Plan B

General => Suggestions => Closed => Topic started by: Ahsoka_Tano on March 23, 2018, 12:12:33 pm

Title: Clans
Post by: Ahsoka_Tano on March 23, 2018, 12:12:33 pm
I was thinking of this suggestion for weeks and i think i should make this. So its basically to remove the Clans from the forums and ptppb. Ive talked and i got no and i got that friends wont kill each other, but its harder to know when they dont have a tag. So remove clans?
Adding a rule wont help so this will maybe?

Im expecting 2000 word essays with votes nope so keep that for yourself.
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Spectre on March 23, 2018, 12:17:28 pm
Lol...

Clans exist for a reason, not just in PTP but in pretty much every other team-based multiplayer game. I'm sorry, but this is one of the dumbest suggestions I've ever seen.

So, -1 from me.
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Crash on March 23, 2018, 02:30:55 pm
Perhaps telling why you are suggesting this?
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Rage on March 23, 2018, 02:37:21 pm
Why you care of clans? You can just play your game or make some news noviny San-Andreas :D

-1
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: FlapJack[M.I.B] on March 23, 2018, 02:47:09 pm
This won't be necessary,
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Chetan on March 23, 2018, 05:14:11 pm
Lol...

Clans exist for a reason, not just in PTP but in pretty much every other team-based multiplayer game. I'm sorry, but this is one of the dumbest suggestions I've ever seen.

So, -1 from me.
Same
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Finisher on March 23, 2018, 05:30:52 pm
Agreed
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on March 23, 2018, 05:34:58 pm
Make /duty and /rules more direct, with emphasis on color teams and enforce it more.

Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Miau on March 23, 2018, 06:05:47 pm
I don't think clans should be removed, we aren't going to ban anyone with a [ ] in their nick, unless you want the community to burst.

A feasible alternative is to give up "official" support for clans. This means: removing the clan board, stop kicking unaffiliated players for using a clan tag, etc.

I think this should be done. Clans are contributing to distort the "team play" philosophy of this game, as their alliances usually override what their teams is supposed to do. So, at least, they shouldn't receive any kind of support by the management... Unfortunately the management doesn't consider this a priority, although it's forcing new players to quit every hour of every day, so don't expect nothing like this to happen :p

Clans exist for a reason

Yeah, so you can get all together and hunt newbies, right?
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Ahsoka_Tano on March 23, 2018, 06:07:52 pm
Perhaps telling why you are suggesting this?

Hm... Clans in a server where you protect somebody or kill him? I dont even know why are clans supported on the forums. Clans are destroying the rules lol. Not even gonna mention Staring police officers or cop+terro shooting civi together and then going to armour together in 1 car. ( somebody knows what im talking about)

If somebody that voted no has a better idea howto improve duty, rules, balance the game, or improve the classes then i would like to see theyr answers.
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Spectre on March 23, 2018, 06:36:17 pm
Clans exist for a reason

Yeah, so you can get all together and hunt newbies, right?

Precisely.
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Magic on March 23, 2018, 07:43:37 pm
Clans Clans Clans, Clans everywhere. You know what, i've seen clans with it members in other multiplayer games killing each other even in opposite team they even say nothing and they dont do clan wars they enjoy killing each other in opposite teams . it will be a better idea if this happend here clean and fair game but perhaps...some of peoples dont like this.
A best thing to say fakin armor kampers and klan wars.
My vote is Neutral
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Menace on March 23, 2018, 08:34:51 pm
I was going to post something similar to this later down in the year

Totally agree
+1
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: SaiFi on March 23, 2018, 08:51:09 pm
Lol...

Clans exist for a reason, not just in PTP but in pretty much every other team-based multiplayer game. I'm sorry, but this is one of the dumbest suggestions I've ever seen.

So, -1 from me.
Same
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Haunter on March 23, 2018, 09:05:18 pm
Not that I appreciate what the clans here mostly do , however a huge majority of the server has got a clan to be with meaning they won't like it and potentially might ruin "their perspective of gameplay". Likewise if the style you played got removed would you enjoy it here? Not really picking any sides however we all know the outcome.
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Madman on March 23, 2018, 09:22:44 pm
Nope -1
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Darwin on March 23, 2018, 09:51:59 pm
Make /duty and /rules more direct, with emphasis on color teams and enforce it more.
Exactly
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Son_Gun on March 24, 2018, 03:48:42 am
Perhaps telling why you are suggesting this?

Not even gonna mention Staring police officers or cop+terro shooting civi together and then going to armour together in 1 car. ( somebody knows what im talking about)


Perhaps I've seen many players doing this without being in same clan and still doing it together. 

-1.
Instead every clan should update their rules that members are allowed to shoot clan mate if in opposite class and should follow duty first.
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Bannn. on March 24, 2018, 04:03:14 am
Nope -1
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Satvik on March 24, 2018, 04:46:57 am
Perhaps telling why you are suggesting this?

Clans are destroying the rules lol. Not even gonna mention Staring police officers or cop+terro shooting civi together and then going to armour together in 1 car. ( somebody knows what im talking about)



You know what you just said is not allowed? Did you report? Did you try to approach an admin regarding this? Hope they'll be punished
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Saurabh on March 24, 2018, 06:38:26 am
 Mia it's not just clan that 'distort the team DM gamemode'. Many classes individuals also make alliances or do selective killing.

I agree that swiping clans might be a big step to restore the PTP gamemode BUT it would definitely defeat the purpose of playing this old multiplayer game at first place(for many of us), that is to communicate and have fun. Not saying that a clanless person won't have anyone to talk to or won't enjoy much but being in a clan is fun and a LOT more than just "hunting newbies together".

-1. You can try giving up supporting clans officially, but in the end the clan will still hold and the problem of "alliance" u were trying to solve will stay as it is. Not allowing the clan tags completely, on the other hand, might solve this to an extent but players will feel hollow and definitely move to a better game or something (unless you are a no lifer with no better things to do than forcefully playing a game that u find boring) with the clan members.
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Ege on March 24, 2018, 12:39:19 pm
Just when I think suggestions can't get any worse I'm getting surprised everyday...
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Zeta on March 24, 2018, 01:48:50 pm
Are u ok?
Nope -1
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: SoLoD on March 24, 2018, 03:39:32 pm
It is not about clans or rules, it is all about admins can`t do their duty as admins.

If you will remove clantags - they will not shoot each other anyway. Next time you will suggest to remove nicknames from game and to make 1 skin for each team, so there will not be another option but to play GM. And in out case that will be a decent solution btw.
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Faro0s on March 24, 2018, 04:02:17 pm
I agree with spectre in every single word.
Even if the clan tag is removed nothing affects the general playing of people, they can still team up with each and continue their routine as they did when having the tag. Basically it doesn’t change anything.
Dumbest suggestion ever.
-1
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Arabiane on March 24, 2018, 04:07:19 pm
players now arn't playing like they used to do in the past because of those kind of topics,you made people hate the game mode with your new suggestions about clans , let them play,i see nowadays like 20 player in game when its full with 5 admins who just waiting for some one to ban in spawn and 10 players playing the actual game mode.
actually you should encourage clans .
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Crash on March 25, 2018, 10:11:25 am
Just when I think suggestions can't get any worse I'm getting surprised everyday...
Same shit here
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: MnMs on March 26, 2018, 06:45:19 am
Like removing clans is gonan change anything?

-1
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: LPCOLTER on March 26, 2018, 10:00:12 am
Removing the spree system was effective in a way,
But there is still some flaw in the system.
Removing Support for Clans will promote people to play gm, stop kicking members for fake tags or banning them.
-Let the Clan Board stay and The replies should be enabled
-Remove Support for Kicking fakes from using tags
-Clans should be replaced by club(if it's possible)
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: lax on March 26, 2018, 12:00:06 pm
Clans Clans Clans, Clans everywhere. You know what, i've seen clans with it members in other multiplayer games killing each other even in opposite team they even say nothing and they dont do clan wars they enjoy killing each other in opposite teams . it will be a better idea if this happend here clean and fair game but perhaps...some of peoples dont like this.
A best thing to say fakin armor kampers and klan wars.
My vote is Neutral

The clan in which you have applied have a policy of not shooting clanmates. :)

On-Topic: I don't think that it's a good idea to have this suggestion implemented. As many people said about /duty, I think that it would be good, maybe that can stop and resolve this thing in a more better way.
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Saurabh on March 26, 2018, 06:11:15 pm
Where is the " Do whatever the fuck you want, it's a game!" Option?
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Luka on March 26, 2018, 06:14:00 pm
-1
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Rage on March 26, 2018, 08:18:35 pm
Where is the " Do whatever the fuck you want, it's a game!" Option?
I forget this word
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Blitz on March 27, 2018, 03:14:32 am
man,tags are useless.People will ever make clans if they are friends.Simple
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Luka on March 27, 2018, 04:06:45 am
why us gusys well delete clan's topic if since 2007 clans are here so no lol.
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: LPCOLTER on March 28, 2018, 05:26:04 pm
why us gusys well delete clan's topic if since 2007 clans are here so no lol.
Don't delete them, add replies to it
And remove support that's what will make this Server's GM more effective
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Maddy on March 28, 2018, 07:17:11 pm
I think it's not really possible lol. If this suggestion will be added, the clans will stay active socially but not on server forum.
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: YoMama on April 01, 2018, 09:59:56 pm
As much as I hate the behavior of most clans, I don't think they should be banned here. I think wearing a tag that shows you're part of a skilled group without anyone needing to know who you are is cool. I also like how certain clans had a focus which meant you could trust a member to know some skill- it's less like this now, but PPLV was like this for stunting and flying. I don't have problems with people having friend groups, which will happen with or without clans.

I do, however, think they should actually be required to follow the rules, instead of their own bullshit. I'm still seeing clanmates on opposite teams driving each other around. To those people, grow up and play the game, instead of focusing on "dominating" with your primitive tribe. If your clan is as good as most clans claim to be, then it should be at least as much fun to play against them as with them.
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Cyrus_ on June 13, 2018, 07:47:49 pm
+
Title: Re: Clans
Post by: Jonne on December 05, 2018, 08:03:15 pm
We won't be removing the clans. We've been having this discussion for a long time. Even in the old server, where it sometimes came up that new admins would have to be clanless. I think rules like that are pointless and won't make any difference. With or without a tag, it will still be the same person, with the same friends.