Plan B

General => Suggestions => Closed => Topic started by: Airman on August 05, 2018, 01:06:12 pm

Title: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Airman on August 05, 2018, 01:06:12 pm
What i'm suggesting is to add a small platform on both sides of a Raindance (a Mavreick would be too overpowered in my opinion) so that we can stand on it and be able to shoot , In order to make it a little fair for everyone , it wont be available in everymap , just like hydras , let's say for example RC map .

The main idea

(https://i.imgur.com/8QHXiS5.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/FcdE9xp.png)

Suggested location on the map :
(https://i.imgur.com/CKkE39M.png)

Raindance :
(https://i.imgur.com/207EWHH.jpg)
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Uzumaki on August 05, 2018, 01:16:04 pm
I dont know about this so just asking. Is the raindace's highest altitude equal to that of rustler? Because RC doesn't have shamal to attain high altitude.🤔


+1 for this tho.
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Crash on August 05, 2018, 01:36:56 pm
Is it unfair to President? It's all fancy and fun to roll with your squad like that, but the President would go whoring all the time to avoid getting killed.
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Uzumaki on August 05, 2018, 01:42:58 pm
Is it unfair to President? It's all fancy and fun to roll with your squad like that, but the President would go whoring all the time to avoid getting killed.
The raindance is bulky and slow. We can pull it down with a rustler. But IDK if the raindance's max altitude can be tracked with a rustler.
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: LPCOLTER on August 05, 2018, 01:51:38 pm
There is shamal at RC.
plus we have another big helicopter on which 2x2 people can stand but not move yet still shoot.
We can add those in every map.
Idk the name, it's greenish
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Airman on August 05, 2018, 01:55:47 pm
I dont know about this so just asking. Is the raindace's highest altitude equal to that of rustler? Because RC doesn't have shamal to attain high altitude.🤔


+1 for this tho.
I honestly dont know , but we could try that in game

Is it unfair to President? It's all fancy and fun to roll with your squad like that, but the President would go whoring all the time to avoid getting killed.
As Panther said , i chose the raindance because it's pretty slow , means that you can easily destroy it by shooting it with an m4 + secs are good at shooting helicopters , trust me i've tried it before :v

There is shamal at RC.
plus we have another big helicopter on which 2x2 people can stand but not move yet still shoot.
We can add those in every map.
Idk the name, it's greenish
I'm not talking about shamal here , and that big helicopter is a cargobob , i'm sure that you can't do what i'm suggesting here with a cargobob (knowing that a cargobob is even slower then the raindance , using it would be useless)
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: SoLoD on August 05, 2018, 02:36:58 pm
This + sniper rifle = overpowered.
You can go above target, gunners will be able to shoot, target will not.
And btw you can do this heli+gunners even without adding this features.
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Spici_Popot on August 05, 2018, 03:12:38 pm
Nice suggestion this will be a great suggestion of all the time.
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Aztrek on August 05, 2018, 03:47:36 pm
What will happen to that president who will die again and again? -1 for me tho. You can post suggestions else than planes or helicopters tho  :P
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Deadman on August 05, 2018, 04:22:46 pm
I like your idea but on one condition, it will be 2 in numbers and other classes need to come first, take first. Make it available for west venturas only because that map suits for this type of aerial combact. ;)
Overall, +1
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Uzumaki on August 05, 2018, 05:57:54 pm
What will happen to that president who will die again and again? -1 for me tho. You can post suggestions else than planes or helicopters tho  :P
Its not obligatory that the president is the only one that has to use the helicopters. Civilian can also go in a bunch and conduct a disco in the air maybe or it can be used for fun as well in many ways.
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Darwin on August 05, 2018, 06:54:48 pm
Imagine a team with secs an presi and terrors fighting in the air with helicopters :D , my vote is neutral
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Airman on August 05, 2018, 07:11:34 pm
What will happen to that president who will die again and again? -1 for me tho. You can post suggestions else than planes or helicopters tho  :P
The president can use it too , i didn't specify who will take advantage of it , might be cops or terros

I like your idea but on one condition, it will be 2 in numbers and other classes need to come first, take first. Make it available for west venturas only because that map suits for this type of aerial combact. ;)
Overall, +1
Actually i was thinking about having one singe helicopter , so that both terro and cops will have to fight for it , and about WV , sounds good to me

Imagine a team with secs an presi and terrors fighting in the air with helicopters :D , my vote is neutral
For me , that would be epic
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Deadman on August 05, 2018, 08:26:14 pm
What will happen to that president who will die again and again? -1 for me tho. You can post suggestions else than planes or helicopters tho  :P
The president can use it too , i didn't specify who will take advantage of it , might be cops or terros
^............. and most of them will be civils. :D
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Zeta on August 05, 2018, 08:45:35 pm
I like your idea but on one condition, it will be 2 in numbers and other classes need to come first, take first. Make it available for west venturas only because that map suits for this type of aerial combact. ;)
Overall, +1
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on August 06, 2018, 06:40:31 am
+1 we need this.

Sure, there are ways to have a helicopter gunner without this but this one is far more efficient and doesnt kill the player via air bug too much or make em fall off.

However make this is a special vehicle only available to Non Civilian Classes and probably just keep it near SWAT Spawn because it suits them better.

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What will happen to that president who will die again and again? -1 for me tho. You can post suggestions else than planes or helicopters tho

This thing is nowhere as overpowered as Hydra, sure sniper might turn out to be OP but this things strength is it's weakness, blow up the heli and everyone dies on board, or gets damaged critically and one aerial ram from a rustler or even a heli means all gunners will fall off and die. Furthermore the platform itself is limiting to the snipers, if they go near the edge they have a high chance of falling off, anything under the 45 degree angle can avoid getting sniped. I don't believe most PTP players to be skilled in Helicopters let alone heavybois like Raindance anyways.

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I like your idea but on one condition, it will be 2 in numbers and other classes need to come first, take first. Make it available for west venturas only because that map suits for this type of aerial combact.

Agreed on the Balance Idea, Disagreed on the WV Map limitation because it would be actually the ideal map to make it OP and make this thing undesirable like hydras. Main thing is it's 90% open ground with high points to camp, flying a raindance over there is too damn easy. This should be in every map because flying a raindance effectively through the buildings is enough of a countermeasure itself not so much in a open desert with barely any obstacles for air.









Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Deadman on August 06, 2018, 07:16:02 am
Then make it available for every map except NSA. Right @Lohit_The_Noob?
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on August 06, 2018, 07:25:53 am
Then make it available for every map except NSA. Right @Lohit_The_Noob?

I would say except WV, since it's hard to avoid Hydra missiles but they are good killers of hover mode hydras and would actually might even fit the theme of NSA.
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Yash on August 06, 2018, 08:08:33 am
If it's scriptable then hell YES +1!!!!
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: YoMama on August 06, 2018, 10:56:03 am
I dont know about this so just asking. Is the raindace's highest altitude equal to that of rustler? Because RC doesn't have shamal to attain high altitude.🤔
I don't like to quote myself, but from my flying guide:
  • All fixed-wing aircraft have a ceiling of 800 altitude, which you can see with /dl. Beyond that, the engine(s) can't be used to get them any higher, so they eventually stall uncontrollably until they get back to 800. However, with enough momentum, it's possible to get Rustlers to around 850, and jets even higher.
  • Helicopters can hover at 815 altitude because their engines can pull them up slightly higher, but they can still be reached by other aircraft, as mentioned before.

I'm okay with this if people can't use snipers on it. It would be too easy to just snipe away, hovering beyond the reach of anything but other snipers with little risk of falling off. Just remove snipers when people are standing on the platform, give them back once they're off. This would be more than enough fun without them anyway.
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Madman on August 06, 2018, 11:19:44 am
+1
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Maddy on August 06, 2018, 11:50:55 am
Since the punishment for camping in air is removed for President and keeping in mind about the latest updates(2000 vehicle hp for President vehicles and 100 armor for Securities on spawn) I don't think any more updates should be added in regards to President advantage. And these plates like structure can carry maximum 4 securities on each side which will be too overpowered.

If police also gets on this heli, imagine what combination of weapons can be used:
M4 + Deagle + Sniper(If any VIP Cop/Security is there) = a sudden big damage to the opponent.
This is a heavy disadvantage for terrors. In my opinion, no more updates are needed for President in any way(Until any new updates are made for other classes). So -1
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Deadman on August 06, 2018, 12:11:12 pm
Since the punishment for camping in air is removed for President and keeping in mind about the latest updates(2000 vehicle hp for President vehicles and 100 armor for Securities on spawn) I don't think any more updates should be added in regards to President advantage. And these plates like structure can carry maximum 4 securities on each side which will be too overpowered.

If police also gets on this heli, imagine what combination of weapons can be used:
M4 + Deagle + Sniper(If any VIP Cop/Security is there) = a sudden big damage to the opponent.
This is a heavy disadvantage for terrors. In my opinion, no more updates are needed for President in any way(Until any new updates are made for other classes). So -1
Just like Deagle DB is impossible, how about adding a same feature with this? For example if we agree on this kind of arieal combact then players weapons should be restricted to M4/AK only. This thing can make some balance effect.
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And these plates like structure can carry maximum 4 securities on each side which will be too overpowered.
This is where rustlers succeed. Make good use of it. Rustler guns = Ultra damage (if I am not wrong)
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Uzumaki on August 06, 2018, 01:09:29 pm
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If police also gets on this heli, imagine what combination of weapons can be used:
M4 + Deagle + Sniper(If any VIP Cop/Security is there) = a sudden big damage to the opponent.
This is a heavy disadvantage for terrors. In my opinion, no more updates are needed for President in any way(Until any new updates are made for other classes). So -1
Rustlers can be utilized in this situation. Plus I rarely see any cops protecting the president by sitting side by side to the President.
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Faro0s on August 06, 2018, 04:41:17 pm
Positive.
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Brian_Walker on August 06, 2018, 08:16:19 pm
+1
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Barbarianking on August 06, 2018, 08:25:06 pm
+1 Sounds Fun
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: YoMama on August 07, 2018, 12:50:27 am
Since the punishment for camping in air is removed for President and keeping in mind about the latest updates(2000 vehicle hp for President vehicles and 100 armor for Securities on spawn) I don't think any more updates should be added in regards to President advantage. And these plates like structure can carry maximum 4 securities on each side which will be too overpowered.

If police also gets on this heli, imagine what combination of weapons can be used:
M4 + Deagle + Sniper(If any VIP Cop/Security is there) = a sudden big damage to the opponent.
This is a heavy disadvantage for terrors. In my opinion, no more updates are needed for President in any way(Until any new updates are made for other classes). So -1
Who mentioned the President being the only one to benefit from this? There's nothing to stop terrorists from using it. I agree that it could be overpowered- limiting snipers would definitely help. M4s are just overpowered regardless- I still think that they should be weakened by reducing M4 skill. The helicopter would have to get way too low for deagles to do more damage than the the helicopter would take.
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Faro0s on August 07, 2018, 04:59:17 am
Since the punishment for camping in air is removed for President and keeping in mind about the latest updates(2000 vehicle hp for President vehicles and 100 armor for Securities on spawn) I don't think any more updates should be added in regards to President advantage. And these plates like structure can carry maximum 4 securities on each side which will be too overpowered.

If police also gets on this heli, imagine what combination of weapons can be used:
M4 + Deagle + Sniper(If any VIP Cop/Security is there) = a sudden big damage to the opponent.
This is a heavy disadvantage for terrors. In my opinion, no more updates are needed for President in any way(Until any new updates are made for other classes). So -1

Terrorists can do it as well lol
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: IDAN on August 07, 2018, 10:30:13 am
-1
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Cyrus_ on August 09, 2018, 07:30:23 am
i was thinking about this idea always ... thx for sharing this dear air

this Would be nice if we can jump on heli and snip Enemy

Great ... i give You +2 Air
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Rage on August 18, 2018, 04:29:31 pm
I like this Idea nice one +1 i hope this will be added it would fun :)
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Scott_ on August 19, 2018, 02:46:30 pm
Uber me first, +1!
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Chetan on August 19, 2018, 04:18:00 pm
I like this Idea nice one +1 i hope this will be added it would fun :)
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Oakley on August 20, 2018, 01:29:26 am
it would be really entertaining  +1
 
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Lizard_Person on August 20, 2018, 07:05:40 pm
Would make boring maps more interesting.

+1
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: cobby on August 22, 2018, 03:47:32 pm
-1
Title: Re: Helicopter Gunner
Post by: Jonne on December 07, 2018, 09:21:03 pm
We won't be adding this. This is pretty much already possible with a Leviathan anyway.