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General => Suggestions => Closed => Topic started by: Captain on March 22, 2018, 05:30:24 am

Title: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Captain on March 22, 2018, 05:30:24 am
A player can create a group chat/message - player x invites player y and player z to join his group chat/message and player y and player z accepts it - player x choose a name for the group chat/message (to avoid confusing in chat/message)
If your friends are in different teams and you want to talk to them instead of /pm % them one-by-one
NOTE: It should be a PM but in group.
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Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Darwin on March 22, 2018, 06:29:12 am
Neutral
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: GlennN on March 22, 2018, 06:34:36 am
I've seen this feature in other servers where the player count is high. I don't think it will be of benefit to a server with a lower player count. Group chat with players from opposite teams won't be nice, as one might leak their own team chat into that group chat for other teams to see.

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Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Deadman on March 22, 2018, 06:44:13 am
I've seen this feature in other servers where the player count is high. I don't think it will be of benefit to a server with a lower player count. Group chat with players from opposite teams won't be nice, as one might leak their own team chat into that group chat for other teams to see.

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NO
This feature was in CnR (which I played) for group robberies. Its neither required here in this gameplay format nor it will fit the scnerios for which you will use this feature.
-1
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on March 22, 2018, 10:04:01 am
-1, obvious reasons:

1.) Player Transparency
2.)Gamemode duty and teamwork



 
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Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Faro0s on March 22, 2018, 11:00:24 am
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YES

This suggestion is really good instead of PMing everyone one by one, consumes less time.

I've seen this feature in other servers where the player count is high. I don't think it will be of benefit to a server with a lower player count. Group chat with players from opposite teams won't be nice, as one might leak their own team chat into that group chat for other teams to see.

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NO

This feature is not dependent on players count, even with 10 players can be done, it's about the player who wants a GroupPM or not. Also if it's about leaking the team chat, it can also be done through PMs which many people abuse it, so it's not a convincing reason.

I've seen this feature in other servers where the player count is high. I don't think it will be of benefit to a server with a lower player count. Group chat with players from opposite teams won't be nice, as one might leak their own team chat into that group chat for other teams to see.

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NO
This feature was in CnR (which I played) for group robberies. Its neither required here in this gameplay format nor it will fit the scnerios for which you will use this feature.
-1

What do you mean ? It fits lol.

-1, obvious reasons:

1.) Player Transparency
2.)Gamemode duty and teamwork



 
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Gamemode won't be affected by this, it's just a feature where a couple of players can have a PRIVATE GROUP CHAT.
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Brian_Walker on March 22, 2018, 11:10:45 am
+1
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Maddy on March 22, 2018, 03:40:33 pm
I've seen this feature in other servers where the player count is high. I don't think it will be of benefit to a server with a lower player count. Group chat with players from opposite teams won't be nice, as one might leak their own team chat into that group chat for other teams to see.

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NO
This is what I thought
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: FlapJack[M.I.B] on March 23, 2018, 02:56:16 pm
I've seen this feature in other servers where the player count is high. I don't think it will be of benefit to a server with a lower player count. Group chat with players from opposite teams won't be nice, as one might leak their own team chat into that group chat for other teams to see.
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NO

That's what I thought.
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Madman on March 23, 2018, 09:22:07 pm
No -1
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Ahsoka_Tano on March 23, 2018, 09:58:08 pm
Gamemode won't be affected by this,
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Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: SaiFi on March 24, 2018, 09:26:08 am
No
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Faro0s on March 24, 2018, 09:53:39 am
Gamemode won't be affected by this,
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Please tell me how the game mode would be affected if this is implemented.
If you think people will leak messages then here’s the answer
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YES

This suggestion is really good instead of PMing everyone one by one, consumes less time.

I've seen this feature in other servers where the player count is high. I don't think it will be of benefit to a server with a lower player count. Group chat with players from opposite teams won't be nice, as one might leak their own team chat into that group chat for other teams to see.

Quote this when you vote xD
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NO

This feature is not dependent on players count, even with 10 players can be done, it's about the player who wants a GroupPM or not. Also if it's about leaking the team chat, it can also be done through PMs which many people abuse it, so it's not a convincing reason.

I've seen this feature in other servers where the player count is high. I don't think it will be of benefit to a server with a lower player count. Group chat with players from opposite teams won't be nice, as one might leak their own team chat into that group chat for other teams to see.

Quote this when you vote xD
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NO
This feature was in CnR (which I played) for group robberies. Its neither required here in this gameplay format nor it will fit the scnerios for which you will use this feature.
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What do you mean ? It fits lol.

-1, obvious reasons:

1.) Player Transparency
2.)Gamemode duty and teamwork



 
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NO

Gamemode won't be affected by this, it's just a feature where a couple of players can have a PRIVATE GROUP CHAT.
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Vishwas on March 24, 2018, 11:45:28 am
What's the difference between this and clan chat.. -1
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: GlennN on March 24, 2018, 02:21:58 pm
What's the difference between this and clan chat..
Which reminds me, these have already been suggested before so I don't know why it keeps coming up again..
https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=1792.0 (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=1792.0)
https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=1792.0 (https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=1792.0)

Quote from: Aksel
If there is a clan chat..RD: lets go civilian chillout and try to kill presi
PPLV: lets protect the president or do some stunts
NO: lets go undercover record to get Mr.X banned
Rawr: check ID X i think he is cheating or something
GgT: fu** b**** i cants kill mr.X alone, lemme go facebook and call china's army!!
       i'm bored lets call rest of ggts and attack a clan to fight with
latins: JAJJAJAJAJAJJAJJAJJA
Mia/altus: i ma report MR A B C D E F
             can u see that blue cloud on main armor? lets take heli and pick armor from otherside
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Faro0s on March 24, 2018, 04:05:57 pm
What's the difference between this and clan chat.. -1

Clan chat is a chat specified for clans only so people send messages to their clan members only.
This suggestion is to create a chat(private) with specific persons chosen by the creator so if they are in didferent teams they can still chat instead of sending pms to everyone lol.

I like the clan chat thing, sounds better than this.
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Hito on March 24, 2018, 05:04:13 pm
Quote from: Aksel
If there is a clan chat..RD: lets go civilian chillout and try to kill presi
PPLV: lets protect the president or do some stunts
NO: lets go undercover record to get Mr.X banned
Rawr: check ID X i think he is cheating or something
GgT: fu** b**** i cants kill mr.X alone, lemme go facebook and call china's army!!
       i'm bored lets call rest of ggts and attack a clan to fight with
latins: JAJJAJAJAJAJJAJJAJJA
Mia/altus: i ma report MR A B C D E F
             can u see that blue cloud on main armor? lets take heli and pick armor from otherside

pWn : pwnt! ez game ez stats all rq kk
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Magic on March 24, 2018, 05:17:45 pm
+1
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on March 24, 2018, 05:19:33 pm
Bah,why are we pretending clans and regulars won't abuse this?
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: George on March 24, 2018, 06:20:53 pm
We all know that admins read the chat, PMs and teamchat (via IRC). I'll say it'll be a spam.
We don't know if a whole clan is cheating, or maybe will cover each other.
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Vishwas on March 24, 2018, 06:38:53 pm
What's the difference between this and clan chat.. -1

Clan chat is a chat specified for clans only so people send messages to their clan members only.
This suggestion is to create a chat(private) with specific persons chosen by the creator so if they are in didferent teams they can still chat instead of sending pms to everyone lol.

I like the clan chat thing, sounds better than this.
Bah,why are we pretending clans and regulars won't abuse this?
Exactly.
Stop feeding us with group chat when you'll eventually use it for your so called wars and clan bs.
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Faro0s on March 24, 2018, 08:53:28 pm
Bah,why are we pretending clans and regulars won't abuse this?

On what basis can you tell me that this feature will be abused ?
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Magic on March 25, 2018, 09:16:33 am
Bah,why are we pretending clans and regulars won't abuse this?
If it will abuse dont we have PM abuse sometimes?
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Vishwas on March 25, 2018, 09:28:10 am
Bah,why are we pretending clans and regulars won't abuse this?

On what basis can you tell me that this feature will be abused ?
This suggestion is similar to what clan chat is. Why is it so hard for you to understand. You can use this to create a clan chat, and clan chat is a big No.

Funny thing is, most people supporting it are bunch of war freaks. All they want is more suggestions to support their cause.


You can read a suggestion similar to this and response, mind how it's in "closed" section  :'(
https://planbserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=1792.msg15814#msg15814
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Luka on March 25, 2018, 10:00:19 am
+1
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on March 25, 2018, 11:01:30 am
Bah,why are we pretending clans and regulars won't abuse this?
If it will abuse dont we have PM abuse sometimes?

PM abuse is limited to two people and at best a third party convo between multiple PMs, both of which are tedious to do as compared to this.

Bah,why are we pretending clans and regulars won't abuse this?

On what basis can you tell me that this feature will be abused ?

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Clan chat is a chat specified for clans only so people send messages to their clan members only.
This suggestion is to create a chat(private) with specific persons chosen by the creator so if they are in didferent teams they can still chat instead of sending pms to everyone lol.

I like the clan chat thing, sounds better than this.

Obviously whether you are trying to hide it or not it will end up in a clan chat.

1. Most regulars don't care about Newbies.
2. Clan conformity will limit the chat to only those people either in alliance with,with or without clan tag.

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Even less newbie interaction and new playerbase feeling alienated. Which is bad for the server, idk why people pop up with "This helps keep the server alive!" yet fail to grasp a fundamental to keeping the server 'alive'



3. Clan Wars - The most stupid and overblown occurrence, which leads to even more stupid reaction by people.

It's pointless to hide the fact that people WILL asslick during Wars to get that tag and protection in gamemode.

Adding this feature will add a obvious incentive to ignore the /color and /duty.

While I still consider most clan arguments to be primitively dumb, they still find out convenient ways to bend things to their favour.

Eg: X is a poor ol regular who hates getting killed over and over, he leans towards the [A] clan which has skilled combatants but are also having a war with [D] and tries to fit his gameplay to A's favour so he may get closer to [A]'s approval.

X then proceeds to help the A clan by giving them info from the opposite team, either through the GC or PM'ing one which conveys message through the GC.

Eventually D decides to converse only through GC and in a span of time, most of the gamemode goes to shit,with everyone having their own GC and new playerbase eventually having less interaction, they either get into a GC or get left behind.

With the police and terro duty already being exploited, I don't see this far from possibility and unlikely to happen.

As if the current things aren't bad as it is, this will ruin things further.


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Altough clans have been a part of this server or even the entire game, this server is based on teams, not clans. The teamchat we have is enough, after all it's even better if you work well organized with other players in your class and not just your clanmates.



Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Finisher on March 25, 2018, 06:49:46 pm
Long story short, ain’t happening

Thank you for the suggestion
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Captain on March 26, 2018, 12:42:44 am
Limiting the players inside a gc into 3 players and if you are in a gc you can't join another gc?
X then proceeds to help the A clan by giving them info from the opposite team, either through the GC or PM'ing one which conveys message through the GC.
Even without a GC the info can be spread through main chat


I don't intend this suggestion to be part of clan thing. It is only a faster way of Private Messaging if you want to say/ask the same thing on different persons instead of messaging them one-by-one
Long story short, ain’t happening

Thank you for the suggestion
This topic should be closed now or what?
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on March 27, 2018, 03:19:59 pm
Limiting the players inside a gc into 3 players and if you are in a gc you can't join another gc?
X then proceeds to help the A clan by giving them info from the opposite team, either through the GC or PM'ing one which conveys message through the GC.
Even without a GC the info can be spread through main chat




That in itself is a rulebreak, this can be used as a turnaround for the said rule. Admins/Mods won't be spying every chat nor I think that would even be a feature.

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I don't intend this suggestion to be part of clan thing. It is only a faster way of Private Messaging if you want to say/ask the same thing on different persons instead of messaging them one-by-one

Agree with the problem and I also want a solution to it, this can work but it needs proper limitations.
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Faro0s on March 27, 2018, 11:54:24 pm
Essays again..

I know this server is team based server not clan based but we have clan boards, righr ? So we should give some importance to it as well, clan plays an important role in many servers. So you still didn’t give me an appropriate reason for not allowing this. I mean open yoyr eyes, it’s not end of the world or something like that, this just gives an opportunity for a clan to have it’s own private chat, many servers do(which are teambased) and they are successful. Why don’t you give it a try ? As I mentioned above, it has nothing to do with the game mode. It will not bring any difference neither in the GM nor to any other players, it’s just a chance for people who are in clans to chat with each even being in opposite teams. And guys please stop with essays, you won’t be mods for that. Just kidding lol. But seriously try to summarize your essays.
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on March 28, 2018, 12:23:26 pm
-Short Reply will prolly extend later(idk have exams maybe one week or one day later) - (maybe consider this as the summary? :v )

1.) I don't think you read my paragraph or straight up ignored it.

2.)No screw your clan relevance, there is already Clan Board to give clans attention and regulars get away with the Terro/Cop duty fuck ups.

3.)Show me another server like PlanB, most SAMP Servers are also recycled or just another party server with no specific focus, and they die due to 'playerbase' which dwindles eventually.

This server isn't TDM, it's a "TDM Type", SAMP server shows me "Protect The President" as GM not TDM with clanbois.

4.) Implementing this will contribute towards the losing of playerbase as I mentioned earlier.

5.)No I think clans will abuse it during wars which was also mentioned in my earlier argument.

6.)You only concern with Clans and not the playerbase in your argument.

7.) This is a Forum,and a Discussion based board, and my argument was literally 315 words cut up with points and spacing to make it easier to look at point by point. You lack the patience.

Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Son_Gun on March 28, 2018, 12:44:21 pm
Woah expert. Behold the great Lohit_The_EssayWriter.  ;D
lOl.
btw I agree with all your points.
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Ahsoka_Tano on March 28, 2018, 03:40:57 pm
-Short Reply will prolly extend later(idk have exams maybe one week or one day later) - (maybe consider this as the summary? :v )

1.) I don't think you read my paragraph or straight up ignored it.

2.)No screw your clan relevance, there is already Clan Board to give clans attention and regulars get away with the Terro/Cop duty fuck ups.

3.)Show me another server like PlanB, most SAMP Servers are also recycled or just another party server with no specific focus, and they die due to 'playerbase' which dwindles eventually.

This server isn't TDM, it's a "TDM Type", SAMP server shows me "Protect The President" as GM not TDM with clanbois.

4.) Implementing this will contribute towards the losing of playerbase as I mentioned earlier.

5.)No I think clans will abuse it during wars which was also mentioned in my earlier argument.

6.)You only concern with Clans and not the playerbase in your argument.

7.) This is a Forum,and a Discussion based board, and my argument was literally 315 words cut up with points and spacing to make it easier to look at point by point. You lack the patience.


(http://www.img.tpx.cz/uploads/1s9bfg.jpg)
Lohit loaded his fukin gun and is ready to kill the one that made this dumb topic.
I played on more than 10 servers and only 2 of them had clan. so thats 2/10. 1 is still active and the other one died.
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Deadman on March 28, 2018, 08:52:25 pm
Quote from: Aksel
If there is a clan chat..RD: lets go civilian chillout and try to kill presi
PPLV: lets protect the president or do some stunts
NO: lets go undercover record to get Mr.X banned
Rawr: check ID X i think he is cheating or something
GgT: fu** b**** i cants kill mr.X alone, lemme go facebook and call china's army!!
       i'm bored lets call rest of ggts and attack a clan to fight with
latins: JAJJAJAJAJAJJAJJAJJA
Mia/altus: i ma report MR A B C D E F
             can u see that blue cloud on main armor? lets take heli and pick armor from otherside
Now this is some serious shit example (thanks to GlennN). This is the reason it doest fit in the scenario @Faro0s.
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Faro0s on March 28, 2018, 10:24:32 pm
Quote from: Aksel
If there is a clan chat..RD: lets go civilian chillout and try to kill presi
PPLV: lets protect the president or do some stunts
NO: lets go undercover record to get Mr.X banned
Rawr: check ID X i think he is cheating or something
GgT: fu** b**** i cants kill mr.X alone, lemme go facebook and call china's army!!
       i'm bored lets call rest of ggts and attack a clan to fight with
latins: JAJJAJAJAJAJJAJJAJJA
Mia/altus: i ma report MR A B C D E F
             can u see that blue cloud on main armor? lets take heli and pick armor from otherside
Now this is some serious shit example (thanks to GlennN). This is the reason it doest fit in the scenario @Faro0s.

They do this without the chat as well. This chat will help in better communication for clan members.
I am tired of this, you guys don’t understand, good luck doing whatever you want.
Title: Re: PGC/M - Player Group Chat/Message
Post by: Jonne on December 05, 2018, 06:11:14 pm
This won't be added.