Plan B

Information => News & Updates => Topic started by: Jonne on August 07, 2016, 12:42:57 pm

Title: Plan B
Post by: Jonne on August 07, 2016, 12:42:57 pm
Hi all,

As you may have read, me and some other admins have left PTP. This will be our new server, independent of PTP. We left because we were tired of the way PTP was being run. Pretty much everyone got ignored, Tenshi just did what he thought was right (which was mostly nothing at all), without listening to anyone else. What I want to accomplish with this server, is to create a better alternative for the PTP community, where we'll actually listen to your input. So, if you think something is wrong with the server, or something can be improved, just make a suggestion. This can range from scripting suggestions to rule suggestions and so on.

Abuse was also a problem in PTP, but in this server, we will not tolerate any abuse. If you have any reports on staff members, they won't just be removed, we will look into it and investigate it. We won't promote people to admins just because they're friends of us. We'll do it like we did before, admins can suggest people, level 5's will have the final decision. This is how we always got the most capable people to be admins, and we'll keep it like this.

Once again, we're not moving here just because we want more power or money or something. The only thing we want is to create a better alternative for the community, not a server riddled with bugs and where you've got to wait half a year for something small to get fixed. Everyone is welcome, admins that were admin in PTP, can be admin here if they want it (except a few, of course, that's part of the reason why we're doing this), VIPs in PTP can be VIP here. No bans will be carried over (we don't have that database), so if you were ever banned, consider this a new chance (but if you do get banned again, we will take your history in account before making a decision). This will be a community-driven server, so if you ever think something is wrong with the server, or something should change, just tell us, we will listen.

A last message to Tenshi, I'm sorry it has to happen this way, but you've left us with no other option. I want to thank you for everything you did for this community, kept it alive for all these years, even if it went downhill these last years. You're part of the reason this community is still alive, it could have ended even before I started playing. But, it's 2016 now, over 10 years after PTP started, and people are still playing this game and that's mainly because of you. So, from all of the PTP community, thank you.

I can't think of anything else I should say here, so if you still have questions, just post them under here.

Jonne
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Miau on August 07, 2016, 05:43:58 pm
Awesome! it was time for something like this to happen :)
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Finisher on August 07, 2016, 07:32:46 pm
I knew this would come ever since the Beta was getting more players than the original. Jonne you're awesome, keep up the good work man. And thanks for this new PTP!

/me is back home<3
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Niks on August 07, 2016, 10:41:03 pm
Keep it up 👍👍
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Yash on August 08, 2016, 12:18:54 am
Keep it up 👍👍
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Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Storm on August 08, 2016, 01:59:32 am
This is great. Keep up the good work, Jonne!
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Punch. on August 08, 2016, 02:10:35 am
Thank you, Jonne!
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: JCannon on August 08, 2016, 02:32:00 am
Thanks for all of the work.  :) If I want to donate, will I be able to through this new site, or how would I go about it?
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Rev on August 08, 2016, 02:35:59 am
Support.
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: SwirlyMan on August 08, 2016, 06:48:56 am
Good Work! ;)
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: SoLoD on August 08, 2016, 10:14:06 am
The only thing i can say - it is not the best idea to split ptp community. This is not 2009, when there were 100+ players.

On the other hand, admins can see the situation from another point.

What i can recommend - do not make ptp v2.0. Make just another server with protect the vip gameplay. Another maps, hints, rules etc.
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Onii on August 08, 2016, 02:05:46 pm
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The only thing i can say - it is not the best idea to split ptp community.

ptp with tenshi and lacerta become peace of shit, regular player almost not come, server go down. When was problem admins cant handle with this, and ppl tired from bullshit some stuff. Best what possible was did, its save ptp community in new place.
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Arabiane on August 08, 2016, 05:22:31 pm
happy to see all the changes happening here (the sugestions - the new things in ptp ..)
you took the right decision :) .
hope to see ptp back to normal again .
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Gablo on August 08, 2016, 06:00:07 pm
The only thing i can say - it is not the best idea to split ptp community. This is not 2009, when there were 100+ players.

On the other hand, admins can see the situation from another point.

What i can recommend - do not make ptp v2.0. Make just another server with protect the vip gameplay. Another maps, hints, rules etc.

I think it's a good idea, we already can see the difference. The new server borught the old and regulars players back and it has more players than the ''other''
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: WuZi on August 08, 2016, 06:34:50 pm
Revolution!
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Finisher on August 08, 2016, 09:17:57 pm
Revolution!

Make PTP great again! #Jonne_4_President

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Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Alcor on August 08, 2016, 09:47:10 pm
great work with the scripting side, I went inactive as a player and an admin due to all the things mentioned above. I just feel sad that it has to come this way after all these years and memories in PTP. I do believe however that 90 percent of the previous PTP community members will move on to this one which should not change the atmosphere of the server.
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Miles on August 08, 2016, 11:11:02 pm
It's a good look.
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Spectre on August 08, 2016, 11:31:17 pm
Great idea by Jonne, and definitely the right thing to do. Tenshi's PTP is done, time for something new
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Finisher on August 08, 2016, 11:36:14 pm
Great idea by Jonne, and definitely the right thing to do. Tenshi's PTP is done, time for something new
I apologize for the miss-understanding earlier and the loads of nonsense, I was drunk.  :-X

/me gives free horses to everyone!
Cheers boyz
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: style! on August 09, 2016, 01:04:16 am
My opinion:

(As I said ig) Tenshi is/was a good owner, but only when he was available. Number of players always increased when he was 'in'. Also, he didn't managed well his admins (and I won't talk about bad admins because I don't have enough info).

The good thing of this, we will have improvements (and I recover my full nickname  :D). I was afraid Jonne's work was going nowhere. It was years ago since last suggestion was 'officially' accepted/rejected on PTP.
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Destiny on August 09, 2016, 06:05:22 pm
Good Work Jonne!!
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Tricky on August 09, 2016, 06:12:46 pm
I talked about this new server in the main chat of the 'old PTP' (like: hey have you heard of the new PTP?). You know what happened? Everyone got muted and the main chat was instantly cleared. Admin said in full screen mode the old server is the original one and the others are a fraud, full of hacker scum. I got muted for 10 minutes. Do the PTP admins of both servers really hate eachother that much?
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Spectre on August 09, 2016, 06:58:56 pm
I talked about this new server in the main chat of the 'old PTP' (like: hey have you heard of the new PTP?). You know what happened? Everyone got muted and the main chat was instantly cleared. Admin said in full screen mode the old server is the original one and the others are a fraud, full of hacker scum. I got muted for 10 minutes. Do the PTP admins of both servers really hate eachother that much?

Moral of the story: don't ask people about this server on the "old" PTP :P


Can we have a topic that will list all server rules? But please don't include ridiculous ones like before
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Jonne on August 09, 2016, 08:31:19 pm
Can we have a topic that will list all server rules? But please don't include ridiculous ones like before

Right, I still need to add that. I'll go through the rules with the admins first, so everyone is on the same page about everything, so it might take some time. For now, just stick with the /rules that you can view ingame.
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Aksel on August 09, 2016, 08:47:34 pm
finally something good happening in this community
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Altus_Demens on August 11, 2016, 02:57:50 pm
I'm very glad that it's finally done now. Jonne probably should've gone his own way a bit earlier, but I understand that it was very hard decision. But, again, absolutely right one.

Unlike others, I don't think that "ptp with tenshi and lacerta become peace of shit". I believe that every admin sincerely tried to make the server better in a way he personally saw it. Like said one character in the very interesting book written by my compatriot, "There are no traitors or cowards. I'd rather believe in resurrection that in a man who is able to commit a crime". At first I thought that PTP followed the right course. Armor camping was really a problem, and armor fighting prohibition looked like a really good solution. But in practice it turned out that this solution causes even more troubles. So it was better to exclude some situation than to punish everyone who's causing this situation. More of it, armor spawn fighting became a good pretext to deal with "unpleasant" to some admin guys and girls. I don't really think that Lacerta and others are that bad, probably they really did what they thought worthy to make PTP better, probably they really thought that Finisher, Ahmed, Mia and many, many others are great threat to the server. The problem is that it is not true.

So Jonne and Quido quickly convinced me that multiple armor spawns are better solution. Me & Litt tested it, and it is absolutely playable. We can fight whenever we want, there's no need to think if we are too close to spawn or not etc. And we are always able to get armor no matter how many players from other team oppose us. Along with "extravagant" staff problems, that's a reason too to go separate ways from Tenshi's PTP.

As for me, though, the biggest problem of old PTP was the athmosphere on the server. The general line that was induced by some staff members suggested low communication culture merged with endless insults, flaming, intolerant to criticism, ignoring the voices of common players. I have never met less harmonious community that PTP one. Months have passed before I talked with the first player like with friend. This was the fountainhead of all other problems. And here we've got our chance to change it. I've missed a lot last time, but I tried to read most informative topics, I looked into chat and it seems that things are going way better now! As Jonne stated, it should be community-driven server. So we all, every player, have a chance to create a brave new server (in direct meaning, not in Huxley's one :D). Let's use it!

In the meantime it is obvious that what Tenshi have done for this community is engraved on stone chronicle of the server until the end of time. And we just continue what he started, and for what he lost interest/time/motivation to maintain in good state.

Thanks for reading (or not reading, doesn't mean too much  :P), I've vented my feelings. ;D

P.S. I was lucky to randomly look at PTP forum exactly in time when the separation started. I've saved most of the demotion statements (not Khali's and some other's ones unfortunately) because they were nice in some means, I liked the style. So if anyone want to read them, just PM me.
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Miles on August 11, 2016, 05:56:40 pm
Wish I could see the new updates
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Tounsix on August 11, 2016, 07:33:05 pm
Finally! I been waiting for this for a while! Count me back in!
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: [RD]MecHaNiC on August 11, 2016, 08:09:06 pm
Good Work Jonne boi. :D
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Finisher on August 11, 2016, 09:02:43 pm
Finally! I been waiting for this for a while! Count me back in!
Jet said he missed you, and so do I ;-;
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Bellarabi on August 11, 2016, 09:28:44 pm
Nice JONNE :D
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: AhMeD on August 12, 2016, 07:40:41 am
All clans moved to the new ptp, good start.
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Tounsix on August 13, 2016, 02:19:43 am
Is lacerta perm banned here yet? Say yes please.
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Onii on August 13, 2016, 02:50:30 am
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Is lacerta perm banned here yet? Say yes please.
better dont) it will be awesome if he will join, no need be like they))

P.S. + he have another fun in game mode, you know like armour garder, simple playing not for him)
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Finisher on August 13, 2016, 06:30:03 am
Is lacerta perm banned here yet? Say yes please.

I don't think he will ever join this server which is good.

Nice signature Touny!!  :)
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Tounsix on August 13, 2016, 07:49:08 am
Well,Just a little reminder of lacerta : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8WH0DcSIx4
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Miles on August 13, 2016, 01:02:55 pm
Well,Just a little reminder of lacerta : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8WH0DcSIx4
The music video made that so much funnier  ;D
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Spectre on August 13, 2016, 03:58:55 pm
Well,Just a little reminder of lacerta : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8WH0DcSIx4

Ah, good times... :D
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: DrPepper on August 15, 2016, 09:15:26 am
Just stopping by to say good job Jonne :D
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Unicorn on October 05, 2016, 03:07:53 pm
Cool,,
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Azzy Kings on October 10, 2016, 06:11:04 pm
Awesome! it was time for something like this to happen :)

I heard you're really a guy lol is that true?

Also long live this community regardless of what name it is under.
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: flabed9 on November 20, 2016, 08:46:14 pm
Hi. I want the full story. All details.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Spectre on November 20, 2016, 09:47:58 pm
Hi. I want the full story. All details.
Thanks.

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Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Finisher on November 20, 2016, 09:56:15 pm
Hi. I want the full story. All details.
Thanks.
Lacerta was banning people for jumping on cars at armor but the server couldn't handle it and died along ptpmp.net so Jonne started PlanB after that and here we are, make sure you tell your kids this story before going to bed to bring good luck and sweet dreams
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Comet on December 18, 2016, 09:02:57 am
Hi. I want the full story. All details.
Thanks.
Lacerta was banning people for jumping on cars at armor but the server couldn't handle it and died along ptpmp.net so Jonne started PlanB after that and here we are, make sure you tell your kids this story before going to bed to bring good luck and sweet dreams
Hahahah
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: MegaPilot on July 21, 2017, 07:27:25 pm
I talked about this new server in the main chat of the 'old PTP' (like: hey have you heard of the new PTP?). You know what happened? Everyone got muted and the main chat was instantly cleared. Admin said in full screen mode the old server is the original one and the others are a fraud, full of hacker scum. I got muted for 10 minutes. Do the PTP admins of both servers really hate eachother that much?

Moral of the story: don't ask people about this server on the "old" PTP :P


Can we have a topic that will list all server rules? But please don't include ridiculous ones like before
I know I'm asking this a bit late: is the old PTP still up? I can remember googling PTPMP and not finding anything for some months...It's by accident that I ended up here(so glad that I did btw, so nice to see so many guys remembering me after all this time).
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Uthar_Smith on July 21, 2017, 07:48:47 pm
The old PTP has been offline for almost a year now.. It went offline about a month after Plan B officially launched
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Rev on July 22, 2017, 01:19:14 pm
The old PTP has been offline for almost a year now.. It went offline about a month after Plan B officially launched

That saddens me. Even knowing it was rather inevitable.
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: SaiFi on February 25, 2018, 01:44:05 pm
Keep it up
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: .Faruk. on May 10, 2018, 11:47:56 am
Keep it up
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: cobby on May 29, 2018, 04:36:01 pm
Good suggestion jonne
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: Zeta on June 07, 2018, 06:27:07 pm
So good :)
Title: Re: Plan B
Post by: SoLoD on August 02, 2018, 06:53:45 pm
I`ve said it before: think again about what you said here, think again about what you did during these 2 years and think again about taking some of your words back.