Plan B

General => Suggestions => Closed => Topic started by: Khan on May 08, 2017, 02:24:20 am

Title: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Khan on May 08, 2017, 02:24:20 am
I know some people will rage on this topic. If you don't want it to happen kindly do not insult and  just say -1.

So we've been discussing in game recently.

As you know there have been a lot of regular players that have been cheating. A lot of aimbot users, a lot of no recoil users. Basically all our time goes into making videos and trying to prove who the cheaters are because of the amount of work it takes for admins to ban these cheaters.

One ultimate way is to turn off lag compensation and reinstate lag shoot. This will at least eliminate use of all aimbots and at no recoil would be easier to catch.
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Manish on May 08, 2017, 02:56:08 am
I'm always a fan of lag-shot and will choose Lag-shot over Skin-hit any day as I'm still actively play on a couple of lag-shot servers, but I doubt this will ever going to happen to reverse to old system after 3 years now.  We've been playing samp for more than 6 years and it is not too difficult to know and confirm who is using Aimbot and similar stuff , but I always find it very hard to prove it. No matter how good evidences you managed to record but there's always benefit of doubt goes in favour cheater due to several reasons. Anyway the best we can do is to wait for an effective Anti-Cheat cheat system.
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Finisher on May 08, 2017, 06:19:47 am
People who use cheats on skinhit are so pathetic.. What's so hard about shooting the damn skin? Anyway I'm a huge fan of lagshoot of course but times are changing and everyone's used on skinhit now, changing to lagshoot wouldn't fix anything tbh. So no.

-1
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Bully on May 08, 2017, 07:44:50 am
-1
want to go back in-time ?
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Post by: Ege on May 08, 2017, 08:45:41 am
As a huge fan of lagshoot, as Fini said I don't think this would change anything in a good way.
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Post by: Rage on May 08, 2017, 09:56:59 am
-1
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Post by: Night_DewiL on May 08, 2017, 10:09:42 am
+1.
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Post by: COBRA on May 08, 2017, 10:27:31 am
+1 I support this idea! Bring bag the lag shoot. Bcuz even 5 years old kid can kill you easily without lag knowledge..
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Post by: Sani on May 08, 2017, 11:02:22 am
-1
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Post by: LPCOLTER on May 08, 2017, 03:00:16 pm
+1 I support this idea! Bring bag the lag shoot. Bcuz even 5 years old kid can kill you easily without lag knowledge..
So now dizzy is a pro?
Btw i most people ain't used to lag shoot somehow but it do exist in saw duels i dunno why sooo -1
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Crash on May 08, 2017, 07:54:02 pm
ehhh... i used to love lagshot,now i'm in love with skinshot. -1
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Kathy on May 08, 2017, 09:42:50 pm
As a huge fan of lagshoot, as Fini said I don't think this would change anything in a good way.

It's better to leave it as it is

-1
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Faro0s on May 08, 2017, 11:30:03 pm
I've always been a fan of lag shoot, skin hit is shit and those people who are using Aimbot and No-recoil are so pathetic as Fini said. But, I agree on bringing back Lag shoot.
+1.
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: WuZi on May 08, 2017, 11:56:11 pm
I feel like players with low ping will become easy targets when lag comp gets disabled, that's why I'm having concerns. But I would trade that anytime if you say we can eliminate the use of aim-hackers.

One ultimate way is to turn off lag compensation and reinstate lag shoot. This will at least eliminate use of all aimbots and at no recoil would be easier to catch.

I Support this +
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Hito on May 09, 2017, 12:15:35 am
+1
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Post by: Shawkhawk did nothing wrong! on May 09, 2017, 01:09:21 am
+1
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Post by: Uthar_Smith on May 09, 2017, 08:13:07 pm
Major -1, why would you downgrade a game?
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Post by: RockOfAges on May 09, 2017, 08:59:27 pm
-1
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Finisher on May 09, 2017, 09:00:04 pm
Major -1, why would you downgrade a game?

Indeed. I was so much against skinhit that I had stopped playing for a while but in all seriousness, why would anyone go back to lagshooting and aim lead crazy high pingers for hours to get a kill? Not to mention how bad and ridiculous it was trying to lock the chainsaw  on a high pinger.

It's very intense and competitive with skinhit, put your “oh any 10 y/o kid can wipe the floor with me now with his 2 months experience” aside. If you want to get better, simply improve your settings to utilize your skills.

Cheaters will always be there, there's nothing we can do about it except for playing and reporting it to the higher ranks to take good care of it. Nobody should be worrying about it because there are people whose job is to worry about it.
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Matt on May 10, 2017, 06:26:26 am
Lag shooting was cool when it was the system by default. Honestly don't care but I wouldn't want to go back to it seeing how many people on this community have poor internet

-1 Sorry
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: M a k a v e l i . on May 10, 2017, 11:20:53 pm
Lead-aim! o/
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Khan on May 11, 2017, 11:15:10 am
Thanks guys for the response. Like I said it was just a suggestion. What we do need however, for
Admins to be quick when banning cheaters.
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: YoMama on May 11, 2017, 08:44:44 pm
Not to mention how bad and ridiculous it was trying to lock the chainsaw  on a high pinger.
Chainsaws are not lagcomped, nades are not lagcomped, cars are not lagcomped, the only thing that is lag comped is shooting from the ground at vehicles and other people on the ground, which, I still believe, fucked up the server. It used to be that you had to actually be able to keep up with the President to kill him, now you just need line of sight with a sniper, and you can just stand somewhere and shoot his tires. Lagcomp puts people driving in cars at a huge disadvantage, which doesn't make any sense when the server centers around driving. Changing back to lagshoot would probably minimize non-GM related DM bullshit (suddenly, dueling on the ground would become as difficult as chasing the President on your own) and make it so people don't need to know the maps like the back of their hand to win as President. Oh, and it would make it harder to cheat.
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Post by: Tounsix on May 11, 2017, 09:09:45 pm
-1
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Post by: Magic on May 11, 2017, 11:24:13 pm
+1
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Post by: Blitz on May 12, 2017, 03:08:27 am
-1
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Post by: MAR. on May 15, 2017, 12:19:05 am
-1  :) :)
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Post by: Faro0s on May 15, 2017, 02:20:36 am
If this idea is implemented,[LoD] clan will leave ptp for ever.
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Kaleth on May 15, 2017, 03:44:34 am

Remember we are good on the bike, and on lagshot it would be very beneficial for us as there would be no need to get off the bike to kill someone
+1
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Manish on May 15, 2017, 05:32:26 am

Remember we are good on the bike, and on lagshot it would be very beneficial for us as there would be no need to get off the bike to kill someone
+1
No dude ! Your aimbot ( Pointer for you lol ) wouldn't work in lag-shot and you'd realise it soon how pathetic your game looks without it.  Apparently you'd have other options in pocket to use in like lag-shot like lag.cs , damage mods , low fps etc.... But hey your fellas are doing it already , they aren't smart with their stuff, when and where to use or not.
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Finisher on May 15, 2017, 07:48:51 am
Everyone needs to shut the fuck up now, nothing is going to change.
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: COBRA on May 15, 2017, 08:06:51 am
Everyone needs to shut the fuck up now, nothing is going to change.
I'll tell you what to do now, go to corner of the room and start to cry... Or get some quality weed, get high and relax. Your pessimistic behave doesn't lead us a step forward for sure. Yet you have shut to fuck up bro, then we can make some process maybe...


Remember we are good on the bike, and on lagshot it would be very beneficial for us as there would be no need to get off the bike to kill someone
+1
No dude ! Your aimbot ( Pointer for you lol ) wouldn't work in lag-shot and you'd realise it soon how pathetic your game looks without it.  Apparently you'd have other options in pocket to use in like lag-shot like lag.cs , damage mods , low fps etc.... But hey your fellas are doing it already , they aren't smart with their stuff, when and where to use or not.
Yeah indeed, you said well manish!

+1 for this suggestion, why don't we have poll to see exact numbers of Yes or No?
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Yash on May 15, 2017, 08:16:59 am
If this change helps in removing aim hackers in any sort of manner , than i am with it ! Yes , as Cobra rightly said , we can have a poll about wether to add it or not !
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Finisher on May 15, 2017, 09:50:44 am
Again, shut the fuck up and lock this topic because it's getting ridiculous.
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Yash on May 15, 2017, 10:11:59 am
Again, shut the fuck up and lock this topic because it's getting ridiculous.
If you find it ridiculous , then just ignore it and stop making stupid replies! Everybody here is allowed to give opinions Finisha :P

Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Manish on May 15, 2017, 10:22:57 am
As usual ,  looking pathetic while struggling to look different and better from the others. gg FiNi
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Finisher on May 15, 2017, 11:09:40 am
Says the leader of a cheating clan, did you feel better when you mocked kaleth? Maybe you will recruit him later on :) just like you recruited Skyfire. Oh you kicked him out! Shit.. Another one! And another one ..  Oh CRASH former cheater and perm banned on previous ptp, HAVE HIM ACCEPTED! Still cheats tho

I still remember you telling me to use cheats because the ones who are better than me are clearly cheating. Oppsss! Pardon me, that was supposed to be private.

Talking non sense as usual, you guys want lagshoot back? Not happening lol. Now continue mocking Kaleth, Manish and Cobra. You both had and still have cheaters in your clans.

The truth stinks, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Manish on May 15, 2017, 11:43:30 am
Nice post FiNi , I guess I just hit to the right area. Well keep whining as I was expecting  , meanwhile we will continue to discuss about the purpose of the whole thread. 
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Finisher on May 15, 2017, 12:10:49 pm
Nice post FiNi , I guess I just hit to the right area. Well keep whining as I was expecting  , meanwhile we will continue to discuss about the purpose of the whole thread.

Continue discussing the purpose of the topic was never to mock Kaleth. I'm not defending that piece of shit but you mocking him as if you're superior and better makes me sick. Because you're just like him, in fact you're even worse.  So I took the opportunity to expose you for the trash that you are, same goes for COBRA.

GgT and PPLV will forever be known for their cheating members in the past, present and the future. So before you want to bully or mock someone at least be better.. That's all I'm saying. :)

Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: M a k a v e l i . on May 15, 2017, 12:24:16 pm
Well, I personally like lead-aim  or what you guys call lagshot, much more than skinshit. All of my mates that I used to roll with, q'ed this game back in 2014. when they made this 0.3z joke and set lagcomp enabled on default. This game is all about bugs and obviously players like it as it is, or we would play MTA:MP today. Then why would you change a thing.., from my POV skinshit just ruined the experience of normal players, SA:MP was about all about lead-aim and one day they just replaced it like that. Damn, I'd love to have it back in here..
I remember, till yesterday there were still a few decent DM servers with lagcomp disabled and today there are only 2-3 left which is really sad. Unfortuntely, whole thing is shutting down. I'll continue playing lead-aim till my last days in this game but nothing would please me more than seeing a couple of public servers I like, such as PTP, running without skinshit again!
I honestly don't see it coming, and I bet new generation of players wouldn't support the idea of bringing lead-aim back, which is normal, I don't blame them. On the other hand, if anyone's looking for some fun and good old lead-aim rounds, just pm me so we can have some joy together!

rip SA:MP
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Fimpen on May 15, 2017, 12:27:10 pm
We are so offtopic now, so there is no point in having this open.

Locked.
Title: Re: Lag comp/lag shoot.
Post by: Jonne on August 26, 2017, 06:04:18 pm
I've done some research on this, 90 to 95 percent of the server on the hosted tab have lag compensation enabled. I think that's a pretty good indicator skinshooting has become the standard in SAMP over lagshooting. I feel that if we want to keep attracting new players, and keep expanding the community, we shouldn't be switching back to lagshooting, now that the majority of the SAMP community is used to skinshooting.