benefit. Meanwhile, many of the people fighting to keep the status quo are members of our fantastically toxic clans, which are the antithesis of fairness-- need I say more?
I wouldn't be sad about the decline of our player count if the toxic players were leaving, but I think most of us realize that it's the new players who are not staying. At this point, I don't blame them-- what do we have to offer? Empowered swinging dicks who use them as live target practice? Other servers have ripped off the core concepts of our gamemode but left out the toxicity. Would you play at this server if you were new, had no friends in the server, and couldn't buy VIP? I think most would find a fairer place to play.
Wake up. You dipshits are smothering what used to be one of the greatest servers of SA-MP with your own bullshit while you stand atop the steaming pile, huffing the fumes as if they were roses-- if you want this server to last, you're going to have to clean up the pile so new players don't vomit their way to another server.
You know, a smart man, after reading what Yomama posted, knowing how calm he is and everything else, should make a conclusion about it. Mental state of this community. Day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year. Same words, same posts, same threads. Without any progress for 8 years. It was retarded 6 years ago. It was presumptuously retarted 3 years ago. But now it is just, what, flatline?Woaaaaaaah woooooooah this forum missed you a lot dude. Glad to hear you back here.
And thats excatly why i made The Communist Party Of PTP .
Join it Comrade !