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General => Suggestions => Topic started by: Maddy on May 22, 2019, 03:09:09 pm

Title: [To be added]Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Maddy on May 22, 2019, 03:09:09 pm
Hello Everybody,

I was thinking to add ejection from helicopters through a rope way as we see in single player, swat comes down from the heli(both mavericks and police helicopter) through a rope. I know the rope's length isn't too much but it can adjusted by lowering down the altitude in emergency situations. Being a protective thing, it can also be a way of enjoyment in the server, I feel it interesting. Some players would think this should be only done for presidents as the president is only one who need this feature the most. And we can decide it by a poll I've added.

I don't know if this is possible for the driver too, so if anybody knows about it let me know.

An image based on the above suggestion:
(https://i.imgur.com/fR447IV.jpg)

Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Zeta on May 22, 2019, 03:09:42 pm
+1
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: LuCa on May 22, 2019, 04:16:46 pm
Only swat class should be able to do this they need an complete overhaul anyway they are useless right now
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: SaiFi on May 22, 2019, 05:32:09 pm
yes +1 agree with maddy
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Jack_Bhai on May 22, 2019, 06:25:17 pm
+1
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Deadman on May 22, 2019, 11:21:52 pm
One thing I know is this.
When heli's about to explode or starts smoking the pilot inside it gets killed no matter how many attempts you make to survive. This could save the chances of survival so +1 for that.
I don't know if this is possible for the driver too, so if anybody knows about it let me know.
Yes, totally possible. It will be a rappelling though not the ejection. ;)
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Ahsoka_Tano on May 22, 2019, 11:33:16 pm
This is possible.
Also it should be only for swat and cops. It helps especially when they need quick response to presidents location.
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Airman on May 22, 2019, 11:37:32 pm
This is possible.
Also it should be only for swat and cops. It helps especially when they need quick response to presidents location.
An improved version of Air1 !
+1
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Maddy on May 23, 2019, 03:51:55 am
Since there were no negative comments, I've added up a poll, so vote according to your decision.

I don't know if this is possible for the driver too, so if anybody knows about it let me know.
Yes, totally possible. It will be a rappelling though not the ejection.

Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on May 23, 2019, 11:36:41 am
Yeah possible in SAMP (have seen many examples) and +1. Will make helicopters definitely more usable but maybe make it limited to prevent from getting too stronk? (shooting helicopter pilots will become harder in places like san fierro with lots of building to land on).
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Chetan on May 23, 2019, 12:10:48 pm
+1
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Kelik on May 23, 2019, 12:20:54 pm
This is possible.
Also it should be only for swat and cops. It helps especially when they need quick response to presidents location.
I agree. It should be available only for cops and swats and +1 for that.
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on May 23, 2019, 12:56:05 pm
This is possible.
Also it should be only for swat and cops. It helps especially when they need quick response to presidents location.
I agree. It should be available only for cops and swats and +1 for that.

I'd rather allow this for Security and SWAT only, and cops during /bu. Or either SWAT only and Cops n Secs during /backup (if secs get too stronk due to this).

Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Kelik on May 23, 2019, 01:43:49 pm
This is possible.
Also it should be only for swat and cops. It helps especially when they need quick response to presidents location.
I agree. It should be available only for cops and swats and +1 for that.

I'd rather allow this for Security and SWAT only, and cops during /bu. Or either SWAT only and Cops n Secs during /backup (if secs get too stronk due to this).
Damn, I didn't think of what you said and I'm surprised. Also, I have an another suggestion too for this topic :

During that period of time when President used /bu, the 'rope' thing will be added at that time to all of the Police Maverick/s spawned in the map. Since we knew that'll have an advantage towards the Terrorists and Civilians. We should make a "Limitation" thing to it and it'll be available for 1-2 mins after the President used /bu command so SWATs/Securities/Cops won't abuse this new system(if Jonne added this to the GM).
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Maddy on May 23, 2019, 02:09:54 pm
Changed the last option in the poll to "Only for defending side"
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on May 23, 2019, 02:40:42 pm
Tbh this feature is pretty cool actually, while I do prefer the use should be more accessible to the SWAT/Sec side...

Why not allow it for Terrorists too via sparrow and sparrow rope descending being exclusive to Terrorists only? With limitations ofcourse, but more open ended and different in use than Good Team. Like having limited uses per spawn/round and they have to use it wisely. (Eg:4 rope descents per life or 6 per round,more score = bonus )

No civilians, since they usually go with rustlers or surprise helikill.

And good limitation btw Vendetta but just to make things more fun and counter the terrorist sparrow roping, lets allow SWAT to have the rope thingy with less limitation and to make up for it they are pretty weak., and since SWAT are one of the least used and relevant classes.
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Kelik on May 23, 2019, 03:04:07 pm
Tbh this feature is pretty cool actually, while I do prefer the use should be more accessible to the SWAT/Sec side...

Why not allow it for Terrorists too via sparrow and sparrow rope descending being exclusive to Terrorists only? With limitations ofcourse, but more open ended and different in use than Good Team. Like having limited uses per spawn/round and they have to use it wisely. (Eg:4 rope descents per life or 6 per round,more score = bonus )

No civilians, since they usually go with rustlers or surprise helikill.

And good limitation btw Vendetta but just to make things more fun and counter the terrorist sparrow roping, lets allow SWAT to have the rope thingy with less limitation and to make up for it they are pretty weak., and since SWAT are one of the least used and relevant classes.

Agree'd, SWATs are the only class that is useless to us but not for newbies because they ended up being on that class as always. But the 6 rope descents are too much, make it 5 or below. Like I said, it needs "Limitations".

As for the terrorist suggestion, I don't think Sparrows aren't fit to have the rope descending system, because they're only 2 seats(1 driver & 1 passenger). Two people roping down into the President's location would be a suicide for them if they're alot of Protectors in-front of them.

So I prefer a normal Maverick(a chopper without the police tag) to have THAT rope system and 4 terrorists is enough to catch and kill that President instead of 2 terrorists going on a suicide mission and feed.
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on May 23, 2019, 05:00:41 pm
^Click on my name to read the post, so that it doesnt flood the screen

Agree'd, SWATs are the only class that is useless to us but not for newbies because they ended up being on that class as always. But the 6 rope descents are too much, make it 5 or below. Like I said, it needs "Limitations".

As for the terrorist suggestion, I don't think Sparrows aren't fit to have the rope descending system, because they're only 2 seats(1 driver & 1 passenger). Two people roping down into the President's location would be a suicide for them if they're alot of Protectors in-front of them.

So I prefer a normal Maverick(a chopper without the police tag) to have THAT rope system and 4 terrorists is enough to catch and kill that President instead of 2 terrorists going on a suicide mission and feed.

Oh by 5-6 I meant for Terrorists since Sparrows are very slow and only hold two people. Yeah limitations should be suited accordingly, I am sure a reduced number would still work at a better rate and not encourage to use it too much. I want Terrorist roping to be different than good team roping.

And yeah, sparrows maybe a bit too brutal, I didnt want to make it look like 1:1 but sadly theres no other 2+ capacity chopper in SA to my memory atleast. So a Terro Themed Maverick would work quite well, but maybe with significantly reduced health to prevent too much usage? like 1000 HP vs 750 HP.

I dont want people to take those helicopters for non GM stuff like some cops and civilian literally stole President Ranchers for more health. Terrorist Helicopter would be more critical based but much open situation based than good team.

It makes sense even thematically, good team are limited by bureaucracy bs (short timed /backup) and terrorist are limited by having inferior goods than govt and being less trained than SWAT.

Also to make it better, most Maverick locations should be transferred to SWAT spawn instead of Police Spawn. SWATs being afar from Mavericks and good police vehicles in EVERY map makes no sense.

Btw Maddy can you include a Option that includes "Defending Team and Terrorist Team"?


Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Maddy on May 23, 2019, 05:35:10 pm
You mean except president?
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on May 24, 2019, 06:45:45 am
You mean except president?

I thought all classes would involve civilians. I am fine with president too actually but if ye if your all classes option excludes civilians then I will vote that instead
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Maddy on May 24, 2019, 12:09:37 pm
You mean except president?

I thought all classes would involve civilians. I am fine with president too actually but if ye if your all classes option excludes civilians then I will vote that instead
Added.
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Bully on May 24, 2019, 04:28:32 pm
+1
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Jonne on July 06, 2019, 02:47:31 pm
I have doubts if this is possible without making a very complex system, it's even a struggle in GTA V. For the people who said it is, do you have any resources on how to do this exactly, or servers where you have seen such a system. So I would like to figure out the amount of effort this will take before giving a final decision on this suggestion.
Title: Re: Allow the ejection from helicopters
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on July 07, 2019, 02:31:13 am
I will try finding some servers that have this feature. Probably some SvT or CoD clone will have it.


but in the meanwhile since there are lot of these, with some being too generic and other having no link to source at all I selected these few

Each one is different

(read the description of this one)

https://forum.sa-mp.com/showthread.php?t=568585&highlight=rappel

https://forum.sa-mp.com/showthread.php?t=577755

https://forum.sa-mp.com/showthread.php?t=93507&highlight=helicopter+slide

https://forum.sa-mp.com/showthread.php?p=3489383&highlight=rappel&page=1