Plan B
Information => News & Updates => Topic started by: Jonne on February 12, 2018, 01:47:26 pm
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Hi everyone,
Effective today, the spree system has been removed from PTP. We've taken this decision after numerous complaints and bans for spreefixing during the last couple of months. We're doing this because the spree system, as people are using it now and the way it's evolving, is doing more harm to the gamemode than good. More and more sprees are 'planned' and dominating the gamemode in that way, instead of only being a side objective. Especially picking the president slot, with the only intention to die in the last seconds to keep a spree going, while other players are wasting their time trying to protect or kill him is something we consider damaging to the gamemode and thus want to prevent. There are rules in place to prevent spree fixing, but we noticed that those rules can't completely prevent it as more and more people try to find ways around them. A lot of players aren't aware of that rule, and are just trying to help the ones having a spree without knowing it's not allowed. Also, it's not always possible to prove if someone died 'intentionally' or not as a president, so the rule isn't really efficient anymore. So, all of this taken into account, we decided to remove the spree system.
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Fair Enough. I see cops blocking Terro spawns just to get that high spree and brag about it.
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Good decision. This will definitely end the spreefixing. I've seen multiple times that cops and civilians teamup near armor for spreefixing.
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Good decision. This will definitely end the spreefixing. I've seen multiple times that cops and civilians teamup near armor for spreefixing.
Sometimes the game is boring that why they do it but a question so /spree [ID] and /bestspree will not working ? And this "Vishwas is on killing spree 127 kills" will not appear?
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Good decision. This will definitely end the spreefixing. I've seen multiple times that cops and civilians teamup near armor for spreefixing.
Sometimes the game is boring that why they do it but a question so /spree [ID] and /bestspree will not working ? And this "Vishwas is on killing spree 127 kills" will not appear?
Complete Spree system is removed , this includes:
1. Removal of text in the right bottom saying "Vishwas is on killing spree 127 kills"
2. Removal of both commands /spree [ID] and /bestspree
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Ok thanks Vishwas /part :D anyways good job Jonne :)
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Good decision! I would never think of that
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Good decision! Some new mods won't be able to allow their clan mates for spree fixing anymore
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Good decision! Some new mods won't be able to allow their clan mates for spree fixing anymore
#Sorrynotsorry
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Good Decision :)
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RIP Sprees! Good decision removing it though.
PS: Congratulations Sani for being the PTP's highest killing spree with 151 kills
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Just when I changed my name back from SpreeFixer.. ;(
Illuminati everywhere.
jk
Good Decision.
GG no Re
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Great decision 👍
unban LoDs Now
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Some kinda good decision but it's a bit hard to forget those times :'(
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Anything for the betterment of the community.
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Appreciated :)
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Good discusion thats comfortable
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It's A Shame Really But Its The Right Decision.
All We Can Do Is Blame Mike And The Rest Of LoD'S! :P :P :P :P
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It's A Shame Really But Its The Right Decision.
All We Can Do Is Blame Mike And The Rest Of LoD'S! :P :P :P :P
No you can't blame them, it's just the spree system was unfair and useless.
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Anything for the betterment of the community.
+1
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Best decision! Becuse everytime i try to get on a high the president always die or they leave the game:p
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Why not keeping the killing spree on the bottom right of the screen tho?
If the spree is off so it wouldn't hurt anyone ;3
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I think this would solve only a half of this problem. Although I was against it when it was suggested but you should also consider removing/changing the score system, if you remove the spree feature for the sake of gamemode. Afterall the current score system is based on the amount of the kills you get rather than your contribution to the gamemode , just like the sprees.
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aww oke
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I appreciate with jonne's decision. Now there will be peace instead of spree whoring.
Thank you Jonne :)
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It's A Shame Really But Its The Right Decision.
All We Can Do Is Blame Mike And The Rest Of LoD'S! :P :P :P :P
Thanks to them but I don't like this decision of removing the sprees. PTP seems different without that spree text :(
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How to showoff tha skillz now?
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Let's not pretend that only LoDs are the one to be blamed for this change.
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It's A Shame Really But Its The Right Decision.
All We Can Do Is Blame Mike And The Rest Of LoD'S! :P :P :P :P
Thanks to them but I don't like this decision of removing the sprees. PTP seems different without that spree text :(
truth :(
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i joined today and thought that something was wrong with my sa-mp layout so i rage quit.
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i joined today and thought that something was wrong with my sa-mp layout so i rage quit.
Life goals.
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i joined today and thought that something was wrong with my sa-mp layout so i rage quit.
Lmao gg men
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i joined today and thought that something was wrong with my sa-mp layout so i rage quit.
Like a boss!
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I think this would solve only a half of this problem. Although I was against it when it was suggested but you should also consider removing/changing the score system, if you remove the spree feature for the sake of gamemode. Afterall the current score system is based on the amount of the kills you get rather than your contribution to the gamemode , just like the sprees.
Removing the spree system is certainly a step in the right direction, but yeah, removing the K/D scores would make this even better. Even if it takes a while to create a scoring system that is more representative of the gamemode, it would be nice to have a few simple stats to replace the K/D stats, like keeping track of President kills/kill assists and how often the President survives when a player is security/police.
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I think this would solve only a half of this problem. Although I was against it when it was suggested but you should also consider removing/changing the score system, if you remove the spree feature for the sake of gamemode. Afterall the current score system is based on the amount of the kills you get rather than your contribution to the gamemode , just like the sprees.
Removing the spree system is certainly a step in the right direction, but yeah, removing the K/D scores would make this even better. Even if it takes a while to create a scoring system that is more representative of the gamemode, it would be nice to have a few simple stats to replace the K/D stats, like keeping track of President kills/kill assists and how often the President survives when a player is security/police.
I agree. The main focus of PTP's /stats should be President Kills/Deaths/Survivals and President Win %, not kills, deaths and k/d ratio
Also add:
- /toppresikills - for players with most president kills
- /bestpresis - best survival % as president
And then enable the score system, +5 score when you survive as president, +3 when you kill the president, +3 if you are a security and the president wins and +1 for a normal kill
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We can learn a thing or few of the scoring system from the MTA PTP server. It's pretty good and favors the gamemode.
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Removing the spree system is certainly a step in the right direction, but yeah, removing the K/D scores would make this even better. Even if it takes a while to create a scoring system that is more representative of the gamemode, it would be nice to have a few simple stats to replace the K/D stats, like keeping track of President kills/kill assists and how often the President survives when a player is security/police.
(https://media.makeameme.org/created/I-DONT-LIKE-5cg3rc.jpg)
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Make a spree in killing the president, ez.
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Make a spree in killing the president, ez.
That's brilliant idea 👌
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Make a spree in killing the president, ez.
That's brilliant idea 👌
Hicham's name would always pop up in the corner then ;D
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We can learn a thing or few of the scoring system from the MTA PTP server. It's pretty good and favors the gamemode.
Could you elaborate on this?
I agree. The main focus of PTP's /stats should be President Kills/Deaths/Survivals and President Win %, not kills, deaths and k/d ratio
Also add:
- /toppresikills - for players with most president kills
- /bestpresis - best survival % as president
And then enable the score system, +5 score when you survive as president, +3 when you kill the president, +3 if you are a security and the president wins and +1 for a normal kill
I don't like the idea of a "best presis" command. I do have a conflict of interest here, but survival percentage, in my opinion, is not really indicative of skill. Many people have good survival numbers because they are popular, many people refuse to attack them, they only play as President when there aren't good players around to stop them, or when the player count is low, etc. It would be more informative to look at players' President stats in the context of the people they were playing against. Someone who survives once or twice against top players shows more skill than someone who survives 10 times with all the top players on their team. A simple way of rewarding this would be to give points for survival that are based on the skills of each of the opposing players (surviving against an opposing player with 100 president kills over 100 hours of play would give more points than surviving against one with 5 president kills over 50 hours of play, and the points for surviving against each player would be summed up).
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Trying to kill/protect spreekeeper was the most exciting thing on todays ptp. Well done with deleting it. Well fucking DONE.
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Trying to kill/protect spreekeeper was the most exciting thing on todays ptp. Well done with deleting it. Well fucking DONE.
wut
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Trying to kill/protect spreekeeper was the most exciting thing on todays ptp. Well done with deleting it. Well fucking DONE.
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Yeah, I only wish the vice spreekeeper had been visible though, because then mods could make sure they aren't in the same vehicle so the map keeps going if they die. Gonna miss driving directly from the spreekeeper's spawn to camp at armor- a revolutionary strategy. So many duty issues though. Some of the team would go chase that dumb fucking yellow blip. Noobs.
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Trying to kill/protect spreekeeper was the most exciting thing on todays ptp. Well done with deleting it. Well fucking DONE.
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Yeah, I only wish the vice spreekeeper had been visible though, because then mods could make sure they aren't in the same vehicle so the map keeps going if they die. Gonna miss driving directly from the spreekeeper's spawn to camp at armor- a revolutionary strategy. So many duty issues though. Some of the team would go chase that dumb fucking yellow blip. Noobs.
Players not playing gamemod is not a problem because today it is not "determined" as a problem at all.
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Lot Players are disappearing :o
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Lot Players are disappearing :o
I'm not sure where you're getting this from. I just saw 50+ players in the server recently. If people actually were disappearing because of this change, where's the problem? The more toxic players leave, the more welcome new players will feel.
(http://monitor.sacnr.com/graphm-1784707.png)
(http://monitor.sacnr.com/graphmp-1784707.png)
...still not seeing anything unusual here.
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Lot Players are disappearing :o
I'm not sure where you're getting this from. I just saw 50+ players in the server recently. If people actually were disappearing because of this change, where's the problem? The more toxic players leave, the more welcome new players will feel.
(http://monitor.sacnr.com/graphm-1784707.png)
(http://monitor.sacnr.com/graphmp-1784707.png)
...still not seeing anything unusual here.
Act me iam happy of this +11 it will make us more beside to gamemode
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Well to be honest I got something related to this empty server thingy
https://imgur.com/a/0UNeS
It happened today.
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Well to be honest I got something related to this empty server thingy
https://imgur.com/a/0UNeS
It happened today.
What time was it when you were playing lol
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Well to be honest I got something related to this empty server thingy
https://imgur.com/a/0UNeS
It happened today.
Server actually is pretty empty during the early/late hours.
I myself have played with only 1-2 players at times (during the time I was free too much xd).
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It is empty around 11pm (gmt+0) , problem for latinos/Filipinos and Australians
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Nice Jonne?
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Well to be honest I got something related to this empty server thingy
https://imgur.com/a/0UNeS
It happened today.
Server actually is pretty empty during the early/late hours.
I myself have played with only 1-2 players at times (during the time I was free too much xd).
I just logged in and was alone in the server XD president doing some stunts LOL
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Well, I love that /bestspree got removed. That will quite positively kill spree fixing. In my opinion, stat tracking in general really isn't something that is necessary for this gamemode as it motivates people to do other things from following /duty.
I will forever miss the bottom right text though and removing current sprees isnt something that was needed, I believe. It has been stated before that K/D and score are still issues. How do sprees differ from plain ol' score? Just cause the person hasn't died in between doesn't change much. People can still gloat "my score is bigger than yours," and have the president kill himself to keep the top scoring person getting it even higher, but who knows, maybe people won't do that. Without sprees, survival while having many kills isn't as important as just having a good KD, but I guess terrorists and police killing eachother for KD doesn't really conflict with /duty, if the terrorists still keep the presi as the primary objective, since killing a cop helps the terrorist team overall and the duty of police is literally to kill terrorists.
Anyways, I still like the change. I personally only play for duty and don't care about stats that much, which means I seldom play police and civilian. This change has definitely lessened the amount of people camping armor pickups and made more people focus on the president, so well done guys, thumbs up.
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Good decision! Some new mods won't be able to allow their clan mates for spree fixing anymore
Sumit now how am I going to abooze your power for gaining my pro spree?
Joking..
But now It feels lil odd in down right corner of my screen, but removing it was necessary.
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I can finally place my speedometer bottom right corner !
before that I gotta return tho
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I can finally place my speedometer bottom right corner !
before that I gotta return tho
Lol what?
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I can finally place my speedometer bottom right corner !
before that I gotta return tho
Lol what?
Speedometer mods are placed in the bottom right corner where the Sprees were shown before.
He is inactive you nab
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Lot Players are disappearing :o
Doubt it
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Yea I hate those spree fixers (I am one of them ;D)
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Sucks but the nation of bhai India can't abuse it anymore for good