Plan B

General => Suggestions => Closed => Topic started by: Madman on December 10, 2017, 03:50:29 pm

Title: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: Madman on December 10, 2017, 03:50:29 pm
Hi guys.I wanna start with this instance at first.In NSA,when a president camps in area 69,bunch of terrorists hydras will shoot the entrance of going inside it and kills whoever is close there.But in Original game,when we fly around area 69 with an aircraft,the surface missiles will start shooting homing rockets to take us down.I was suggesting to Re-add the Surface to air missiles of area 69 JUST IN NSA.And there must be a anti-teamshooting system or sth like this for these homing missiles which cant shoot their own team and i have an idea for this.
Turning on these homing missiles are by ourself,how?!When a president wants to turn on them,he has to go to the Control room which also in Original game exists in Black Project mission which cj can possibly go to the control room and turns off them (Control room is where there's the game's map on a table).When president turns it on,Just the president's team are allow to use aircrafts around area69.
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: Deadman on December 10, 2017, 06:01:45 pm
Not bad. I think this will work but there's a bit problem to script the enabling and disabling SAM on team hydras.
I support but lets see what others say and also what other ideas can be dig up
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: BugsBunny on December 10, 2017, 06:24:54 pm
Well that would make it more competitive to go hunt the pres but still,its fair because everytime you try to go to area  and terrors has already hydra you are pretty dead actually,so why not?
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: Spectre on December 10, 2017, 06:38:15 pm
I'm not sure this is a good idea tbh. While it does sound good and will probably give more chances to Presidents for survival, I don't understand this part:

Turning on these homing missiles are by ourself,how?!When a president wants to turn on them,he has to go to the Control room which also in Original game exists in Black Project mission which cj can possibly go to the control room and turns off them (Control room is where there's the game's map on a table).When president turns it on,Just the president's team are allow to use aircrafts around area69.

So your idea is that the SAM are disabled at the beginning of the round, and that the President must activate it when he gets to Area 69? If so, he'll probably be dead already before he can turn them on, since Terrorists usually get there much faster than Presi and the fact that the control tower is out in the open.
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: Haunter on December 10, 2017, 06:45:21 pm
Actually this is a great idea considering the fact that there are an abundance of Hydra's all around there doing this will make it more competitive for the pilots (more fun). However this should be toggled by a command just like /bu and the other president commands. +1
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: COBRA on December 10, 2017, 08:19:24 pm
Good idea +1
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: M a k a v e l i . on December 10, 2017, 08:55:45 pm
Yes I like it, would make things harder.
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: Crash on December 10, 2017, 09:23:56 pm
What would be the challenge then?
Hydra missiles can't damage the president and his team when he is inside of area51.
And all of them would mostly camp inside without searching for new places to survive those 15minutes.
There is hundred of tactics to bring hydra down but you are all lazy to stop for a minute and shoot it down. You all rush inside no mather what.
-1
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: YoMama on December 10, 2017, 09:44:13 pm
This is ridiculous. You want to add something that does your work for you? In that case, I'd like to add an NPC that drives me around as President. If your security team is too stupid to get a Rustler or Hydra, then that's not a reason to add in near-useless SAMs. They'll only shoot down morons and annoy everyone else.
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: Freckles on December 11, 2017, 03:22:08 am
-1
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: Mive on December 11, 2017, 05:35:20 am
Yeah I could say this will help the new incoming players from the lacking help from security.  +1

Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: Satvik on December 11, 2017, 05:43:39 am
Thats a nice idea, as hydra is op if president lack security. But the only negative part is that, that every president will camp at area 69 as its more safer.
But +1 for this suggestion
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: Madman on December 11, 2017, 10:48:14 am
What would be the challenge then?
Hydra missiles can't damage the president and his team when he is inside of area51.
And all of them would mostly camp inside without searching for new places to survive those 15minutes.
There is hundred of tactics to bring hydra down but you are all lazy to stop for a minute and shoot it down. You all rush inside no mather what.
-1
Everyplayers aren't exprienced like you said,the newbies or players which are unskilled would need them
This is ridiculous. You want to add something that does your work for you? In that case, I'd like to add an NPC that drives me around as President. If your security team is too stupid to get a Rustler or Hydra, then that's not a reason to add in near-useless SAMs. They'll only shoot down morons and annoy everyone else.
The name of the server is Protect the President not annoying and no one talked about that,We all know how to fly rustlers and hydras,when 70 or 80 of players will try as terrorists and civs presi needs a serious help cuz he cant survive with less than 6 or 5 securities which hardly follow their duty.
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: sehbja on December 11, 2017, 01:16:58 pm
What would be the challenge then?
Hydra missiles can't damage the president and his team when he is inside of area51.
And all of them would mostly camp inside without searching for new places to survive those 15minutes.
There is hundred of tactics to bring hydra down but you are all lazy to stop for a minute and shoot it down. You all rush inside no mather what.
-1
Everyplayers aren't exprienced like you said,the newbies or players which are unskilled would need them
This is ridiculous. You want to add something that does your work for you? In that case, I'd like to add an NPC that drives me around as President. If your security team is too stupid to get a Rustler or Hydra, then that's not a reason to add in near-useless SAMs. They'll only shoot down morons and annoy everyone else.
The name of the server is Protect the President not annoying and no one talked about that,We all know how to fly rustlers and hydras,when 70 or 80 of players will try as terrorists and civs presi needs a serious help cuz he cant survive with less than 6 or 5 securities which hardly follow their duty.

70 to 80 terrorists?not even 10% of that number actively try when there is a vip pres with security plus there are cops with two hydras near their spawn who can easily distract the terrors for the presi for few seconds to allow him to reach the bottom of area 69 to be safe from hydra.No need for this SAM system.

-1 for suggestion.
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: Magic on December 11, 2017, 02:03:06 pm
+1 Lets give it a try :P
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: SoLoD on December 11, 2017, 02:16:50 pm
Pres enable that system -> no terror`s aircraft above the area -> cops/secs with hydras killing everything inside the area -> no chance to get in for terrors.

Do you even understand that the hardest part for president is to get inside the area? Because when all area is under sec/cop control, and terrors are trying to get in, and terrors with cops in hydras are bombing the area, cops/secs do not get a damage, because they are INSIDE, and terrors are OUTSIDE and get damage. Why there should be even worse situation for terrors?

Again, presi has very good chance to survive inside the area, and that system will only increase that chances.
On the other side, when president is not the first president on the map, chance that he will get inside the area is not that big, and your system wil not change it.
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on December 11, 2017, 02:30:09 pm
Just diversify Area 69 a bit. It gets boring as there is practically only 1 safe bunker for presi.
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: Pranesh on December 11, 2017, 02:54:27 pm
well this thing can work if system takes down every single hydra present in the boundaries of Area, or else this is what will happen.
Pres enable that system -> no terror`s aircraft above the area -> cops/secs with hydras killing everything inside the area -> no chance to get in for terrors.
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: Storm on December 11, 2017, 03:06:06 pm
Let's try this one first, but we have to remove those walls in area 51 or at least put more entrances to it so terrorists can still go inside by land
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: Maddy on December 11, 2017, 03:20:14 pm
Sounds very interesting. But about turning them on by a President isn't a good idea. It should be scripted.
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: FlapJack[M.I.B] on December 11, 2017, 03:20:58 pm
I support this suggestion +1, lets see what others would say. 👍👍
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: Barbarianking on December 11, 2017, 04:11:18 pm
Sounds good
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: YoMama on December 11, 2017, 05:00:04 pm
Pres enable that system -> no terror`s aircraft above the area -> cops/secs with hydras killing everything inside the area -> no chance to get in for terrors.

Do you even understand that the hardest part for president is to get inside the area? Because when all area is under sec/cop control, and terrors are trying to get in, and terrors with cops in hydras are bombing the area, cops/secs do not get a damage, because they are INSIDE, and terrors are OUTSIDE and get damage. Why there should be even worse situation for terrors?

Again, presi has very good chance to survive inside the area, and that system will only increase that chances.
On the other side, when president is not the first president on the map, chance that he will get inside the area is not that big, and your system wil not change it.
This ^.
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: MegaPilot on December 11, 2017, 06:10:04 pm
Pres enable that system -> no terror`s aircraft above the area -> cops/secs with hydras killing everything inside the area -> no chance to get in for terrors.

Do you even understand that the hardest part for president is to get inside the area? Because when all area is under sec/cop control, and terrors are trying to get in, and terrors with cops in hydras are bombing the area, cops/secs do not get a damage, because they are INSIDE, and terrors are OUTSIDE and get damage. Why there should be even worse situation for terrors?

Again, presi has very good chance to survive inside the area, and that system will only increase that chances.
On the other side, when president is not the first president on the map, chance that he will get inside the area is not that big, and your system wil not change it.
This guy gets it.

If you implement this system, you just can't enter Area 69 as a terrorist because cops with hydras will just bomb the shit out of everyone. You can't allow only one class with hydras near Area 69, that's just plain dumb.
Title: Re: Surface-To-Air-Missile
Post by: Jonne on December 20, 2017, 03:59:30 pm
As some people pointed out already, I don't think it's a good idea to add this.