Plan B

General => Suggestions => Closed => Topic started by: Singh on December 05, 2019, 03:59:06 am

Title: Making PTP alive
Post by: Singh on December 05, 2019, 03:59:06 am
Since we all know that PTP is being Going To dead so Its Our Reaponsibility To make It Back Alive.so these are Some Suggestion Which You Can Use If You Want.
1. I Think We Need To Advertise The Plan B more.We Can Make a Seperate Youtube Channel Where all Player Give Their gameplay Videos and admins will Upload it on Youtube and also make a Trailer for PTP.I Think This Will help something.

2 Now We all Have Discord Server Plan B But It not Look Like a  server so its also a responsibility for making Quality Discord Server,as People will Like Quality, Plan B Discord Server has many members but they always offline because of not a Quality Discord Server.
3.Regular Updates of PTP is very essential, Season Updates like here is season of Cristmas so Update related to this season as Previous year had done.

4.There Must be a special ability for President such as, give President a SMG Weapon so He can Kill through car ,as it becomes very difficult for president
To kill through Deagle only in front of Shotguners,Tec-9 etc.

5.Jonne  can less the player capacity as it never goes to 96 players,so he can pay for less,if however He can Increase later if Looks to getting full.

These are some suggestion  Hope you like it.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Srex_Zangetsu on December 08, 2019, 08:22:47 pm
Agreed.
We need more advertising.But,I feel like it should primarily be admins' duty.And since they are not active except for few mods,that only stays up to us.
I don't really have use from the Discord server,overall.Except if we all voice chat while playing,that could be fun.
Updates truly need to be somewhat often.I don't know when the last one was.There's a ton of bugs that need to be fixed,glitches...nothing is being done,the way I see it.
Hmm yeah,that wouldn't make sense roleplay wise,but president's weapons are somewhat useless against spamming enemies.In my opinion,dual weapons should be devolved to single,and sniper removed.Saw could stay,and sniper would only appear during the holidays or whatever.But no,"vIpS gOt ThEm As BoNuS" - who cares.Remove it from the game completely,and we can have fun.The game is kind of ruined when a single shot can take about 40 dmg,everyone will spam it and there's no fun and/or challenge.The snipers will have an advantage,while the other players will be forced to dodge or engage in the type of a combat where they don't feel suitable.
Idk about lessening the capacity,or how it would affect the game.But yeah,we never reach that mark.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: PakoVH on December 08, 2019, 11:59:45 pm
Agreed.
We need more advertising.But,I feel like it should primarily be admins' duty.And since they are not active except for few mods,that only stays up to us.
I don't really have use from the Discord server,overall.Except if we all voice chat while playing,that could be fun.
Updates truly need to be somewhat often.I don't know when the last one was.There's a ton of bugs that need to be fixed,glitches...nothing is being done,the way I see it.
Hmm yeah,that wouldn't make sense roleplay wise,but president's weapons are somewhat useless against spamming enemies.In my opinion,dual weapons should be devolved to single,and sniper removed.Saw could stay,and sniper would only appear during the holidays or whatever.But no,"vIpS gOt ThEm As BoNuS" - who cares.Remove it from the game completely,and we can have fun.The game is kind of ruined when a single shot can take about 40 dmg,everyone will spam it and there's no fun and/or challenge.The snipers will have an advantage,while the other players will be forced to dodge or engage in the type of a combat where they don't feel suitable.
Idk about lessening the capacity,or how it would affect the game.But yeah,we never reach that mark.
Yeah Srex, remove sniper, remove dual weapons, fix all  the bugs in just 24 hours, remove the admins that you dislike, remove VIPs and everything that you dislike only because you say that, you are the "king" here, you should be managing this server to prevent cheaters, rule breakers and players that YOU DISLIKE,
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Tochy on December 09, 2019, 09:24:37 am
No, I want ptp to die
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Ege on December 09, 2019, 09:44:07 am
Hmm yeah,that wouldn't make sense roleplay wise,but president's weapons are somewhat useless against spamming enemies.

I am glad that you sort of figured it out yourself but let me say it once more: President is not supposed to fight, however his weapons (I'll include saw and sniper in this case as everyone has access to these as well) are more than enough not to leave him completely defenseless in emergency cases. So it is president's own stupidity if he decides to involve in a fight with the spamming enemies and die but hey, don't we deal with clueless presidents everyday in the server? I don't know what "spamming enemies" is btw, but teams are often well-balanced except when the player count is too low so you should consider improving either your skills or tactics as a team instead of changing the server features to handle the enemies.

In my opinion,dual weapons should be devolved to single

I don't know how devolving dual weapons would make anything better. Both dual weapons (or running weapons) and walking weapons have advantages over each others in different cases. With running weapons you get more mobility and high rate of fire (with sawns it is more damage/low rate of fire and longer reload time) while you have pure damage and more range with walking weapons. So devolving the dual weapons would just screw the balance between RW and WW and someone would probably end up in the forums complaining about how unfair it is to use WW against RW (And I wouldn't be surprised if it would be you again)

and sniper removed.Saw could stay,and sniper would only appear during the holidays or whatever.But no,"vIpS gOt ThEm As BoNuS" - who cares.Remove it from the game completely,and we can have fun.The game is kind of ruined when a single shot can take about 40 dmg,everyone will spam it and there's no fun and/or challenge.The snipers will have an advantage,while the other players will be forced to dodge or engage in the type of a combat where they don't feel suitable.

Yeah, vips got them as a bonus but you got them for free. Again you are offering to remove them instead of improving your skills or developing tactics for the occasions where you have to use it. I feel like these suggestions are nothing but a desperate attempt to make the game easier for low-skilled players which would ruin the challenge of the game. Or even worse maybe just to remove things that doesn't go in your way in particular. From my observations I can tell you use saw in more occasions and probably more efficiently compared to sniper. So you're suggesting to remove sniper but telling saw to stay, which is awkwardly sync'ed, can damage players through walls and its efficiency heavily relies on lag and FPS (in short way more abusable than any other existing weapon in the server). That kinda proves my point.

TL;DR: I can't disagree more with any of your suggestions.

Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Srex_Zangetsu on December 09, 2019, 01:41:20 pm
No,I just want to balance things.And I haven't seen YOU or anyone else do anything in a while.I never said "24 hours",but it's taking too long and y'all been buzzing around doing nothing.And seeing that you are a mod or whatever kind of explains it.
As for the president not fighting...I know.But he's kind of useless with the regular weapons that he has.But I'm not sure which ones he should be given...colt would be good but he can't drive-by with it and all...
Spamming enemies are the ones that can spam numerous bullets (uzi) or damage over a wide area (spas),while the president can only use single shots and therefore he's weak against those who can shoot automatically.
No,I disagree,if the weapons were single-handed,that would require more effort to actually win,instead of using same old stupid tricks to spam a bunch of bullets and win because of it,plus it's probably harder to detect aimbots when you shoot so many bullets at once.And no,there wouldn't be imbalance,the sawnoff would be reduced to single-handed too.So SPAS would remain op,still.
And if you're so skilled at shooting,you'll do well with a rifle too,which we "regulars" don't have.But no,y'all wanna rely on better graphics than the others,and win because your pc can handle draw distance and whatnot.
But tell me,also,how would "making the game easier for low-skilled players" actually ruin anything?Wouldn't that be true equality?Wasn't that the actual goal?Why would anyone have any sort of advantage over the others?Why would people good at Hydra have an advantage over me who am,say,better with Hunter?Or why would people who play as snipers in all games have that advantage while I,say,prefer to have bazooka?It's playing at their court,yes,why would that happen?If not removing,some weapons' damage should be decreased,alright.
As for the saw,it doesn't prove your point.I use the sniper more,and rely more on it,and I only rely on the saw when I cannot keep up with uzis or such.I'm not relying on bad fps,since mine is among the best,and no one has ever complained about me lagging other than myself.So no,that's not it.Like I said,admins should fix the saw,and that would be the best outcome.Even my saw dmg fails sometimes,and you can't say I'm its best user on the server.Furthermore,I can't shoot you with it from 1km distance,even twice in one second,.which is ridiculous.*Poof* 80 dmg taken in such a short time.I'm sure,if you're being honest,that you'll admit that sniper's sync is bad too.You can successfully evade the opponent's shot and still get hit,ONLY because they hit you on their screen.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Ege on December 09, 2019, 02:29:37 pm
1- I am not a mod, I am just a regular player. Being a VIP or not does not matter in this case. Also I'd like to know when I was buzzing around. I haven't spoken about the server at all for a long period of time. I am not even that much active nowadays but I've played in this server enough to understand how things work. (10 years is enough I assume?)
2- President MUST be useless on his own against the enemies, that's the point. His team should be protecting him. But still, with the weapons he has right now he can defend himself to some extent as well. Just for your information, president used to have Colts back in the day and I wouldn't mind having if they replace deagle (better not though) but they would not give him any more advantage than deagle does.
3- It would take more time, but I doubt it would actually require more effort. What you call tricks are mostly how they should be used. You can't use most of the weapon bugs as they are forbidden here. Allowed ones aren't even worth complaining about them anyway. If dual wield weapons would be downgraded to single wield then weapons like SPAS would be too op (even you said it yourself, I don't know why you think it'd be a good idea)
4- There's a difference between making it fair for everyone and making it easy. The only advantage some players have over others is the skills, which players spend weeks, months and years to improve. You cannot just try to change things because you get outplayed by better players, things don't work that way.
5- I didn't say YOU are relying on FPS or anything, but it doesn't change the fact that saw actually does. The only thing admins can change is to switch it's damage system to absolute skinhit (so you have to aim directly on skin to damage), which they did, and you can see how everyone was complaining about it as this time you were away from the saw in your screen yet you could still take damage from it even while sprinting away. Saw cannot be fully fixed, it will be buggy af one way or another.
6- I did not say sniper is perfectly synced either. Honestly you are expecting too much from a 15 year-old-game.
7- Having a good PC and/or connection does give you advantage, just like in every other game out there. Today I probably have one of the better setups among the players, not the best either. But I've played this game with many different setups from a potato laptop to PC's with spaceship-like specs and I've always been able to maintain a certain level of gameplay so again, you cannot ask to change how this server works because of things that are out of admins/owners' hands.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Singh on December 09, 2019, 04:13:10 pm
Agreed.
We need more advertising.But,I feel like it should primarily be admins' duty.And since they are not active except for few mods,that only stays up to us.
I don't really have use from the Discord server,overall.Except if we all voice chat while playing,that could be fun.
Updates truly need to be somewhat often.I don't know when the last one was.There's a ton of bugs that need to be fixed,glitches...nothing is being done,the way I see it.
Hmm yeah,that wouldn't make sense roleplay wise,but president's weapons are somewhat useless against spamming enemies.In my opinion,dual weapons should be devolved to single,and sniper removed.Saw could stay,and sniper would only appear during the holidays or whatever.But no,"vIpS gOt ThEm As BoNuS" - who cares.Remove it from the game completely,and we can have fun.The game is kind of ruined when a single shot can take about 40 dmg,everyone will spam it and there's no fun and/or challenge.The snipers will have an advantage,while the other players will be forced to dodge or engage in the type of a combat where they don't feel suitable.
Idk about lessening the capacity,or how it would affect the game.But yeah,we never reach that mark.

Remove sniper will not gonna make much improvement ,Sniper is now access to all players so they can use too.It was a time when it was bad when only VIP can spawned it but  now its become better.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Ahsoka_Tano on December 09, 2019, 05:28:25 pm
I dont remember civilians having snipers
Security having sawnoff shotungs
and terorists having combat shotguns as theyr primary weapon.

The problem isnt in the gamemode its in the players that want to keep it as they like it with 0 players as they like to kill newbies that have to learn to use snipers and saws when they came to play the gamemode.
My personal opinion is find a server which aims to make a gamemode Protect the President instead of here as this is mostly a dueling server.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Brian_Walker on December 10, 2019, 04:50:01 pm
No, I want ptp to die

Same..
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: The iBen on December 11, 2019, 12:17:54 pm
Ok, so imma butt into this discussion.

Bruh so I think I started playing PTP in 2013, back then the community was great. People was playing the game properly, clans was about people belonging into a group of people etc. It was great when the culture of players was about the game mode and just chilling out. Look I know as a community, we had issues but we managed to overcame it. For an example, some douchbag DDosing and some douch cloning PTP and he was from Uk (What's his name, I forgot lol). Then scandals happened with players and admins during Tenshi's time, then there was a bus tour company that went bust.

From time to time I visit forums to check what you guys up to ever since I retired admin duties and this community. I have witnessing that the culture has changed and numbers are low. From what I think

1. People are moving on.
2. SAMP getting old
3. Culture of players
4. game mode got boring

PTP back in Tenshi time was a known server, other big servers owners knew Tenshi. For an example, Tenshi looked after another big server by some straya (Australian) dude. Tenshi never bothered to look after that and it ended up dead and many of its players quit. Admins from other big servers sometimes requested data from Tenshi about a person. PTP was cool back then with great people but now the culture of the community has got off. There are people in this post saying that this place should die, bruh.

Let's have a talk about what's driving people away and how as a community bring them back and look at players retention.

What drove me away?

Got bored and had a life.


If you want to talk to me in private about this or want to say hi, pm me or fb me.

End of my rant, also Herro there. how's life?
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Lizard_Person on December 11, 2019, 02:51:58 pm
It would be better to drag the server behind a bar, load one bullet into it and move one.

While many great memories were made in the server, it is time for it to retire. The regulars have either left, when they were heroes, or became cancer spreading players. Either way, the server is dying. Slowly, but still dying.

What I propose is to, on the last day, throw a big party in the server. Jetpacks, hunters, whatever, and rampage across the whole map, while chasing the president, who will be Jonne.
RIP PTP
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Carg on December 11, 2019, 05:26:19 pm
It would be better to drag the server behind a bar, load one bullet into it and move one.

While many great memories were made in the server, it is time for it to retire. The regulars have either left, when they were heroes, or became cancer spreading players. Either way, the server is dying. Slowly, but still dying.

What I propose is to, on the last day, throw a big party in the server. Jetpacks, hunters, whatever, and rampage across the whole map, while chasing the president, who will be Jonne.
RIP PTP
PTP's last day or your last day in the server?
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Haunter on December 11, 2019, 06:14:47 pm
Join more frequently, bingo.  ;D

I see a lot of people complain about "no updates for 9 months...whatever". This is a dedicated server solely towards one type of game-mode - 'Protect the President', in comparison to free-roam, RP or anything else that has no limitations of updates and new features, here you need to be decisive even about the smallest features or updates there are to add - anything can cause an imbalance, disadvantage or a distraction to the game-mode. That's mostly why you don't see updates every day.

In my opinion, there couldn't be anything necessary that could be added to start with, there's only one concept and despite not wanting any distractions towards it, there are plenty of non-game-mode related things to do (dueling, racing, events.. etc).

What kind of update would you really want? There's a suggestions section primarily for people to 'suggest' however they prefer to moan on the other boards with no rational reason to, and as for the current suggestions none of them are of which (in my opinion) "game-changing": recent one being to add a knife.

Change your mentality, suggest whatever you wish to but I'm sick of hearing the community lamenting towards ridiculously moronic slurs and topics like these, it's already been long alive and will continue to be so as long as you want it to be, as a community.


Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Srex_Zangetsu on December 11, 2019, 06:36:04 pm
I don't think SAMP is dying just yet.It's true that our server doesn't have too many players overall.But I've seen others have many more.We only need attract more people,and somehow keep them playing.Not focus on "the game dying".It's not dead.Even today,people play GTA SA.They play SAMP too.The game is still quite popular,and therefore still has room to live.We only need to make big improvements,and keep the new players playing.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Lizard_Person on December 11, 2019, 06:43:19 pm
It would be better to drag the server behind a bar, load one bullet into it and move one.

While many great memories were made in the server, it is time for it to retire. The regulars have either left, when they were heroes, or became cancer spreading players. Either way, the server is dying. Slowly, but still dying.

What I propose is to, on the last day, throw a big party in the server. Jetpacks, hunters, whatever, and rampage across the whole map, while chasing the president, who will be Jonne.
RIP PTP
PTP's last day or your last day in the server?
PTP's
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Deadman on December 13, 2019, 06:55:02 am
I think jonne should discuss with their staff team about reviving the gamemode with some new features. Maybe the gamemode got boring (as iBen explained). We need something new which will be very different from the current gamemode but represents the insignia "Protect the President".
Herro there!
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Brian_Walker on December 13, 2019, 11:24:49 am
I think jonne should discuss with their staff team about reviving the gamemode with some new features. Maybe the gamemode got boring (as iBen explained). We need something new which will be very different from the current gamemode but represents the insignia "Protect the President".
Herro there!

I can help
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: The iBen on December 13, 2019, 01:00:53 pm
I think jonne should discuss with their staff team about reviving the gamemode with some new features. Maybe the gamemode got boring (as iBen explained). We need something new which will be very different from the current gamemode but represents the insignia "Protect the President".
Herro there!

Bruh, I love your attitude.

I was thinking returning for a bit but when I saw low numbers, like 10 wish. It wasn't worth my time and also (Matt would love this) I have an iMac now to replace my ageing pc. What Jonne and everyone could do is reform the game mode. Like look at changing things to make the mode better. I mean common, all we do is protect or hunt down the president. Maybe change how the game work but without changing the objective of the mode. This game was fun back in the day, do you people remember that I did stupid things? Like camp on that bridge near terror spawn in RC? or camp somewhere dumb in LV? everyone seems to camp at a regular spot when they become trump. I got a few ideas that could help

1. okay I know people hate big ass maps like NSA, so why not chop two maps in half and combine them. For an example, chop RC and LS in half and combine them? (I'm so smart, why didn't anyone think of this when complaining about maps?)

2. Reform the roles/class, Who here goes swat class?

3. reform VIP. (okay people will hate me for suggesting this)

4. reforms admins and duty (Okay its great that you have an admin policy but we could look at reforming the duties and responsibilities of admins, have an operational admin who handles operations of the service when Jonne is away or something. just a thought)

5. as a community, lets look at having a strategic plan or an improvement plan for the community and the game mode and review it like once a year or something. Have a committee where they do this. (okay I so I know people just want to play but the members of the community and admins could do this.)


Thats just ideas but I know we all have a life and stuff. But I like this community, that's why I stuck around long. so people, post why it's boring, sucks etc and as a community we can see what's wrong and fix it.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Deadman on December 13, 2019, 05:19:53 pm
I think jonne should discuss with their staff team about reviving the gamemode with some new features. Maybe the gamemode got boring (as iBen explained). We need something new which will be very different from the current gamemode but represents the insignia "Protect the President".
Herro there!

Bruh, I love your attitude.

I was thinking returning for a bit but when I saw low numbers, like 10 wish. It wasn't worth my time and also (Matt would love this) I have an iMac now to replace my ageing pc. What Jonne and everyone could do is reform the game mode. Like look at changing things to make the mode better. I mean common, all we do is protect or hunt down the president. Maybe change how the game work but without changing the objective of the mode. This game was fun back in the day, do you people remember that I did stupid things? Like camp on that bridge near terror spawn in RC? or camp somewhere dumb in LV? everyone seems to camp at a regular spot when they become trump. I got a few ideas that could help

1. okay I know people hate big ass maps like NSA, so why not chop two maps in half and combine them. For an example, chop RC and LS in half and combine them? (I'm so smart, why didn't anyone think of this when complaining about maps?)

2. Reform the roles/class, Who here goes swat class?

3. reform VIP. (okay people will hate me for suggesting this)

4. reforms admins and duty (Okay its great that you have an admin policy but we could look at reforming the duties and responsibilities of admins, have an operational admin who handles operations of the service when Jonne is away or something. just a thought)

5. as a community, lets look at having a strategic plan or an improvement plan for the community and the game mode and review it like once a year or something. Have a committee where they do this. (okay I so I know people just want to play but the members of the community and admins could do this.)


Thats just ideas but I know we all have a life and stuff. But I like this community, that's why I stuck around long. so people, post why it's boring, sucks etc and as a community we can see what's wrong and fix it.
......if and only if the people of PTP allow to have some changes here which is impossible as most of them will not agree on something. Let Jonne take the actions as its his server after all. He should take some serious steps after watching the downfall in players count. If I were him, I would have done something good with the server to revive it back to it's feet.
Better late than never though. Lets hope Jonne have some ideas on this one.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Srex_Zangetsu on December 13, 2019, 05:52:36 pm
I agree on most changes though.It's the others that inert the progress.Voting should be irrelevant,actually.Or admin opinions.If they see that something new can be done,which will be beneficial to the gamemode either major or minor,let them do it.See,the seasonal decorations,hat and all...that all brought a little bit of change into the server.It's more fun playing now.Maybe some things could permanently stay,like the /santahat.Or some new accessories can be brought in.The changes need not be all that big.Just give us something new,that's all.And don't be like,how Jonne or others usually explain "I don't see how this can improve the game" or smth like that.Changes are changes.Maybe not always necessarily positive;but still,things should be tried out.It's easy deleting them afterwards,if they ruin the play.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: jimbi on December 15, 2019, 07:11:31 am
All things considered, we should just ban low intelect creep like safi which is hated by 95 % server players. And actually all mouse rapers. I'm feeling sorry for them, the game with normal players like GSW, RD, DsE clanmates would be rational and well balanced.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Carg on December 15, 2019, 11:13:47 am
the game with normal players like GSW
Oh the irony :D
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Srex_Zangetsu on December 17, 2019, 11:36:29 am
I have an idea of what should be done,but won't make a suggestion post since admins and my opponents don't give a fuck about what I say.
I had an idea that enemy markers should be removed from map.Secs would see only secs/cops/swat,terros would only see other terros,civs would see civs,and everyone would see BOTH president and vice on the map,both marked with the same kind of marker,yellow.That way,all the forces attacking/defending would be split in two.The terrorists would have to determine which one is the president and then inform the others.Also,people wouldn't be able to whine anymore about vice being invisible.That would add to the challenge of the game,people wouldn't be able to know where specific people are so there would be less duels.Armor zones would have limit of staying,and people would have to leave them after that or start losing health.If you all want to fix the gamemode,this should be done,in my opinion.We need to stop the gang wars,which was determined long ago.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Scott_ on December 17, 2019, 03:30:59 pm
I have an idea of what should be done,but won't make a suggestion post since admins and my opponents don't give a fuck about what I say.
I had an idea that enemy markers should be removed from map.Secs would see only secs/cops/swat,terros would only see other terros,civs would see civs,and everyone would see BOTH president and vice on the map,both marked with the same kind of marker,yellow.That way,all the forces attacking/defending would be split in two.The terrorists would have to determine which one is the president and then inform the others.Also,people wouldn't be able to whine anymore about vice being invisible.That would add to the challenge of the game,people wouldn't be able to know where specific people are so there would be less duels.Armor zones would have limit of staying,and people would have to leave them after that or start losing health.If you all want to fix the gamemode,this should be done,in my opinion.We need to stop the gang wars,which was determined long ago.
About president invisibility..
https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=2355.0#top
About armour camp..
https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=4879.0

And please just because of clan war server is alive, it just like real world president minding his own business and terrorist being evil and attacking civils and cop, in real world all the terrorist does not target president always. Before suggesting please go through the previous suggestions.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Deadman on December 17, 2019, 05:52:09 pm
Sounds good to me srex.
And I think no armour camping should be brought back just like last time as cool down time still doesn't give that much effect which was supposed to give. Combo of no armour camping and cool down time will settle things up if my assumption goes right.
About the visibility of Vice and invisibility of terrors, lets give it a try as this sounds more interesting and will be a surprising challenge for both the ends (either protectors or terrors).
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Singh on December 18, 2019, 03:28:05 am
I have an idea of what should be done,but won't make a suggestion post since admins and my opponents don't give a fuck about what I say.
I had an idea that enemy markers should be removed from map.Secs would see only secs/cops/swat,terros would only see other terros,civs would see civs,and everyone would see BOTH president and vice on the map,both marked with the same kind of marker,yellow.That way,all the forces attacking/defending would be split in two.The terrorists would have to determine which one is the president and then inform the others.Also,people wouldn't be able to whine anymore about vice being invisible.That would add to the challenge of the game,people wouldn't be able to know where specific people are so there would be less duels.Armor zones would have limit of staying,and people would have to leave them after that or start losing health.If you all want to fix the gamemode,this should be done,in my opinion.We need to stop the gang wars,which was determined long ago.
Wow!This is great idea,i think it must be try.+1
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Srex_Zangetsu on December 18, 2019, 05:54:05 pm
Sorry,I don't have that much free time to waste on other suggestions,and I never said the president should be invisible.I said that vice should stop being invisible on the map,and that him and the president should both have a yellow marker each,so the terrorists would have to chase both to determine which one is the right one.Plus it resembles the "Bait" mission in the original name,or whatever the name of the mission was.
Second thing second,clan wars should be stopped.It's been a problem for quite long.We need to have people engage in the gamemode.Or do you fear the server you're leading will die out if people stop doing what they want?What kind of authority are you if you're letting the players do as they please just because the player count is usually small?
And as for the invisibility of players on the map,it's more challenging to always focus on the surroundings,rather than everyone being invisible,which is unrealistic irl. Plus we'd be letting people chase after specific targets,which is another form of clan wars.It's more fun to always aim and try to notice the assaulters. That can add to the element of surprise.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Airman on December 18, 2019, 07:50:21 pm
Imagine having 8 Vices at the same time , they would be able to destroy everyone without anybody noticing them.
That's why making opposite team's markers invisible on the map would not be a good idea
Though it would be better if enemy team's markers are invisible only when they are far away except for the presi ofc

Sorry,I don't have that much free time to waste on other suggestions
You can use the search (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?action=search) feature , it's fast & simple :)
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Srex_Zangetsu on December 20, 2019, 11:37:02 am
Not really,since we have snipers and all,we could always stay on guard.If people zoomed around,they'd be able to see if someone's coming.And communication between players would be of greater importance then.Well,maybe it is a bad idea,but haven't even tried it yet. :P
As for search...I'll think about it.Thanks.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: cobby on February 01, 2020, 06:05:57 am

5.Jonne  can less the player capacity as it never goes to 96 players,so he can pay for less,if however He can Increase later if Looks to getting full.


The way your thinking about Jonne
paying for the host is completely wrong.

The player capacity in the server matters nothing to host. It means that they hosters
don't ask money for player capacity/count.
They just want money for keeping the server online 24/7.

Hence, Reducing the capacity won't profit
anyone and this just would be a bad idea.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: kABUSE on February 04, 2020, 12:16:43 pm
Hello,

Last time I played was under Tenshi's tyranny like 5 years ago and I started playing again 2-3 days ago.
As a long time player from the past (aka a time-traveler) I would like to leave my two cents here:

I couldn't imagine the server to become any more lame and toxic than it used to be 5 years ago, but man was I wrong. Not talking about a lot of flaming and disrespect in the main-chat but rather about the play-style most players are using. If you really want to make this server popular again, you have to make it less toxic and more enjoyable.

I am most explicitly not blaming the players for their play-style. The players only adapted their behavior to the current game mechanics and, the same way as it always was, certain players are using and abusing the current mechanics to the max in order to pad their stats.

Currently it is strongly promoted to camp rather than chase dynamically. In a nutshell, the player that plays more lame wins and the president can only survive if he is being protected by a large group. When being chased while alone, one tiny error or popped tire and it's over, you can't get back into another vehicle alive. And with skin-hit and M4 from the passengers-seat, it really doesn't take much skill to pop a tire.

So what could you do?

- Disable damage when entering a vehicle, like it used to be
- Stop giving everyone free chainsaws
- Stop giving everyone free snipers
- Stop giving sawn-off shotguns only to the defending team, paired with skin-hit this is incredibly unfair

Without any further insight, the server looks as if the lamest campers of all time ended up telling the main dev what to do, adapting the server to increase survivability of on-foot players and to make it a lot more easy to chase the president down, if he isn't hiding with 5 people protecting him. I hope that's not what happened.

I can only talk for myself, but in the current state, the server feels very unpleasant to play on and I don't plan to extend my short visit, if things don't change. I understand that your feelings probably strongly differ. What most active player are hoping for is that nothing changes but a lot of cannon fodder starts joining the server. But that is not ever going to happen. Just wanted to point that out.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: cobby on February 07, 2020, 02:57:35 pm
Yes @kABUSE is right.
Free chainsaw and snipers was a bad idea.Instead of increasing players in excitement for chainsaw and snipers it is decreasing player who are strongly killed by these weapons.

And also @kABUSE, Jonne or someone else will comment your rest of the frames.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: popcornZ on February 09, 2020, 08:43:16 pm
Yes @kABUSE is right.
Free chainsaw and snipers was a bad idea.Instead of increasing players in excitement for chainsaw and snipers it is decreasing player who are strongly killed by these weapons.

And also @kABUSE, Jonne or someone else will comment your rest of the frames.
as If you play the gamemode yourself, you adressed only the chainsaw and sniper issue, which seems like its a personal issue to you, you want to have chainsaw and sniper for yourself and use it on regular non Vip players. Why didn't you talk about the other points that he discussed?
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Srex_Zangetsu on February 13, 2020, 12:27:20 pm
I agree with most,but whining about sawnoff?Whaddabout spamming uzis,or spas from a vehicle?That's an issue too.We should be able to choose our own weaponry,that wouldn't be a bad thing in my opinion.
Yes,snipers and saws for everyone is bad.But only few people having it is way worse.What can others do to fight back,then?How about banning sniper forever?Instead,we'd be only using rifles,and that'd be a game based on accuracy,not just spamming sniper with a better field view while others don't deal damage even with clear hits.
Also,I think saw could stay.It's not that bad a weapon,it depends on how you use it.But it should be also fixed for people like me,who occasionally hit enemies yet the damage isn't inflicted at all.
Also,if the game is to depend more on accuracy and all,why don't we nerf dual wield weapons to single wield?Then your problem with sawnoff would be solved,since it'd be less of a spamming weapon,so the shitty spas would be worse.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: [PluG]ZERO on February 17, 2020, 10:01:29 pm
promote plug to admin level 3-4 and the server wud be alive 100 percent !!
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Singh on February 18, 2020, 06:26:02 am
promote plug to admin level 3-4 and the server wud be alive 100 percent !!
What changes you will make if you become Admin? 8)
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Scott_ on February 18, 2020, 07:07:37 am
promote plug to admin level 3-4 and the server wud be alive 100 percent !!
What changes you will make if you become Admin? 8)
He will unban LoDs k?
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Carg on February 18, 2020, 11:52:50 am
promote plug to admin level 3-4 and the server wud be alive 100 percent !!
What changes you will make if you become Admin? 8)
He is unban LoDs k?
More like he's going to send dick pics to everyone
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Shawkhawk did nothing wrong! on February 18, 2020, 12:12:43 pm
UNBAN LODS, AND WATCH HOW DEAD PLAYERS FROM 2016-17 COME OUTTA GRAVES JUST TO GET REKT BY LODS N CRY AIMBOT! WE WANT SERVER ENEMY TO KEEP PTP ALIVE!!!
altus alone cant keep this up.
All things considered, we should just ban low intelect creep like safi which is hated by 95 % server players. And actually all mouse rapers.

bitch plz, safi learnt his cancer by watching cancers fight each other. you on the other hand, you looked dumb from the start.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: kABUSE on February 22, 2020, 10:19:16 pm
I agree with most,but whining about sawnoff?Whaddabout spamming uzis,or spas from a vehicle

In all honesty, if I had things to decide and if this was my server I would change it as follows:
- Remove all ranges weapons with Rifle being the only exception, remove saw
- Don't increase Health of President Spawn vehicles
- Disable all weapons from passenger DB with the exception of Uzi/SMG
- Disable damage while entering/leaving vehicles
- Disable Skin Hit

This will pretty much revert the server back to the original gameplay that everybody loved and that attracted a huge load of new players every day. DB was a huge thing back then. It is completely and utterly useless now.

Of course the changes would make a few players leave permanently because their tactics no longer work. But I don't see losing that type of players as an issue.

The current gameplay is 99% toxic bullshit like roof surfing an armored vehicle with 10 players and driving back and forth between armor spawn points or camping with granades and snipers in Area 51 or on one of the shitty ships.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Srex_Zangetsu on February 23, 2020, 04:42:27 pm
Agreed,most of those changes are very good.I'd also keep only the rifle, so the range combat would be more challenging,and damage while entering/exiting the vehicles should be disabled. If you meant that presidential vehicles' hp should be decreased, I disagree.Drives-by with only sub-machine guns would be more challenging and thus,better,indeed. But the game would be even more challenging if all dual wield weapons were nerfed back to single wield, so I'd insist on that as well.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Singh on February 24, 2020, 05:08:07 am
I agree with most,but whining about sawnoff?Whaddabout spamming uzis,or spas from a vehicle

In all honesty, if I had things to decide and if this was my server I would change it as follows:
- Remove all ranges weapons with Rifle being the only exception, remove saw
- Don't increase Health of President Spawn vehicles
- Disable all weapons from passenger DB with the exception of Uzi/SMG
- Disable damage while entering/leaving vehicles
- Disable Skin Hit

This will pretty much revert the server back to the original gameplay that everybody loved and that attracted a huge load of new players every day. DB was a huge thing back then. It is completely and utterly useless now.

Of course the changes would make a few players leave permanently because their tactics no longer work. But I don't see losing that type of players as an issue.

The current gameplay is 99% toxic bullshit like roof surfing an armored vehicle with 10 players and driving back and forth between armor spawn points or camping with granades and snipers in Area 51 or on one of the shitty ships.

I think saw can be remove But sniper not, there will be  a limit of ammo of non- VIP players for /sniper like 50-60 then i think it will be good.

DB can be remove for weapon Combat shotgun as it takes so much damage.Uzi/SMG will stay it does not takes a huge damage  and it can be defence able if we go far from its range.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: Singh on March 04, 2020, 03:18:46 am
One More Important Thing i suggest that there is an awareness among the players for Free VIP from leaderboard as  this makes the Player more active for becoming  VIP.
Also Include some more features in VIP like
🔷add a tag of VIP in players skin which can be seen by other player in its skin/body (this looks very cool)
🔷There will must a colourfull chat which VIP players can do in main chat like
Singh_NS[0]:{ffff00}  Hey
🔷There should be More attractive car modification just like we do in garage like adding boompers etc through a cmd.


These are some i suggest.
Title: Re: Making PTP alive
Post by: cobby on March 07, 2020, 06:48:23 pm
Congrats beebees

We meda da sirver alive naow . Playur listenéd tu avar traash.

-xoxo Bob's vegan cookies