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Title: [Added]Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: Faro0s on April 19, 2017, 06:55:40 am
As the topic says, my suggestion is about the president's spawn area in NSA map.
Well we know that when the president is at his spawn, we will not be able to shoot with hydras, if shot one missile, we will receive a warning, second missile, we get another warning and the third fire will destroy our hydra, if I am not wrong.
Also, to keep it under our notice, we have a rule that if the president stays in his spawn for over a minute, we can kill him since it comes under hiding in the spawn, but not with Hydras.
Today an incident happened to me, I asked in the vip chat that whether i can kill the president or not sonce he was hiding in his spawn for 3 minutes, and an admin told me yes you can kill him if the president stays for more than a minute, ao i tried with hydra and my hydra was destroyed.
So, if this rule is implemented really and it is correct, then my suggestion is to let the hydras have the ability to attack the spawn if the president stays there for more than a minute.
What I am trying to say is that, the red area in the president's spawn area must be lost in order to let hydras attack the spawn because it is annoying to see your hydras getting damaged for no reason.
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: COBRA on April 19, 2017, 07:55:59 am
 Dude, you getting warned because you were about to kill new spawned securities. Not about president.
That's why you get warnings I think. So the point is: You can kill the president if he camps at spawn already. But not with hydra. Because hydra rockets making huge explosion in area and it kills the more players. That means there are many securities with President in spawn zone. So you cannot get kills of new spawned securities and system warns you about it. Even your suggestion gets accepted, in the chaos securities will stay there and this problem will continue.
 Nothing to do with it man..
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: Barto on April 19, 2017, 08:29:24 am
Dude, you getting warned because you were about to kill new spawned securities. Not about president.
That's why you get warnings I think. So the point is: You can kill the president if he camps at spawn already. But not with hydra. Because hydra rockets making huge explosion in area and it kills the more players. That means there are many securities with President in spawn zone. So you cannot get kills of new spawned securities and system warns you about it. Even your suggestion gets accepted, in the chaos securities will stay there and this problem will continue.
 Nothing to do with it man..
Yeah but the anti hydra system stays active even if president is too long in spawn. As you say it is to protect the just spawned securities so you can't destroy the vehicle they enter at the beginnen of their spawn
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: Madman on April 19, 2017, 08:36:57 am
no need
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: Ege on April 19, 2017, 09:34:22 am
I totally support this one. When spawn protection is over everyone is able to attack president but Hydra users aren't. I have no idea why they aren't allowed to attack president If president & his team decide to camp at their spawn.
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: Faro0s on April 19, 2017, 01:21:46 pm
Dude, you getting warned because you were about to kill new spawned securities. Not about president.
That's why you get warnings I think. So the point is: You can kill the president if he camps at spawn already. But not with hydra. Because hydra rockets making huge explosion in area and it kills the more players. That means there are many securities with President in spawn zone. So you cannot get kills of new spawned securities and system warns you about it. Even your suggestion gets accepted, in the chaos securities will stay there and this problem will continue.
 Nothing to do with it man..

You mean that the hydra explosions make chaos and that the re-spawned securities will keep on dying ? Well once they die, they will re spawn with a protection, and here I will say it will be good that when the new president is spawned again, the red zone appears again until one minute is over.
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: COBRA on April 19, 2017, 02:38:14 pm
You mean that the hydra explosions make chaos and that the re-spawned securities will keep on dying ? Well once they die, they will re spawn with a protection, and here I will say it will be good that when the new president is spawned again, the red zone appears again until one minute is over.
Well I exactly mean that but you are missing the point; Even you remove the destroying hydra script, then you will have to deal with new respawned securities with spawn protection. That means you will get spawnkill warning for shooting them, maybe you will get kicked in very short time. Bcuz of multiple hydra rockets damaging multiple people at single time. Removing the destroy hydra script won't help you about "keeping the hydra on president while he camps at spawn"... Or do I missing some point?
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: Faro0s on April 19, 2017, 06:26:50 pm
You mean that the hydra explosions make chaos and that the re-spawned securities will keep on dying ? Well once they die, they will re spawn with a protection, and here I will say it will be good that when the new president is spawned again, the red zone appears again until one minute is over.
Well I exactly mean that but you are missing the point; Even you remove the destroying hydra script, then you will have to deal with new respawned securities with spawn protection. That means you will get spawnkill warning for shooting them, maybe you will get kicked in very short time. Bcuz of multiple hydra rockets damaging multiple people at single time. Removing the destroy hydra script won't help you about "keeping the hydra on president while he camps at spawn"... Or do I missing some point?

I got you, you got point, but this can be solved too, when the president dies the class will be spawned again then the red spot will be appeared again and all the them will have spawn protection, now if you shoot him at this moment your hydra will be destroyed unless you let th first be over.
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: COBRA on April 22, 2017, 04:28:47 pm
I got you, you got point, but this can be solved too, when the president dies the class will be spawned again then the red spot will be appeared again and all the them will have spawn protection, now if you shoot him at this moment your hydra will be destroyed unless you let th first be over.
Yeah I got your point now! Each president won't be camping at spawn, so there will be so rare situation for it. Even so, you will have to accept that you will be in jail for rocket spaming the area. Anyway, I give +1
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: Ege on April 22, 2017, 06:43:59 pm
I got you, you got point, but this can be solved too, when the president dies the class will be spawned again then the red spot will be appeared again and all the them will have spawn protection, now if you shoot him at this moment your hydra will be destroyed unless you let th first be over.
Yeah I got your point now! Each president won't be camping at spawn, so there will be so rare situation for it. Even so, you will have to accept that you will be in jail for rocket spaming the area. Anyway, I give +1
What about disabling the no-flying zone along with spawn protection zone when the time is up? Also when president decides to camp at spawn make securities respawn without protection. (This one can be implemented for every map)
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: GlennN on April 22, 2017, 10:43:30 pm
I got you, you got point, but this can be solved too, when the president dies the class will be spawned again then the red spot will be appeared again and all the them will have spawn protection, now if you shoot him at this moment your hydra will be destroyed unless you let th first be over.
Yeah I got your point now! Each president won't be camping at spawn, so there will be so rare situation for it. Even so, you will have to accept that you will be in jail for rocket spaming the area. Anyway, I give +1
What about disabling the no-flying zone along with spawn protection zone when the time is up? Also when president decides to camp at spawn make securities respawn without protection. (This one can be implemented for every map)
+1 for the ideas here!
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: Faro0s on April 23, 2017, 02:25:10 am
I got you, you got point, but this can be solved too, when the president dies the class will be spawned again then the red spot will be appeared again and all the them will have spawn protection, now if you shoot him at this moment your hydra will be destroyed unless you let th first be over.
Yeah I got your point now! Each president won't be camping at spawn, so there will be so rare situation for it. Even so, you will have to accept that you will be in jail for rocket spaming the area. Anyway, I give +1
What about disabling the no-flying zone along with spawn protection zone when the time is up? Also when president decides to camp at spawn make securities respawn without protection. (This one can be implemented for every map)

Wanted to write this in my this reply but thank you for writing it, yes it's a good idea, securities will be re spawned with out the protection.
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: COBRA on April 23, 2017, 09:20:04 am
I got you, you got point, but this can be solved too, when the president dies the class will be spawned again then the red spot will be appeared again and all the them will have spawn protection, now if you shoot him at this moment your hydra will be destroyed unless you let th first be over.
Yeah I got your point now! Each president won't be camping at spawn, so there will be so rare situation for it. Even so, you will have to accept that you will be in jail for rocket spaming the area. Anyway, I give +1
What about disabling the no-flying zone along with spawn protection zone when the time is up? Also when president decides to camp at spawn make securities respawn without protection. (This one can be implemented for every map)

Wanted to write this in my this reply but thank you for writing it, yes it's a good idea, securities will be re spawned with out the protection.
Well I disagree about securities spawning non-protection. Because it can be abused very easily I think. When there is a nub president afk for sometime, there will be innocent new spawner securities. They have to be not affected by that non-spawn-protection idea..
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: YoMama on April 23, 2017, 09:23:16 am
I got you, you got point, but this can be solved too, when the president dies the class will be spawned again then the red spot will be appeared again and all the them will have spawn protection, now if you shoot him at this moment your hydra will be destroyed unless you let th first be over.
Yeah I got your point now! Each president won't be camping at spawn, so there will be so rare situation for it. Even so, you will have to accept that you will be in jail for rocket spaming the area. Anyway, I give +1
What about disabling the no-flying zone along with spawn protection zone when the time is up? Also when president decides to camp at spawn make securities respawn without protection. (This one can be implemented for every map)

Wanted to write this in my this reply but thank you for writing it, yes it's a good idea, securities will be re spawned with out the protection.
Well I disagree about securities spawning non-protection. Because it can be abused very easily I think. When there is a nub president afk for sometime, there will be innocent new spawner securities. They have to be not affected by that non-spawn-protection idea..
Why not just spawn them with a special spawn protection that doesn't punish people who shoot them?
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: Faro0s on April 23, 2017, 11:17:04 am
I got you, you got point, but this can be solved too, when the president dies the class will be spawned again then the red spot will be appeared again and all the them will have spawn protection, now if you shoot him at this moment your hydra will be destroyed unless you let th first be over.
Yeah I got your point now! Each president won't be camping at spawn, so there will be so rare situation for it. Even so, you will have to accept that you will be in jail for rocket spaming the area. Anyway, I give +1
What about disabling the no-flying zone along with spawn protection zone when the time is up? Also when president decides to camp at spawn make securities respawn without protection. (This one can be implemented for every map)

Wanted to write this in my this reply but thank you for writing it, yes it's a good idea, securities will be re spawned with out the protection.
Well I disagree about securities spawning non-protection. Because it can be abused very easily I think. When there is a nub president afk for sometime, there will be innocent new spawner securities. They have to be not affected by that non-spawn-protection idea..

I agree on this too, lol..
But security once he is spawned he must leave the spawn and go after the president, when a president is afk, that security can roam here and there because within 2 minutes the president will be auto kicked for being idle as a leader.

I got you, you got point, but this can be solved too, when the president dies the class will be spawned again then the red spot will be appeared again and all the them will have spawn protection, now if you shoot him at this moment your hydra will be destroyed unless you let th first be over.
Yeah I got your point now! Each president won't be camping at spawn, so there will be so rare situation for it. Even so, you will have to accept that you will be in jail for rocket spaming the area. Anyway, I give +1
What about disabling the no-flying zone along with spawn protection zone when the time is up? Also when president decides to camp at spawn make securities respawn without protection. (This one can be implemented for every map)

Wanted to write this in my this reply but thank you for writing it, yes it's a good idea, securities will be re spawned with out the protection.
Well I disagree about securities spawning non-protection. Because it can be abused very easily I think. When there is a nub president afk for sometime, there will be innocent new spawner securities. They have to be not affected by that non-spawn-protection idea..
Why not just spawn them with a special spawn protection that doesn't punish people who shoot them?

What kind of special spawn protection, i will be glad if you give a detailed explanation.
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: AruN. on April 23, 2017, 02:32:21 pm
What about disabling the no-flying zone along with spawn protection zone when the time is up? Also when president decides to camp at spawn make securities respawn without protection.
Let securities respawn with the usual spawn protection, Hydras are powerful enough to kill the president, even if securities are shooting at it.

Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: Nazi on April 23, 2017, 05:19:34 pm
Very good your suggestion,but I think a minute is short, remember that some security officers are very funny and sometimes do not let the president get into his car or start bothering him so he does not leave the spwan, better a 1:30 it's a reasonable time.
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: Faro0s on April 23, 2017, 05:45:33 pm
What about disabling the no-flying zone along with spawn protection zone when the time is up? Also when president decides to camp at spawn make securities respawn without protection.
Let securities respawn with the usual spawn protection, Hydras are powerful enough to kill the president, even if securities are shooting at it.

No, then the hydras will get the warning and the hydra will receive damage. So just remove the protection when the security is re-spawned but when the president dies and a new president is spawned the securities will receive their protection back.

Very good your suggestion,but I think a minute is short, remember that some security officers are very funny and sometimes do not let the president get into his car or start bothering him so he does not leave the spwan, better a 1:30 it's a reasonable time.

No, if a security does that, you can simply use /report and the corresponding security(s) will punished.
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: Nazi on April 23, 2017, 05:57:11 pm
Very good your suggestion,but I think a minute is short, remember that some security officers are very funny and sometimes do not let the president get into his car or start bothering him so he does not leave the spwan, better a 1:30 it's a reasonable time.

No, if a security does that, you can simply use /report and the corresponding security(s) will punished.
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Sometimes "Report" does not solve anything, but I'll take it into account.
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: Faro0s on April 24, 2017, 02:17:55 am
Very good your suggestion,but I think a minute is short, remember that some security officers are very funny and sometimes do not let the president get into his car or start bothering him so he does not leave the spwan, better a 1:30 it's a reasonable time.

No, if a security does that, you can simply use /report and the corresponding security(s) will punished.
Sometimes "Report" does not solve anything, but I'll take it into account.
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You got IRC, Discord, Teamspeak, Forum where admins are present, admins are doing their best to help us in playing the game clean, but after all they are human.
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: YoMama on April 25, 2017, 12:45:43 am
Why not just spawn them with a special spawn protection that doesn't punish people who shoot them?
What kind of special spawn protection, i will be glad if you give a detailed explanation.
I thought what I wrote was pretty clear- I meant giving the security just simple invincibility for a period of time not related to the area that they're in. If someone shoots them, they don't get punished for doing so. That way the anti-hydra zone can be disabled after a period of time so the President can be killed or he can leave while still giving the Security spawn protection when they die.
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: Faro0s on April 25, 2017, 02:41:42 am
Why not just spawn them with a special spawn protection that doesn't punish people who shoot them?
What kind of special spawn protection, i will be glad if you give a detailed explanation.
I thought what I wrote was pretty clear- I meant giving the security just simple invincibility for a period of time not related to the area that they're in. If someone shoots them, they don't get punished for doing so. That way the anti-hydra zone can be disabled after a period of time so the President can be killed or he can leave while still giving the Security spawn protection when they die.

I get it, I get it.
It's a good idea.
Title: Re: Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: Jonne on May 19, 2017, 03:04:32 am
I'll make the zone act the same as the normal zone. If he stays in his spawn zone for longer than a minute, the zone will be disabled. The securities already have a different spawn protection when the zone is disabled (15 seconds of spawn protection instead of area-related), but I agree it would be a good idea to disable the warnings as well on them.
Title: Re: [To be added]Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: Faro0s on May 19, 2017, 04:41:04 am
I'll make the zone act the same as the normal zone. If he stays in his spawn zone for longer than a minute, the zone will be disabled. The securities already have a different spawn protection when the zone is disabled (15 seconds of spawn protection instead of area-related), but I agree it would be a good idea to disable the warnings as well on them.

Thank you for your effort Jonne, I appreciate your hard work.
Title: Re: [Added]Suggestion regarding President spawn(NSA)
Post by: Jonne on September 18, 2018, 03:45:26 pm
Added: https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=4076.0