Plan B

General => Suggestions => Closed => Topic started by: Yash on August 04, 2016, 09:05:04 am

Title: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Yash on August 04, 2016, 09:05:04 am
I think President and security should be provided with rocket launcher in NSA as it becomes really difficult to fight with hydras and there are only a lImited no. of hydras so everbody cant use them!
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  Regards...
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Jonne on August 04, 2016, 10:22:25 pm
I like the idea, if we give the secus and pres an RPG with 1 or 2 rockets, it could be at least some defense against the hydras. I want to hear other people's opinions on it though before I add anything.
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: YoMama on August 07, 2016, 04:23:41 am
They aren't going to use the rockets against Hydras, nor would they be effective against them. Instead, they'll be overpowered weapons against ground-based Terrorists. The best defense against a Hydra is a Rustler.
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Yash on August 07, 2016, 08:52:21 am
They aren't going to use the rockets against Hydras, nor would they be effective against them. Instead, they'll be overpowered weapons against ground-based Terrorists. The best defense against a Hydra is a Rustler.
No but when president is camping at area and hydras cover the entrance reinforcements are unable to get inside! so in such situations we can use rocket launcher to destroy that enemy hydra!
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: YoMama on August 07, 2016, 10:41:57 am
They aren't going to use the rockets against Hydras, nor would they be effective against them. Instead, they'll be overpowered weapons against ground-based Terrorists. The best defense against a Hydra is a Rustler.
No but when president is camping at area and hydras cover the entrance reinforcements are unable to get inside! so in such situations we can use rocket launcher to destroy that enemy hydra!
If I were flying against you in that context, I would just keep moving instead of hovering- you'd never be able to hit me, and I'd probably still kill you, especially because you'd be standing in one spot trying to hit me with a rocket launcher. Then you and the rest of the security would end up hiding inside with rocket launchers, which no one else would have, with terrorists walking in with just TEC-9s. See the problem here?
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: pRiMoZ on August 07, 2016, 02:11:02 pm
RPG is not that effective against hydras...(except the heat seeking one)
m4 is your best friend... :D
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Yash on August 07, 2016, 03:18:22 pm
They aren't going to use the rockets against Hydras, nor would they be effective against them. Instead, they'll be overpowered weapons against ground-based Terrorists. The best defense against a Hydra is a Rustler.
No but when president is camping at area and hydras cover the entrance reinforcements are unable to get inside! so in such situations we can use rocket launcher to destroy that enemy hydra!
If I were flying against you in that context, I would just keep moving instead of hovering- you'd never be able to hit me, and I'd probably still kill you, especially because you'd be standing in one spot trying to hit me with a rocket launcher. Then you and the rest of the security would end up hiding inside with rocket launchers, which no one else would have, with terrorists walking in with just TEC-9s. See the problem here?
MAKES SENSE !
RPG is not that effective against hydras...(except the heat seeking one)
m4 is your best friend... :D
I want to change my suggestion to that heat seeking rocket :P
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: YoMama on August 07, 2016, 09:39:12 pm
RPG is not that effective against hydras...(except the heat seeking one)
m4 is your best friend... :D
I want to change my suggestion to that heat seeking rocket :P
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The heat seeking rockets are easy to avoid if you're in a plane... they'll still end up being used against people that aren't in Hydras.
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Yash on August 07, 2016, 09:47:23 pm
Quote from: YoMama link=topic=71.msg293#msg293 date=14705different52
RPG is not that effective against hydras...(except the heat seeking one)
m4 is your best friend... :D
I want to change my suggestion to that heat seeking rocket :P

The heat seeking rockets are easy to avoid if you're in a plane... they'll still end up being used against people that aren't in Hydras.
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Yea but we can give a try If the terrorists have something different like hydra in NSA secs should also be provided with some defence!
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Tricky on August 08, 2016, 12:27:34 am
Maybe securities should be able to enter hunters to fight against the hydra's or you can exclude the hydra's all together and only allow the somewhat slower sea-sparrows (no explosions) and/or tanks (which can't fly)? Also what YoMama said, securities can also use the rocket launchers against terrors on ground, but I don't see a problem here because hydra's can also be used for both air assaults and ground attacks. It's your own decision how you use your weapon. In short, the idea of security able to acquire a rocketlauncher doesn't sound that bad to me. However, I think that 1 or 2 rockets are not enough to stop a hydra especially when they (hydra's) are able to avoid them very easily when flying full speed. They are only effective on stationary hydra's.
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: pRiMoZ on August 08, 2016, 12:33:03 am
instead of all these abusable things we can just reduce hydra's hps to like 700 ?
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Yash on August 08, 2016, 08:17:04 am
instead of all these abusable things we can just reduce hydra's hps to like 700 ?

Primoz u drive hydra way too fast so for secs 700 HP and 1000 HP is same of your Hydra !
Plus yes hydra is used for killing both ground and air targets so rocket or heat seeking launcher can also be used for both the trgts!
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Niks on August 08, 2016, 12:17:37 pm
I have better idea for that NSA hydra...
The hydra should be available after 3 min of map starts so that president with his security got enough time to hide some place because usually president not able to get safe after leaving spwn due to hydra and 3 min are more then enough to make decision where to camp and by this suggestion there is no much more conflicts rises of rocket launcher....

Regards:
Niks[GgT]
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Ricky on August 08, 2016, 12:28:11 pm
I have better idea for that NSA hydra...
The hydra should be available after 3 min of map starts so that president with his security got enough time to hide some place because usually president not able to get safe after leaving spwn due to hydra and 3 min are more then enough to make decision where to camp and by this suggestion there is no much more conflicts rises of rocket launcher....

Regards:
Niks[GgT]

So you're saying add a system where the President has more than enough time to get to somewhere where a hydra can not [easily] reach him/her thereby making the purpose of a hydra defunct (in the case of terrorists). You have more than enough time to decide what you want to do before a terrorist can even get hold of a hydra and reach you.
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Great_Khali on August 08, 2016, 02:33:49 pm
rocket launcher is not useful against hydras , same is heat seeking rpg ,
guys will use it on ground im sure,

also there is a bug where you can shoot infinite rockets with just 1 ammo.
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Yash on August 08, 2016, 04:43:30 pm
Why cant we just give it a try in game and see the results.... If we dont like the outcome we can remove it ! 
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Vishwas on August 08, 2016, 04:48:04 pm
I was about to suggest that we should put vehicles like rhino,hunter in NSA so its like ground vs land type of war in that map.
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: YoMama on August 09, 2016, 10:01:22 am
I feel like this problem has already resolved itself in a way- I've seen a lot of Presidents just go to the aircraft carrier in SF now, and they make it there before the Hydras.
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Altus_Demens on August 11, 2016, 04:05:32 pm
Like others stated, rocket launcher would be heavily abused against players on the ground. So, -1. Probably number of securities could be raised for NSA, and some rustlers placed near president spawn to form air defence.
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Maddy on August 16, 2016, 02:02:43 am
We can also set a time limit like 'You have to wait for (whatever minutes) to get RPG. And I'm sure players will use rpg's on ground so my my suggestion is to increase every vehicles health from 1000.0 to 1500. Or 2000.0 so that it will really help president to survive for a little bit more time and maybe he can be saved too.
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Onii on August 16, 2016, 02:30:35 am
what about stingers? only auto aiming
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Yash on August 16, 2016, 07:00:06 am
Maybe we can activate those rocket launchers on that ship and area so that when presi is camping  hydras cannot block the way of reinforcements...
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Altus_Demens on August 17, 2016, 01:50:43 pm
No-no-no, it doesn't work this way. ;D
RPG holders would be absolutely unbeatable from the ground, and hydras will still dominate in the air, killing every survivors. NSA is kinda chaotic even now, and you suggest to turn it into complete abyss.
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Alcor on August 17, 2016, 03:20:12 pm
Altus had good idea, except replace the rustlers with one or two hydras at the president's spawn so this way two securities would fly them and counter the other hydras attacks (two would be most ideal i think).

This would be very fair instead of giving rocket launchers to securities. NSA was meant to be a hydra map, so let the dog fights begin.
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Spectre on August 17, 2016, 03:38:29 pm
Altus had good idea, except replace the rustlers with one or two hydras at the president's spawn so this way two securities would fly them and counter the other hydras attacks (two would be most ideal i think).

That's not a bad idea, but no one would ever get to fly those two Hydras at Presi's spawn. Everyone would want to pilot them and Securities (newbies) would simply forget about their main task - protecting the President.

Just leave it as it is, no need to add anything more to NSA. Hydras alone are plenty to deal with already.
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: YoMama on August 18, 2016, 09:06:44 am
Altus had good idea, except replace the rustlers with one or two hydras at the president's spawn so this way two securities would fly them and counter the other hydras attacks (two would be most ideal i think).
The best counter to a Hydra is a Rustler. The autoaiming rockets are useless and the manually-aimed ones are nearly impossible to use against air targets. You can actually shoot a Hydra down with M4s. Also, as Spectre said, it would turn into a war for the Hydras.

Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: [RD]MecHaNiC on August 20, 2016, 12:42:25 pm
MANY PROBLEM ONE SOLUTION

" REMOVE THE MAP "
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: COBRA on August 20, 2016, 01:17:04 pm
MANY PROBLEM ONE SOLUTION

" REMOVE THE MAP "
That's a dictator way of solving problems  :-X
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Finisher on August 20, 2016, 03:50:01 pm
Just move the hydras location to somewhere else so attackers don't get the chance to get it while presi is still trying to leave his area. I can reach the hydra in NSA in less than a minute almost. And explode the President while he's barely out the no-fly zone
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: COBRA on August 20, 2016, 11:54:15 pm
Just move the hydras location to somewhere else so attackers don't get the chance to get it while presi is still trying to leave his area. I can reach the hydra in NSA in less than a minute almost. And explode the President while he's barely out the no-fly zone
Actually that was what I suggested already: http://jonne.be/forum/index.php?topic=67.msg235#msg235
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: [RD]MecHaNiC on August 21, 2016, 01:34:35 pm
MANY PROBLEM ONE SOLUTION

" REMOVE THE MAP "
That's a dictator way of solving problems  :-X

xD :D

or provide sec team with some heli's or flying things which can help them to go away to a safe place.
Title: Re: Rocket Launcher in NSA !
Post by: Altus_Demens on August 21, 2016, 08:09:51 pm
or provide sec team with some heli's or flying things which can help them to go away to a safe place.
Yeah, great idea! We can make a challenge for the terrorists then: who will kill the president in the most unsuitable situation? Like, try to kill him blindfolded with your legs controlling your keyboard and mouse. ;D