Plan B
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: SoLoD on January 04, 2018, 04:01:13 am
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Khe-khe 8)
I want YOU, "piece of community", to watch this video.
And i want YOU to share your thoughts about it.
I am not making this topic in a report section (yet), but i am making it here, to discuss the very old question.
JHON told me (in that topic) that it is very interesting for admins to see what players think about their job. Well, it is very interesting for me too, to listen what everyone else think.
Also he said, that a "problem of rules" is a very, very important for administration, they are thinking about it days and nights from the very beginning of this server (1+ year, right?) and 2+ months after my topic. And they do not make a shit about it YET.
1st thing i want to add: we (terrors, 2 of us) arrived to the armor spawn way before securities.
2nd thing is: months ago i was reported (this report is also inside that topic) by terror for killing him when he was chasing me and came 3-5 meters close. So, in that report admin said that i broke /duty rule.
In that report i was driving to president, and terror came to me by himself.
So, the facts are:
1. Pranesh, Glen, Tuco - 2 mods and an oldfag (who was banned, correct me if i am wrong). JHON told me that there is no way mods/admins to do not know server rules. And a man who was banned probably know rules too.
2. Instead of going to president (staying close to president, doing your best etc) they decided to attack terrorists (who were not camping or something, just were about to leave armor spawn) "somewhere else".
Why do i post here THAT example? Because unlike me (when i was security) they are the ones who attacked terrorists instead of driving to the president. And i was "warned" even if i was driving to pres and terror was the one who was chasing me.
So, i am kinda confused about this statements admins said to me: admins know rules, admins do not break rules, rules are working and they are cool, we are working on this question. Help me to catch "ptp reality" by sharing your thoughts in this topic.
For the "+/- 1" adepts i`ve made a poll.
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maybe bhai was just drunk
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Secs that dont follow /duty its not something new...
From that topic you tslk about it was 3 months ago and untill now nothing happen with " fix the rule"
Solod you right,people hate this that the rules 100% shit and mod's cant punish those who not follow rules.
And admins belive that punishment will not solve this problem.
Go and think about other soultion.
We will keep waiting to see how you think about "other rule that will fix it".
Solod how do you think we can fix that rule? And i am with you on that topic GG!
Admins please wake up!
The duty rule broken alot of times and you dont handle that...
Last week i saw some people who break the rules.
I reported them,admins didnt do nothing just post msg on screen- "follow /duty please"
Punish people who dont follow rules.
Not hacking- it is rule too and you ban people who dont follow this rule.
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Solod, i think,when a security kills a terrorist who is approaching him, even when somwhere away from presi, it is fair and shouldn't be something to get warned for. You can't just wait for the terro to keep chasing u till u are close to president and thus increasing threat to president. Or worse, the terro might have dbed ur vehicle and leave u on foot. (Haven't checked ur old report.. saying this in general).
In this video i believe these securities were coming to armour to refill, and engaged with you maybe because they knew you would have engaged first if they hadn't. Also, was Kenny[Pplv] with these securities (glen tuco and pranesh) when dani(terro) killed him? If yes, then it is highly probable that dani (and maybe you too) attacked them first and triggered them.
These secs could have avoided the armour where terros are already present OR they could have also avoided shooting u , IF you two showed no signs of engaging,( like shooting or taking cover). But these are their choice and neither one of these cases is a rule break imo. In any case, imo, killing terros this way is NOT against duty (assuming that these secs drive to armour just to refill). You can't expect a security and a terrorist to just take their armour amd leave with a handshake.
Neither one of that option in poll is correct option for this case. For the old report u made, I'd completely agree with u that the warning was not justified (it was biased as people usually see u driving away from presi and maybe that's why the staff assumed or purposely portrayed that u are not following duty)
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Good you're trying to show the community something but adding senseless options to the pole just makes anyone take the pole not seriously. I guess works if you're a SoLoD.
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Probably they were just going to armor and when they saw some terrors, they decided to kill them. That's why.. There is no such a rule like as "stick to president's ass while you are security". There is just a rule securitiyes must follow their duty: Their duty is protect the president. But when they are on way to president and they not gonna shoot back to terrors, so how da hell they gonna protect the president?
So there must be some circle on map around president, securities must be stay in in that circle and even they have to spawn in that circle if they just gonna stick president.
Also you are right Solod, because some of securities abusing it sometimes. But not everyone does that. If you wanna show that secus abusing his duty, report with good proofs. Otherwise what can admins do with that video you just posted up there?
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You are pretty funny Solod. You have been doing the exact same thing the last few days when you play Security. And now when someone else is doing exact what you did, you complain. Hypocrite much?
Hard to take anything you say or do seriously..
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I like your poll options ❤️.
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Well,i've made my choice
Anime is better than PTP administration
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Well,i've made my choice
Anime is better than PTP administration
You can't fap on PTP administration!
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Three securities taking out two Terrorists when arriving armor to refill, I don't see any problem, you can't expect opposing teams to ceasefire at armor, they protect the president by taking out an in-coming threat while refilling and continue protecting? you also can't ignore that part of the duty, and no that doesn't mean you can roam freely hunting them down everywhere, they were refilling
Quit complaining, take it easy man
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I like your poll options ❤️.
man's not hawt
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inuyashiki > PTP administration
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There's no way we can figure out if they started hunting terrorists out of nothing or they were defending themselves on their way to presi, unless you have more than a 10 seconds video.
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I'll explain the whole scenario to you Solod, which your video did not.
President was fighting on the bridge near stadium armor when we came here, we just took armor and were on our way back to president but we found tuco on our way back who was low on health so we came back to armor so that he can re-fill(Going by the duty rule, it is totally allowed for a security to leave the president and refill).
We this time encountered 2 terrorists, which i know where trying to kill the president as we did fight more than once that time on the same map under the same president. I henceforth had not even a single doubt in my head about you guys. We were pretty clear that you guys would've shot us even if we do avoid you.
The duty rule never said that as a security
1) You can not fight unless you are around the president.
2) You can not be far away from the president.
3) You can not Engage in a fight on your way to president.
What it do say is
1) You are not allowed to just roam around all the time as a security and chase down enemies.
2) You are not allowed to camp at armor spawn like cops do.
According to which we never broke any rule as we just arrived at the armor, had a nice fight and GlennN.(he was the lone survivor and went to the president).
I hope i did clear your doubts, if not feel free to contact me anytime and anywhere you feel comfortable talking about it.
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Go and think about other soultion.
You are wrong if you think that i am the man who should "think about other soultion".
I am just random regular, i am not the one who should "fix" the rules. Because there are a lot of admins and that admins are saying that they KNOW about this problem, they are TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION, and the only thing i am doing is pointing their attention on a one single point - THEY ARE NOT DOING A SINGLE SHIT ABOUT IT. Not a single fix was added to the rules. Since i`ve made my topic, since JHON became "the very main person" here.
Good you're trying to show the community something but adding senseless options to the pole just makes anyone take the pole not seriously. I guess works if you're a SoLoD.
Everything i want to say about this particular rule and rules at all - i`ve said it before (few months before), so i just wanna know what admins and players are thinking about it now, months after everything was said and months of disregarding this problem.
There is no such a rule like as "stick to president's ass while you are security". There is just a rule securitiyes must follow their duty: Their duty is protect the president. But when they are on way to president and they not gonna shoot back to terrors, so how da hell they gonna protect the president?
First of all, you will be surprised, but there IS a rule, and that rule is exactly about "stick to president's ass while you are security".
Open /rules in the game, you will see this: secs must follow their duty -> open /duty as sec -> "you need to stay close to him (pres)".
And in this example securities were not on their way to president. President was camping under cops spawn, and secs were on the SF stadium armor spawn. Now, look at the map and see the distance between them. Their actions gave that pres 0 advantage.
Three securities taking out two Terrorists when arriving armor to refill, I don't see any problem, you can't expect opposing teams to ceasefire at armor, they protect the president by taking out an in-coming threat while refilling and continue protecting? you also can't ignore that part of the duty, and no that doesn't mean you can roam freely hunting them down everywhere, they were refilling
Quit complaining, take it easy man
Actually, I CAN. I was warned many times as sec, many other players were warned as secs before, and i still can not understand a shit about this rule. Every single part of this fucking rule is irrelevant, stay close to pres, do your best. And every single admin here can not understand a very simple idea: this rule determines this gamemode. You (admins) not only can not solve this problem, but you are ignoring it as a problem.
You are pretty funny Solod. You have been doing the exact same thing the last few days when you play Security. And now when someone else is doing exact what you did, you complain. Hypocrite much?
Hard to take anything you say or do seriously..
Do you know what i find funny here? Every time any ptp admin is opening his mouth, i am preparing myself to hear some BULLSHIT.
Do you wanna hear something about ME? Okay. When i am sec, sometimes i am not "staying close to president" because i know that i will do MORE if i will not "stay close to him". Sometime, when i have 10 hp, instead of going derectly to a president, i am going to an armor spawn (but i am trying to do it when armor spawn is located between me and presdent and terrors are not killing pres atm), sometimes i am going directly to president even if i have 10 hp (if i see that terrrors are pretty close to him), and yes, i think that sometimes i am doing exactly what this secs did - not following /duty because circumstances are "ambiguous" and you need to "break" this rule to "help" president.
But now i want to say something about YOU as an admin, because "crooked" rule is only 1 part of this problem. We had this rule 8 years ago without any problems, so it is not only about "bad rule". The other part of this problem is admins.
So, let me tell you what i see when i am looking at your post: YOU, MOTHERFUCKING ADMIN, IS COMING TO A TOPIC AND SAYING THAT YOU, MOTHERFUCKING ADMIN, WITNESSED A SITUATION WHERE I BROKE THE RULE, AND YOU DID NOTHING.
So, as long as i am the man who always explaining simple things to a dumbasses here, let me help YOU this time: the only single objective of admins on this server (or any other server) is to protect their own rules from being broken. That is your duty, and now you are saying that you are not follow your "admin`s duty" and this is your "argument" in your post? Do you think you are making a favor to me or this server when not follow your /duty, mr. "head admin"?
I'll explain the whole scenario to you Solod, which your video did not.
I appreciate it. You are telling your "point of view", and i can tell mine.
President was in the airport, then he went to a cop`s spawn, and we (2 terrors) came to sf stadium. Then, ~10 secs after, you arrived and killed me in 1,2345 seconds (that is why i only have that short video). You can say that you came just to refill armor, i can say that you attacked us when pres was miles away.
But the facts are: your actions had 0 impact to a president`s survivance (so, you were not doing "your best" to help president), you were not staying "close" to a president, president did not gave you an order to go to a SF stadium (well, i do not know it, but if i am right, pres was newbie and probably you diceded to do it by yourselfs).
The duty rule never said that as a security
1) You can not fight unless you are around the president.
2) You can not be far away from the president.
3) You can not Engage in a fight on your way to president.
Well, it is very interesting statements for me, because when i was sec, and a terror decided to chase us (and we killed him), admin said that we broke /duty rule. And now you are saying that we did not broke that rule.
"You can not be far away from the president."??? Actually, your /duty is saying that you need to "stay close to him". So, you can not be far away from him.
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There’s a very ease way to settle this, stop playing as Security and stop recording Security not following duty
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He was done wrong, it is his right to prove that he's innocent
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Stop being butthurt and play the God damn game.
I'm not going to discuss this things anymore.. No one gives a shit about it tbh
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Here what the point is.
The Topic serves as a continuation to the older topics of SoLoD where he was affected for doing relatively the same shit and I didn't see anyone standing up for him iirc.
Now this is your typical SoLoD post:
SoLoD himself makes valid points but mixes it with his arrogance de mierda,mixes some irrelevant ad hominems,Rage and Angree Posts and that makes his whole topic look like a 12 yo raging feg from a rudimentary perspective.
A few people agree with him and get what the post means.
More people blindly shit on SoLoD for Status Quo De Mierda.
Most don't read it and label it as another raging 12 yo feg post.
Now time to get on the post and no I will not have a skip button this time,you nibbas will have to scroll:
The whole point of this topic is to show the contradictory reactions to a same situation.
Done.
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,Rage and Angree
Yeah?
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Lol i remember last month u played as security and came with rustler and hunting Me and some PPLV and forget ur /duty. Now u came here and complain. Well done :O
LOLOL THIS IS JUST A GAME)
Lel, are you talking about RC map (near airport`s HP spot)?
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Lol i remember last month u played as security and came with rustler and hunting Me and some PPLV and forget ur /duty. Now u came here and complain. Well done :O
LOLOL THIS IS JUST A GAME)
Lel, are you talking about RC map (near airport`s HP spot)?
lmao, solod. You don't even follow duty yourself. You just go to armour and hunt terrorists.
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Lol i remember last month u played as security and came with rustler and hunting Me and some PPLV and forget ur /duty. Now u came here and complain. Well done :O
LOLOL THIS IS JUST A GAME)
Lel, are you talking about RC map (near airport`s HP spot)?
Yes
So, listen. When you were fighting (10-12 players, cops vs terrors) i was flying around that fight because you were the closest terrors to the president. And when terrors killed all cops, i decided to attack (1 v all left terrors) because i knew that i can not stop all terrors IF they will decide to go and kill president.
Lol i remember last month u played as security and came with rustler and hunting Me and some PPLV and forget ur /duty. Now u came here and complain. Well done :O
LOLOL THIS IS JUST A GAME)
Lel, are you talking about RC map (near airport`s HP spot)?
lmao, solod. You don't even follow duty yourself. You just go to armour and hunt terrorists.
LMAO YES. I AM NOT FOLLOWING RULES WITH DUTY AND ADMINS STILL DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. WONDERING WHY.
Am i the problem or something/someone else?
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lol since when and the president is near us? + were we hunting the president?
when did i said that i gave a fuck what were you doing?
you were the closest group of terrorists to president, so that was my decision to attack your group.
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Lol i remember last month u played as security and came with rustler and hunting Me and some PPLV and forget ur /duty. Now u came here and complain. Well done :O
LOLOL THIS IS JUST A GAME)
Lel, are you talking about RC map (near airport`s HP spot)?
Yes
So, listen. When you were fighting (10-12 players, cops vs terrors) i was flying around that fight because you were the closest terrors to the president. And when terrors killed all cops, i decided to attack (1 v all left terrors) because i knew that i can not stop all terrors IF they will decide to go and kill president.
Lol i remember last month u played as security and came with rustler and hunting Me and some PPLV and forget ur /duty. Now u came here and complain. Well done :O
LOLOL THIS IS JUST A GAME)
Lel, are you talking about RC map (near airport`s HP spot)?
lmao, solod. You don't even follow duty yourself. You just go to armour and hunt terrorists.
LMAO YES. I AM NOT FOLLOWING RULES WITH DUTY AND ADMINS STILL DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. WONDERING WHY.
Am i the problem or something/someone else?
Yes, you are a part of the problem.
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Just ignore this guy and his attention grabbing posts.
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Just ignore this guy and his attention grabbing posts.
Bro,solod right we got so many problems with /duty.
Need to fix that rule.
When it is will happen , i dont know.
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Magic & Curry, why you, two clowns, do not want to go to a report section and make a report?
I can guarantee, than unlike every single motherfucker (regular OR admin) i will tell on your report only truth, and we will see if i was wrong.
Because if you do not think that i`ve broken the rule then why do you even open your filthy mouth?
And if you think that i am a rulebreaker then go and report.
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Make him mod!
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I am with SoLoD here.
/Duty is a mess, and one of the biggest problems in PlanB.
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Magic & Curry, why you, two clowns, do not want to go to a report section and make a report?
I can guarantee, than unlike every single motherfucker (regular OR admin) i will tell on your report only truth, and we will see if i was wrong.
Because if you do not think that i`ve broken the rule then why do you even open your filthy mouth?
And if you think that i am a rulebreaker then go and report.
Because I don't give a single fuck about you, lmao.
Just don't be a hypocrite.
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hypocrite.
wow, it's interesting how you call people hypocrites when you are a hypocrite yourself.
(https://i.imgur.com/OQOc7kF.png)
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hypocrite.
wow, it's interesting how you call people hypocrites when you are a hypocrite yourself.
(https://i.imgur.com/OQOc7kF.png)
Clearly you don't understand the word 'hypocrite'.
Me reclassing is clearly allowed.
Not following duty as security is not allowed.
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hypocrite.
wow, it's interesting how you call people hypocrites when you are a hypocrite yourself.
(https://i.imgur.com/OQOc7kF.png)
Clearly you don't understand the word 'hypocrite'.
Me reclassing is clearly allowed.
Not following duty as security is not allowed.
a hypocritical person.
"a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs."
Pretending to follow rules while exploiting them for your own advantage because it's allowed (but unfair) is not hypocritical? k.
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10/10.
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I am with SoLoD here.
/Duty is a mess, and one of the biggest problems in PlanB.
I guess enough said by you 8),this problem will never be fixed.
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DO /DUTY OR I WILL REPORT
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I am with SoLoD here.
/Duty is a mess, and one of the biggest problems in PlanB.
I guess enough said by you 8),this problem will never be fixed.
Everything can be fixed BRUDDA. You just need to KNOW DA WEI.
and believe me I will find our queen and know da wei.
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y-I gyot a wei. Y nyeed som tym to myake yit yon syojetion!
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y-I gyot a wei. Y nyeed som tym to myake yit yon syojetion!
"I got a wei. i need some time to make it on syojetion" i dont know what is this syojetion
nice try
Solution.
Ez Gat.
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y-I gyot a wei. Y nyeed som tym to myake yit yon syojetion!
"I got a wei. i need some time to make it on syojetion" i dont know what is this syojetion
nice try
Solution.
no dummy. seduction
jk