Plan B
General => Suggestions => Closed => Topic started by: Tuco on December 05, 2016, 08:29:02 pm
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Hi.
In another topic we are talking about civilian-vips being so powerful with a sniper and a jetpack. Well, I think that another good way to equilibrate the game would be to DELETE or DISABLE combat shotguns while on the bike passenger seat.
Also, this suggestion would allow cops to be able to kill terrorists while on a bike, now they are in clear disadvantage.
Moreover, the president could survive longer as the terrorist would have to do more than just run with their bikes behind him and shoot until he dies (in a matter of seconds).
Thanks for taking into consideration this suggestion.
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+1 8)
Thug life tuco .
Iven 8 secs cant handle 2 terrors in a bike with combat shootgun. Make it fair for the president.
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Sorry but I completely disagree with this suggestion on the basis of following reasons,
• securities got Sawns
• cops/secs have M4 which on crouching gives a huge advantage in terms of accuracy.
• ability to aim at high range.
• number of secs and cops will mostly be more than that of terrorists.
So as far as i see, cops/secs are more powerful than terrorists. -1.
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I already suggested this in the old PTP, but it was really controversial.
+1 anyways.
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To be honest, i feel annoying when i get attacked by a guy who has combat shotgun as passenger but it is part of the gamemode, there is a good solution for this but it will happen only when we play the gamemode. So, if a car consist of 3 passengers and a driver will be obviously very dangerous but on the other hand if the cops shoot them from a far distance they can be taken down easily. This process can happen when we play the gm properly. But no one can force anyone for that so.. yeah i give -1 to this suggestion.
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Nah
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I see what you did there Tuco, at least I hope... Otherwise I don't want to believe that this is suggested for real lol
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-1.
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rofl
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Sorry, what?
Nope (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zILpjFqlOak)
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Did Mia / Altus convince you to make this topic?
Huge -1, wtf? Might as well take sawns from security as well. I agree with you on the cops vs terrorist thing but once a bike's tire is popped, it's basically useless. And the terrorists NEED a bit of extra oomph if they're gonna stand a chance against 5 securities shooting at the bike from one car + all those cops trying to hunt them down + the sniper jetpacking nading civilians. I really hope this is a troll topic lol
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I like the combat shotgun, though it is overpowered at close range, its weakness at long range makes it somewhat fair. If you're going to talk about people on bikes being too powerful, what you really need to talk about are the people who ride on things with snipers and rifles. Anyone can usually take some combat damage, but losing tires from ridiculous distances gets impossible to deal with, given enough VIP terrorists.
...the terrorists NEED a bit of extra oomph if they're gonna stand a chance against 5 securities shooting at the bike from one car + all those cops trying to hunt them down + the sniper jetpacking nading civilians.
I think if anything needs to be changed, the President needs to be able to drive things that allow him to avoid the combat shotgun DBers. In LS, for example, there are basically no cars in the vicinity of the President spawn that are fast enough to stay away from the combat shotguns. The good and fast cars aren't spread out; instead they're all in the terrorist spawn and the civilian spawn. Practically all the maps have this problem, except for FC, SF and LV. Flying presidents can also avoid the combat DBers without making things unfair... *cough*
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i have a good solution guys, make combat shotgun for vips only.
+1 please
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Huge -1, wtf? Might as well take sawns from security as well. I agree with you on the cops vs terrorist thing but once a bike's tire is popped, it's basically useless. And the terrorists NEED a bit of extra oomph if they're gonna stand a chance against 5 securities shooting at the bike from one car + all those cops trying to hunt them down + the sniper jetpacking nading civilians. I really hope this is a troll topic lol
exactly what i meant to write.
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Tuco sry no -1
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Nuuu pls -1. ;D
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Tuco sry no -1
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rofl
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In my oppinion that problem is much more complicated. It is not just about cobat shotgun while driving a bike. All classes should be equipped in the same weapon set so it would be more equal. Furthermore, disproportion is also made by different skins which are being used by VIPs and non-VIPs, so the best way to make it right is to remove the possibility of skin changing for player who have donated and allow to use only one skin for everyone. I think that we can also make some changes with cars - some of them are faster than the others - so I propose spawning only one type of car. Of course /nos, /wheel and /cc commands should also be dissabled for VIPs or enabled for everyone. Implementing that sugestion would guarantee everyone to have the same chances while playing.
Equality first.
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-1
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i have a good solution guys, make combat shotgun for vips only.
+1 please
Lol
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rofl
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Teams are balanced with current weapons and we used to play like this for 10 years in PTP. It's okey as now, no need to be changed. -1
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Teams are balanced with current weapons and we used to play like this for 10 years in PTP. It's okey as now, no need to be changed. -1
Technically the combat shotgun as a passenger has been around for 2 years after the 0.3 update which i would say changed things a bit.
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Technically the combat shotgun as a passenger has been around for 2 years after the 0.3 update which i would say changed things a bit.
Yeah that's right but still the point is same; we used to play 2 years with combat shotgun as a passenger.
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Ofc no -1
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this is really a bad idea.a combat shotgun is okay. deagle is too OP so see the differnce and instead why not put replace ak47 with m4 so its fair
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-1 bad suggestion
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Technically the combat shotgun as a passenger has been around for 2 years after the 0.3 update which i would say changed things a bit.
Yeah that's right but still the point is same; we used to play 2 years with combat shotgun as a passenger.
I think it was lagcomp that really made it into a problem, along with sniper rifles.
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I remember that my PTP forum activity started from the similar topic. That time I was quite sure that everything is allright. Since then I talked with some people about combat shotgun driveby, and I am not that sure anymore...
I can understand the concerns. But, as for me, if we take into account all of the teams options, the gameplay would be more or less even for each team. Skittles is right: we can guarantee that the gameplay is fair only by granting absolutely equal opportunities to absolutely everyone. But we can also balance the game by making sure that each option and strategy has both pros and contras, strong and weak spots. If two terrorists abusing combat shotgun driveby meet at least two cops onfoot, the cops would have a lot of options to counter and fight this combo.
Besides, if it gets disabled, the terrorist class would be too weak. AK47 is way worse than M4, same goes for TEC9 and Uzi. And if you take into consideration that our regulars love to form strong and numerous cop armies... The balance must be changed cardinally then. I don't think we need this because the current one is more or less fair, so -1.
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Technically the combat shotgun as a passenger has been around for 2 years after the 0.3 update which i would say changed things a bit.
Yeah that's right but still the point is same; we used to play 2 years with combat shotgun as a passenger.
I think it was lagcomp that really made it into a problem, along with sniper rifles.
Exactly. Lagcomp has made all weapons overpowered (or just stonger compared to lagshoot, however you call it) because you certainly know where to aim at. Of course combat shotgun drive-by is the one affected the most as you can shoot powerful bullets so quickly with a high accuracy.
At first I thought this is just a parody topic to certain people's suggestions especially about the jetpacks but turned to be a serious one and i find it ridiculous.
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This won't be added.