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General => Suggestions => Added => Topic started by: Faro0s on September 08, 2016, 01:50:10 am

Title: [Added]DB duel
Post by: Faro0s on September 08, 2016, 01:50:10 am
Alright I know that this suggestion was suggested a lot of times before, a lot. And no one cared about it.

So i am going to suggest it one more time, i thought if giving it a try since i witnessed an incident about it.
Yesterday one of my friends wanted to have a DB duel with a person, but unfortunately he failed to do so, why ? Because the map was changed three times so he rage quit. Of course he was so depressed, i mean come on after all this work, getting a bike, taking armor and going to airport and suddenly map changes, trust me it will hurt people.

• So here i come suggesting a DB duel command, maybe some guys dislike it but it will be really helpful and fun.
/dbduel (id)
/dbduelaccept (id)
Arena : LV airport. Or a special arena made for DB.
People who go off his bike will lose the duel.
Bikes won't receive damage.
I know it is a lenghty work but i am sure if Jonne and the staff team agree with this suggestion Jonne will surely create one.

A part from this,

Another suggestion.

• clan chat.

I am suggesting that a command could be made that a clan a have a chat between them.
For example, /GgT (msg)
The message will be sent to only GgT Players,

It will be more usefull for clan members to get direct info and maybe play the game mode. Or to notify a player.
It has a system that those players in that clan should receive the message, i really don't know how maybe someone else can suggest better. I just gave the introduction of it.


That's all.

Regards,
Fares.
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Spectre on September 08, 2016, 01:52:52 am
+1 for the DB duels, I want that to be a thing here.
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Yash on September 08, 2016, 03:59:55 am
+1
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Matt on September 08, 2016, 04:30:58 am
+1 Great suggestion

I've coded it before somewhere but it's better if a db duel is handled this way instead of bystanders interrupting it.
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Spectre on September 08, 2016, 04:52:14 am
+1 Great suggestion

I've coded it before somewhere but it's better if a db duel is handled this way instead of bystanders interrupting it.

Oh yeah, I remember DB duels on your server a while ago, it was nicely done. Although I'd prefer the surface to not be desert this time lol


Also, as part of this suggestion, could we maybe get a command that allows spectating duels and DB duels? Something like /duelspec and /dbduelspec?
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Yash on September 08, 2016, 06:02:02 am
+1 Great suggestion

I've coded it before somewhere but it's better if a db duel is handled this way instead of bystanders interrupting it.

Oh yeah, I remember DB duels on your server a while ago, it was nicely done. Although I'd prefer the surface to not be desert this time lol

Yea it would be really nice if we could spec duels!
Also, as part of this suggestion, could we maybe get a command that allows spectating duels and DB duels? Something like /duelspec and /dbduelspec?
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Faro0s on September 08, 2016, 07:02:05 am
+1 Great suggestion

I've coded it before somewhere but it's better if a db duel is handled this way instead of bystanders interrupting it.

Oh yeah, I remember DB duels on your server a while ago, it was nicely done. Although I'd prefer the surface to not be desert this time lol


Also, as part of this suggestion, could we maybe get a command that allows spectating duels and DB duels? Something like /duelspec and /dbduelspec?

I wanted to add this suggestion too but I forgot, good that you posted it.
+1
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Manish on September 08, 2016, 07:22:24 am
+1
This was suggested several times in past and this idea always got good response from many players. So If it is possible to add DB duels then it'd be good and pretty interesting thing in server.


Also as Spectre suggesting about Specting duels it'd be cool too to add it. I've seen this feature in some servers and it is really cool , there are commands for it like /watchduel [id] , /stopwatch etc.



And about clan chat so i don't think we need it , we can simply use mumble or teamspeak if we really need better communication with clan members. 
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Sani on September 08, 2016, 11:11:51 am
+1 on the db duel


Also as Spectre suggesting about Specting duels it'd be cool too to add it. I've seen this feature in some servers and it is really cool , there are commands for it like /watchduel [id] , /stopwatch etc.



And about clan chat so i don't think we need it , we can simply use mumble or teamspeak if we really need better communication with clan members. 
and +1 on this :D
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Chaos on September 08, 2016, 11:12:40 am
+1
This was suggested several times in past and this idea always got good response from many players. So If it is possible to add DB duels then it'd be good and pretty interesting thing in server.


Also as Spectre suggesting about Specting duels it'd be cool too to add it. I've seen this feature in some servers and it is really cool , there are commands for it like /watchduel [id] , /stopwatch etc.



And about clan chat so i don't think we need it , we can simply use mumble or teamspeak if we really need better communication with clan members.

No need for clan chats
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Rage on September 08, 2016, 04:04:14 pm
+1
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Quido on September 08, 2016, 04:30:38 pm
DB duel is cool but it's a no for the clan chat.
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: KinG. on September 08, 2016, 04:34:57 pm
+1
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: TreePuncher on September 08, 2016, 05:44:06 pm
+1 for the DB duel.
As for the clan chat, it's a big nope.
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Faro0s on September 08, 2016, 06:59:32 pm
I don't understand, why do people vote negative for the clan chat without any reason ? xD

Thanks for the positive votes, so shall we just wait for Jonne's reply or more votes or opinions are necessary?
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Vishwas on September 08, 2016, 07:10:46 pm
I don't understand, why do people vote negative for the clan chat without any reason ? xD
You have your teamspeak,you mostly join one team with your clan members,use teamchat. This isn't a A/D server,it has its own gamemode and clans aren't the top priority.
It would be too much work making a clan based chat system. That's enough for a NO.

+1 for db duel.
But with which vehicle? Which weapon(in drive by) ?

There is a big circular stadium where these duels can take place. Will have to find its interior ID
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Miau on September 08, 2016, 07:29:22 pm
Drive by duels are a good idea, they should've been added long ago. Ability to spectate duels is really good as well, duels without spectators aren't the same :p
You should also make it possible to have multiple duels simultaneously using the same arena but different virtual worlds.
Clan chat isn't necessary. It just encourages clan-based gameplay rather than teams and gamemode-based gameplay, which is the way PTP was meant to be played when designed...
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Spectre on September 08, 2016, 08:20:29 pm
But with which vehicle? Which weapon(in drive by) ?

I suggest NRG-500 bikes and Tec-9 as weapons, since Uzis deal more damage and are kinda OP in skinshoot DB.

You should also make it possible to have multiple duels simultaneously using the same arena but different virtual worlds.

Good thinking, I forgot to mention that :P
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Faro0s on September 08, 2016, 09:46:48 pm
No spoc, MP5 is more better as a Drive by fighter.

And i support Mia's idea.
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Alcor on September 08, 2016, 10:33:36 pm
no for clan chat, yes for db duels.
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Spectre on September 08, 2016, 10:47:03 pm
No spoc, MP5 is more better as a Drive by fighter.

Lmao did you even read what I said? MP5 is the most damaging weapon for DB, it would be dumb to put a weapon that can end the duel in seconds. Better to have a less damaging weapon so that duels can last a little longer, since they are already shortened by skinshoot
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Faro0s on September 09, 2016, 12:47:58 am
No spoc, MP5 is more better as a Drive by fighter.

Lmao did you even read what I said? MP5 is the most damaging weapon for DB, it would be dumb to put a weapon that can end the duel in seconds. Better to have a less damaging weapon so that duels can last a little longer, since they are already shortened by skinshoot

You mentioned uzis brah.

I think you are right better to add either Tecs or Uzis.
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Spectre on September 09, 2016, 01:11:55 am
You mentioned uzis brah.

I suggest NRG-500 bikes and Tec-9 as weapons, since Uzis deal more damage and are kinda OP in skinshoot DB.

Uzi > Tec-9, therefore Uzis should not be the weapon for DB duels.


Question for scripters: is it possible to make the bikes completely resistant to damage during drive-by? Also, dismounting the bike in the middle of the DB duel shouldn't be possible, or at least be punishable by losing the duel.
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: TreePuncher on September 09, 2016, 02:55:54 am
Question for scripters: is it possible to make the bikes completely resistant to damage during drive-by? Also, dismounting the bike in the middle of the DB duel shouldn't be possible, or at least be punishable by losing the duel.
It's doable.
If I am not mistaken, you can keep those bikes at 10000HP (normal vehicle health is 1000HP), repair & set health back incase damage is inflicted to it.

Or, you can just use bycicles, they can't explode anyways. haha

As for the dismount part.
I can't recall any ways to keep someone locked to a vehicle, so DQ'ing the dude that dismounts seems way easier.
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Vishwas on September 09, 2016, 04:44:36 am
Players shouldn't be locked to vehicle, no one would press the enter/exit key I suppose. And what if the opponent is rammed hard and the player fell off,he should be rewarded by a win. Players will be forced anyways to leave the vehicle if its on fire
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Faro0s on September 09, 2016, 06:59:25 am
I think Tecs will be fine,
And yes I mentioned all the points when I opened the topic.

• vehicles shouldn't be damaged.
• players pressing enter in-order to be on foot will lose the duel.
• if the player is rammed by the opponent, must be rewarded by a win. ( i am not sure)
• special duel arena, or LV airport. I think it will be better if the DB will go on a special arena.
• ability to spectate duels.

Btw i noticed something, some hackers spawning Jetpack or Minigun and they won't be banned by AntiCheat.
Why?
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Kathy on September 09, 2016, 09:08:59 am
I like db idea. I don't think we need clan chat, Jonne would be adding specific commands to the game and what if the clan closes?

Players shouldn't be locked to vehicle, no one would press the enter/exit key I suppose.

I don't think someone would press the enter/exit key, but shit happens. Anyone could press it by mistake.

I think Tecs will be fine,
And yes I mentioned all the points when I opened the topic.

• vehicles shouldn't be damaged.
• players pressing enter in-order to be on foot will lose the duel.
• special duel arena, or LV airport. I think it will be better if the DB will go on a special arena.
• ability to spectate duels.

+1

• if the player is rammed by the opponent, must be rewarded by a win. ( i am not sure)

-1
The rammed player should lose.
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Vishwas on September 09, 2016, 09:47:51 am
I don't think its possible to keep player in vehicle if hr falls of.  If the bike has godmode(1000+) health the duels would take way more time. And it would be challenging too to manage your vehicle health as well your HP. No?
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Finisher on September 09, 2016, 10:27:39 am
Great “past it's time” suggestion.. Not fun anymore. -1
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Spectre on September 09, 2016, 01:59:40 pm
Players will be forced anyways to leave the vehicle if its on fire

That is exactly why I proposed to make the bikes completely resistant to damage.

If the bike has godmode(1000+) health the duels would take way more time.

No lol, skinshooting itself has shortened DB duels when compared to lagshooting. It is very frustrating when your bike takes more damage than your opponent's, so why just not eliminate that problem so that everyone can focus only on the fight
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Goldy on September 09, 2016, 02:32:42 pm
+1 on the db duel


Also as Spectre suggesting about Specting duels it'd be cool too to add it. I've seen this feature in some servers and it is really cool , there are commands for it like /watchduel [id] , /stopwatch etc.



And about clan chat so i don't think we need it , we can simply use mumble or teamspeak if we really need better communication with clan members. 
and +1 on this :D

^^
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Storm on September 09, 2016, 03:39:14 pm
+1 for the DB duel

-1 for the clan chat. We can use any messaging apps to do that

About spectating duels, it could be abused to evade death
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Faro0s on September 09, 2016, 04:00:27 pm
Spoctre pls, you are right.

And one more thing, when i am DBing even in skin shoot i Lag hit them in order to create damage. Happens to me only ? Or everyone?
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Ege on September 09, 2016, 04:41:38 pm
Great “past it's time” suggestion.. Not fun anymore. -1
This. It was pretty entertaining back in lagshoot, it doesn't even make sense anymore.
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: YoMama on September 09, 2016, 05:57:18 pm
The clan chat would waste valuable coding time creating something that would only serve a small percentage of players. Also, it would put whomever is coding it in the position of having to determine which clans are legitimate enough to merit their own chat command, all so that clans can use text chat instead of using TeamSpeak, which is better anyway.
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: SwirlyMan on September 09, 2016, 06:43:05 pm
DB Duel is nice, also we should add cmd like /watchduel or /specduel
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Matt on September 09, 2016, 06:44:00 pm
Oh yeah, I remember DB duels on your server a while ago, it was nicely done. Although I'd prefer the surface to not be desert this time lol
Almost but I should have added godmode on the vehicles and put it in a better arena (later changed it to the roof of the Las Venturas PTP Spawn) :P
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Faro0s on September 10, 2016, 11:38:34 am
Anything new here ?

I think (we) I added all the points needed.

Where is jonne ? D:
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Chaos on September 10, 2016, 03:30:03 pm
Anything new here ?

I think (we) I added all the points needed.

Where is jonne ? D:

A lot of suggestions going on and a lot of work in the server happening too , so can´t hope that jonne put right way all suggestions that people say , give people space and time to work .
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Tounsix on September 10, 2016, 07:45:02 pm
+ for DB duel
- For clan chat.
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Faro0s on September 11, 2016, 06:08:29 am
Anything new here ?

I think (we) I added all the points needed.

Where is jonne ? D:

A lot of suggestions going on and a lot of work in the server happening too , so can´t hope that jonne put right way all suggestions that people say , give people space and time to work .

Alright I understand, thanks for telling.
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Jonne on September 12, 2016, 02:11:58 pm
DB duels have been added (/dbduel [id], /dbduelaccept [id], /cdbduel). /watchduel will be in one of the next updates.
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Spectre on September 12, 2016, 02:50:44 pm
DB duels have been added (/dbduel [id], /dbduelaccept [id], /cdbduel). /watchduel will be in one of the next updates.

Great, thanks man! :)
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Faro0s on September 12, 2016, 09:48:01 pm
DB duels have been added (/dbduel [id], /dbduelaccept [id], /cdbduel). /watchduel will be in one of the next updates.

Thank you Jonne. Glad you added it.
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Alcor on September 13, 2016, 03:18:12 am
Thanks jonne!
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Punch. on September 13, 2016, 05:05:20 am
Good job :)
Title: Re: DB duel
Post by: Jonne on September 14, 2016, 01:21:37 pm
The fences in the db duel arena have been removed, the streamer seemed to cause players to timeout for some reason so I had to remove it. I'll have to look for a new arena that isn't in a virtual world, so it will probably be somewhere over the water, out of the map.

Spectating duels has been added (only for normal duels right now). You can use /watchduel, this command gives you a camera in the middle of the arena or /watchduel ID to spectate a specific player. /stopwd is to stop watching.