Plan B
General => Suggestions => Closed => Topic started by: UltimateKiller on April 15, 2016, 09:09:23 am
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Well , we know that beta-skins have been used by alot of Vips that is kinda advantage over other newbies and also most servers don't allow them . So , I think removing them would be a good idea and we can have a fair gameplay .
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Agreed.
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Maybe make a poll about this on the PTP forums?
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Maybe make a poll about this on the PTP forums?
Well , since this script will be used for ptp so that's why it is best to make a topic here and most players have registered here so..and anyways suggestions here are looked upon more than the one's on original ptp forums
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Yeah, why not.
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+1 to this
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You can't remove something people have already paid for.
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You can't remove something people have already paid for.
This is not what ''people paid for " , it was basically the VIP weapons and other normal skins etc
Not these beta skins , people have been playing before with normal skins and it was fine then , these beta skins have ruined the fun . So yeah..and most other servers don't allow them so people can have a fair gameplay
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You can't remove something people have already paid for.
This is not what ''people paid for " , it was basically the VIP weapons and other normal skins etc
Not these beta skins , people have been playing before with normal skins and it was fine then , these beta skins have ruined the fun . So yeah..and most other servers don't allow them so people can have a fair gameplay
Sniper and chainsaw are also huge advantages. We were told that we would be able to use any skin we wanted and we paid. VIP features should only be increased, not restricted.
I don't feel like this is the right place to discuss it. There's a VIP forum in PTP. Everybody should be able to give an opinion and not only the beta testers, since this could be controversial.
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I don't think we should create a poll here, or in this VIP forum you guys are talking about. I think we should just create a poll on the public PTP forums so everyone can vote.
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Already made a topic in VIP Area .
@Uthar ; actually only VIPs can use beta skins so it would be best if VIPs vote on that . Probably , non-vips will vote yes for them to be remove so you know..
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@Uthar ; actually only VIPs can use beta skins so it would be best if VIPs vote on that . Probably , non-vips will vote yes for them to be remove so you know..
Yeah, that's the point. A lot of non-vips hate it when vips use beta skins, because there (apparently) is a big disadvantage for them. If you would only let the vips vote, the outcome would probably be to leave them be.
Actually, I think it's best if Tenshi or Jonne decides on this. Because either way, the outcome will be a little unfair.
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Yes, it's better to do this on the PTP forums instead of here, so everyone can have a vote on it. And what Mia said is also true, some people might have donated for VIP just because of the beta skins, so in a way, they have paid for that. But the donations go to Tenshi, not me, so he'll have the final decision in this.
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@Uthar ; actually only VIPs can use beta skins so it would be best if VIPs vote on that . Probably , non-vips will vote yes for them to be remove so you know..
Yeah, that's the point. A lot of non-vips hate it when vips use beta skins, because there (apparently) is a big disadvantage for them. If you would only let the vips vote, the outcome would probably be to leave them be.
Actually, I think it's best if Tenshi or Jonne decides on this. Because either way, the outcome will be a little unfair.
Well , Tenshi/Jonne won't just remove it . They'll be asking for everyone's opinion and act accordingly since it's a VIP feature (not saying they can't lol) . The topic is just to see if Vips want them or not and then Jonne ands Tenshi can decide . Final decision is with them ofcourse
Yes, it's better to do this on the PTP forums instead of here, so everyone can have a vote on it. And what Mia said is also true, some people might have donated for VIP just because of the beta skins, so in a way, they have paid for that. But the donations go to Tenshi, not me, so he'll have the final decision in this.
Well , I agree . Some players did pay only for the beta-skins but then again..it's clear that beta skins are just too OP . We didn't use beta skins before because we wanted to have a nice clean gameplay rather than abusing it too much . The game went well but now..
And anyways , everyone that has donated will vote and I hope everything will be according to the votes .
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You can't remove something people have already paid for...
...Sniper and chainsaw are also huge advantages. We were told that we would be able to use any skin we wanted and we paid. VIP features should only be increased, not restricted.
Was it written anywhere that you would be able to use any skin you wanted? It was already obvious that you wouldn't be able to use certain ones like the President/VP skins and the staff skin. It sure is convenient to change your standards when it suits you! While yes, snipers and chainsaws are huge advantages (as you regularly prove in game), beta skins are practically glitching.
I don't feel like this is the right place to discuss it. There's a VIP forum in PTP. Everybody should be able to give an opinion and not only the beta testers, since this could be controversial.
Already made a topic in VIP Area .
@Uthar ; actually only VIPs can use beta skins so it would be best if VIPs vote on that . Probably , non-vips will vote yes for them to be remove so you know..
You people are right- only the VIPs should choose. We all know that we represent the best of the server. It just wouldn't be productive to have silly plebeians discussing patrician matters.
... the donations go to Tenshi, not me, so he'll have the final decision in this.
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@Yomama ; mate..If I didn't care about the other non-vips/regulars then I wouldn't have made this topic in the first place , I did this becoz of the other guys that donated and so that they might not have any excuses about the opinions of non-vips ( I can still make a topic in public if you guys want ) . I mean no disrespect to anyone
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Was it written anywhere that you would be able to use any skin you wanted? It was already obvious that you wouldn't be able to use certain ones like the President/VP skins and the staff skin. It sure is convenient to change your standards when it suits you! While yes, snipers and chainsaws are huge advantages (as you regularly prove in game), beta skins are practically glitching.
Not literally, but it said that "VIP commands" were included. When a person buys VIP, he already knows what the commands are and how they work. You buy an orange peeler because you know it can peel oranges. If someone tells you later on that you can't peel oranges but only tangerines, maybe you wouldn't have bought the peeler at first.
More info (not about tangerines lol): http://ptpmp.net/forum/index.php?topic=3540.0
Sniper and chainsaw are also huge advantages. We were told that we would be able to use any skin we wanted and we paid. VIP features should only be increased, not restricted.
Yeah, of course they are advantages... So if we remove beta skins because they are an advantage, why not remove the other advantages too? Obviously I don't want to remove anything, but that's what the logical reasoning would be. Why are some advantages OK while others aren't?
You people are right- only the VIPs should choose. We all know that we represent the best of the server. It just wouldn't be productive to have silly plebeians discussing patrician matters.
- In general terms, VIPs are as intelligent as non-VIPs.
- VIPs are the ones who have paid to use beta skins among other features. So VIPs are the ones to decide if they want to stop using them or not.
- Asking non-VIPs it's a waste of time, since beta skins are a disadvantage for them and they obviously want them to be restricted.
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Chainsaws and snipers are the things that can be dealt with in other ways but beta skins have a different case . I used to be non-vip before and I was OK with that , didn't thought of them as a ''huge advantage'' as you call . Stop being like they should be removed as well . These weapons are fine IMO
You can't expect everything to be removed lol , just the necessary things and beta skins are one of them
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Chainsaws and snipers are the things that can be dealt with in other ways but beta skins have a different case . I used to be non-vip before and I was OK with that , didn't thought of them as a ''huge advantage'' as you call . Stop being like they should be removed as well . These weapons are fine IMO
You can't expect everything to be removed lol , just the necessary things and beta skins are one of them
I don't want them to be removed lol. But according to your "advantage" arguments, they should be removed too.
You can also deal with beta skins, I get killed every now and then when I have a beta skin. But for example it's impossible to deal with a sniper in the middle of the desert at a big distance or with a chainsaw at a small corridor x)
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Chainsaws and snipers are the things that can be dealt with in other ways but beta skins have a different case . I used to be non-vip before and I was OK with that , didn't thought of them as a ''huge advantage'' as you call . Stop being like they should be removed as well . These weapons are fine IMO
You can't expect everything to be removed lol , just the necessary things and beta skins are one of them
I don't want them to be removed lol. But according to your "advantage" arguments, they should be removed too.
You can also deal with beta skins, I get killed every now and then when I have a beta skin. But for example it's impossible to deal with a sniper in the middle of the desert at a big distance or with a chainsaw at a small corridor x)
Well whatever , if you aren't getting the point . I can't do anything , the voting will decide and no more replies from me .
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I had paid vip mainly for vip weapons {Specially sniper} so as long as we are getting advantage over normal member its still worth it.
I just hate to see all those fast skin puta's around & majority of them wanna get rid of them for sure.
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Let's just continue this suggestion on the actual forums, not really a point in have 2 separate ones. And as I said already, it's Tenshis decision in the end, not mine.
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