Plan B
Off Topic => Off Topic => Topic started by: NatzuK on January 13, 2017, 06:40:55 pm
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First of all, Jonne i guess you know but anti-cheat is banning people that doesn't hack by mistake, c-bug warnings when you don't c-bug and i never get a SCREEN warning for 2 shooting BECAUSE i don't 2 shoot i shot all 4 shots and switched to MP5 to finish him so now false warnings? i knew he would hide behind logs because it's olddddddddd ptp no justice ever he can continue abusing he shouldn't have taken the report also but this is "New ptp" nice to see old ptp tactics and a clan hiding behind their clan leader admin
i guess i can difference between c-bug 2 shooting and everything because HELL
- You are the one who is master of bugs. (c-bug, 2shot, another weapon bugs, etc..) You know them very well.
And well since it's useless to report [PPLV] i'll just keep killing them making them mad with my latino team of kids until i get banned for a false c-bug/2shoot/anti-cheat
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First of all, Jonne i guess you know but anti-cheat is banning people that doesn't hack by mistake, c-bug warnings when you don't c-bug and i never get a SCREEN warning for 2 shooting
I know that, that's why we have the current system ignoring the first warning, and only start punishing when you reach a higher warning level. That's also why the most this system will do, in terms of punishment, is a kick. That's also why I said he shouldn't have kicked you, and certainly shouldn't have banned you and to just let the system take care of it, so I don't really get what this topic is about?
I've looked at the logs, and the system did report Natzuk for 2-shooting. But that's where it should have stopped. We have this system for a reason, and there shouldn't have been a kick, and certainly not a ban, on top of it. The system is there to prevent 2-shooting, and punishes immediately through a dialog message, which freezes you and thus takes away the advantage of 2-shooting. In Natzuks case, it was the first warning (warnings get reset every time you join the game), and the first warning doesn't have an auto-punishment included (we do this because it might always be a bug, or it might happen by accident, so the warnings start at level 2). But again, that's where it should have ended.
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Oo natzuk.y u do this...now i'm scared i will not join the game...or maybe i'll use health hacks to kill you cause i'm a pplv i use hack without getting banned ...
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Does not say it for you friend we know who of your clan uses advantage but at least I do not spend my time in reporting them, we know to accept who has skills you are one of them and we know who abuses or takes advantage of one form or another
Oo natzuk.y u do this...now i'm scared i will not join the game...or maybe i'll use health hacks to kill you cause i'm a pplv i use hack without getting banned ...
According to the theme Jonne I want to make it clear that I respect you and I have nothing against you or anyone is a game and no longer should pass from there but as I said already once you are doing things that tenshi towards, and sorry for what I am going to Say but some of your staff are plenty do not do their job well and some will say that it is not easy but whoever has or wants to be in the staff should be committed to you and the server, sometime between my friends predicted tension and closing Of the server and if you continue giving power to people who should not have it, you will make the same mistakes as the one who took to the closing of that server was that staff and not tenshi, it is my opinion and I am not nobody to comment on this you know what You do and if you want to take it, take it with a tip.
First of all, Jonne i guess you know but anti-cheat is banning people that doesn't hack by mistake, c-bug warnings when you don't c-bug and i never get a SCREEN warning for 2 shooting
I know that, that's why we have the current system ignoring the first warning, and only start punishing when you reach a higher warning level. That's also why the most this system will do, in terms of punishment, is a kick. That's also why I said he shouldn't have kicked you, and certainly shouldn't have banned you and to just let the system take care of it, so I don't really get what this topic is about?
I've looked at the logs, and the system did report Natzuk for 2-shooting. But that's where it should have stopped. We have this system for a reason, and there shouldn't have been a kick, and certainly not a ban, on top of it. The system is there to prevent 2-shooting, and punishes immediately through a dialog message, which freezes you and thus takes away the advantage of 2-shooting. In Natzuks case, it was the first warning (warnings get reset every time you join the game), and the first warning doesn't have an auto-punishment included (we do this because it might always be a bug, or it might happen by accident, so the warnings start at level 2). But again, that's where it should have ended.
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No entiendo de qué os seguís quejando. Creo que ha quedado bastante claro que el kick por parte de Cobra estuvo de más y fue innecesario, yo lo pienso y, lo que es más importante, el dueño de este server también lo piensa. Si te quejas porque piensas que eres inocente y que el sistema anti-2-shooting funcionó incorrectamente, tampoco veo el problema. No has recibido sanción alguna (aparte del kick de Cobra que, repito, creo que todo el mundo admite que fue incorrecto) por no haber alcanzado los 5 warnings (que es difícil alcanzar 5 warnings por fallo del sistema, de hecho dudo muchísimo que algo tan simple y sencillo de detectar falle alguna vez).
I don't get what you are still complaining about. I think it's clear enough that Cobra's kick was unnecessary, I believe that, and what is more important, the server owner also thinks that. In case you're complaining because you believe you're innocent and the anti-2-shooting system made a mistake, I can't see the problem either. You weren't punished at all (apart from Cobra's kick which, I repeat, practically everyone admits that was incorrect) since you didn't reach the 5 warnings (and it must be pretty hard to reach 5 warnings only by system mistakes, in fact I don't think that something so simple and easy to detect makes any mistakes at all).
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What you trying to do here is very simple. Trying to keep that "abuser" issue on around for a while.
This is not old PTP, This is Plan B. We all know that but what's the point of you guys reminding that? You gonna be new Ahmed of server with some threats? You gonna threat us with "we won't stop running after you guys". Or you guys wanna just bring all ctg clan here to warn Jonne about this?
Natzuk, you have been kicked by me instead of system gives you a warning for bug abusing. So does that makes you innocent? Did my kick make your 2-shoot never happened? I don't think so. Well, there were many of ctgs ingame and all they can come here, then will reply here to deny what happened there. They can be witness about Natzuk was innocent, they all can say about my kick was a huge abuse. I'm not hiding behind anyone or anything. I'm very clear. Maybe you are the people who trying to hide behind the abuse reports. Showing another target and trying hard then.
As I said, I'm open to everything, the only thing I've done wrong was I should let the system punish you instead of my kick.
I'm not hiding back of my admin statu or my clan leader position. Even you guys can see I'm not handling the reports of my members. I just let the other admins decide about PPLV member's reports. I always keep my admin duty away from clan business. I'm not that kind of guy who involves his clan to admin business. Because it has nothing to do with clan. If I was so, I would kick/jail all of you for to enforce /duty rule at the begining.
But I'm not that kind of person. I see all latinos trying hard to get me down when I'm in server. I just play it as how it supposed to be. I don't use rockets, miniguns or pushing you guys away. So much hate on me from latinos. I can feel, maybe you guys seeing me as new Adolf Hitler for latinos. But you will realize I'm the new George Marshall (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Marshall) ;)
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Chill out everybody! that was just a bad day and everything is already sorted out. Try to be nice to each other. e.e
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Chill out everybody! that was just a bad day and everything is already sorted out. Try to be nice to each other. e.e
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Hello?
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Hello?
Hello danke
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Chill out everybody! that was just a bad day and everything is already sorted out. Try to be nice to each other. e.e
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Hello?
Hello danke
Stop spamming my off topic post, SKITTOLZ ban them
No entiendo de qué os seguís quejando. Creo que ha quedado bastante claro que el kick por parte de Cobra estuvo de más y fue innecesario, yo lo pienso y, lo que es más importante, el dueño de este server también lo piensa. Si te quejas porque piensas que eres inocente y que el sistema anti-2-shooting funcionó incorrectamente, tampoco veo el problema. No has recibido sanción alguna (aparte del kick de Cobra que, repito, creo que todo el mundo admite que fue incorrecto) por no haber alcanzado los 5 warnings (que es difícil alcanzar 5 warnings por fallo del sistema, de hecho dudo muchísimo que algo tan simple y sencillo de detectar falle alguna vez).
I don't get what you are still complaining about. I think it's clear enough that Cobra's kick was unnecessary, I believe that, and what is more important, the server owner also thinks that. In case you're complaining because you believe you're innocent and the anti-2-shooting system made a mistake, I can't see the problem either. You weren't punished at all (apart from Cobra's kick which, I repeat, practically everyone admits that was incorrect) since you didn't reach the 5 warnings (and it must be pretty hard to reach 5 warnings only by system mistakes, in fact I don't think that something so simple and easy to detect makes any mistakes at all).
Hice esto antes de entrar al juego, no me quejo si quisiera podria hacer reportes todo el dia de ellos, porque simplemente tienen un lider admin y no siguen las reglas y no se esfuerza por "Recordarselos"
Que vayan a tomar por culo y ya 8)
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Hey guys, did you know that water is liquid?
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Hey guys, did you know that water is liquid?
You know you can only drink LAVA once..
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Calm your tits 8)
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I think Cobra[PPLV] is obsessed with Ahmed xD
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Hey guys, did you know that water is liquid?
Don't let this fact distract you from the fact that The Warriors blew a 3-1 lead.
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Calm your tits 8)
Lol xddddddddd :d
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Calm your tits 8)
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I think Cobra[PPLV] is obsessed with Ahmed xD
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-22-2015/zJa8kX.gif)
I miss him :'(
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Hey guys, did you know that water is liquid?
Woah, Altus explain this pls!
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I didn't want to reply here first, because everything is clear and sapienti sat. But...
NatzuK, what's the point of this topic?
I was also... let's say, confused, when I saw the topic about COBRA and his reaction to it. Everybody was on your side in that situation. There is no denying that COBRA made a mistake kicking you, then he made a few mistakes more after that. But all of the mistakes are corrected now. They say, he is lifeless that is faultless. COBRA explained his position in details here (http://jonne.be/forum/index.php?topic=444.msg6656#msg6656), he listed his reasons to punish you, although he did it ex gratia, he wasn't obligated to explain himself about it even if he was wrong: he could've left it for admins' section. He said 'sorry'. Your report has been handled appropriately and server owner also said 'sorry' to you. And after that you are making this topic with senseless subject and cheep sensation style content?..
Do you want COBRA to get demoted after his mistake? Then forget about ban appeal section on forums completely. Let's punish severely for every small mistake - and end up on empty desolated server. But anyways, if you want an admin to be demoted, you can follow this pattern:
I think that admin <admin's nickname> should be demoted, because <list of reasons>. It was expressed in <list of admin's inappropriate actions>, which is proven by <list of proofs>. He was prevously reported and warned for it <list of links to previous reports>.
As far as I know Jonne, he agrees that friendship is friendship, but work is work, even if it is administrator's work over the gaming server. So be sure that your report will be handled fairly and appopriate - of course, if it is not fake. Much like your report has been handled. Learn to prove your words, and they will be treated accordingly. For now your groundless accusations look just like spamming.
So, I see three reasons why you've make this topic:
- It was just a hysteria, uncontrollable burst of emotions. Well, both of COBRA and Jonne babysat you here, although I wouldn't react to your accusations expressed in this form on their place. Anyways, the goal is reached, the topic can be closed;
- You decided to spit into Jonne's face after his reaction to your report. Indeed, it's an example of very dignified behaviour. But your spit didn't reach its target, instead, you made yourself look worse after that. Again, the topic can be closed;
- You tried to make yourself look like you are the apologist of ctg clan interests. Well, maybe your fellow clanmates fell on it. But in fact your interests were protected by anyone who criticized COBRA's actions before your report was handled. And once again, the job is done, the topic can be closed.
So, if you state that Jonne adopts Tenshi's methods and that the administrators are unpunished, learn to prove your words. Otherwise, don't be surprised that they are ignored or mocked.
Woah, Altus explain this pls!
Ez. Why do you think water is liquid in standard conditions while most of other similar hydrogenic compounds like CH4, NH3, HF, H2S, HCl etc are gases? Because it can form up to 4 hydrogenic bonds, which is possible because electron clouds are significantly shifted towards oxygen atom due to huge difference between oxygen's and hydrogen's atoms electronegativity. Being able to form additional bonds with other molecules, water needs significantly more energy to melt and boil than similar compounds. If hydrogenic bonds didn't exist, you wouldn't be sitting there and spamming on forums, Carg!
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I enjoyed the essay Altus :-')
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Very good read.
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Very good read.
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Hello?
Format your hello!
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Woah, Altus explain this pls!
Ez. Why do you think water is liquid in standard conditions while most of other similar hydrogenic compounds like CH4, NH3, HF, H2S, HCl etc are gases? Because it can form up to 4 hydrogenic bonds, which is possible because electron clouds are significantly shifted towards oxygen atom due to huge difference between oxygen's and hydrogen's atoms electronegativity. Being able to form additional bonds with other molecules, water needs significantly more energy to melt and boil than similar compounds. If hydrogenic bonds didn't exist, you wouldn't be sitting there and spamming on forums, Carg!
Still better than my chemistry teacher back in high school
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I didn't want to reply here first, because everything is clear and sapienti sat. But...
NatzuK, what's the point of this topic?
I was also... let's say, confused, when I saw the topic about COBRA and his reaction to it. Everybody was on your side in that situation. There is no denying that COBRA made a mistake kicking you, then he made a few mistakes more after that. But all of the mistakes are corrected now. They say, he is lifeless that is faultless. COBRA explained his position in details here (http://jonne.be/forum/index.php?topic=444.msg6656#msg6656), he listed his reasons to punish you, although he did it ex gratia, he wasn't obligated to explain himself about it even if he was wrong: he could've left it for admins' section. He said 'sorry'. Your report has been handled appropriately and server owner also said 'sorry' to you. And after that you are making this topic with senseless subject and cheep sensation style content?..
Do you want COBRA to get demoted after his mistake? Then forget about ban appeal section on forums completely. Let's punish severely for every small mistake - and end up on empty desolated server. But anyways, if you want an admin to be demoted, you can follow this pattern:
I think that admin <admin's nickname> should be demoted, because <list of reasons>. It was expressed in <list of admin's inappropriate actions>, which is proven by <list of proofs>. He was prevously reported and warned for it <list of links to previous reports>.
As far as I know Jonne, he agrees that friendship is friendship, but work is work, even if it is administrator's work over the gaming server. So be sure that your report will be handled fairly and appopriate - of course, if it is not fake. Much like your report has been handled. Learn to prove your words, and they will be treated accordingly. For now your groundless accusations look just like spamming.
So, I see three reasons why you've make this topic:
- It was just a hysteria, uncontrollable burst of emotions. Well, both of COBRA and Jonne babysat you here, although I wouldn't react to your accusations expressed in this form on their place. Anyways, the goal is reached, the topic can be closed;
- You decided to spit into Jonne's face after his reaction to your report. Indeed, it's an example of very dignified behaviour. But your spit didn't reach its target, instead, you made yourself look worse after that. Again, the topic can be closed;
- You tried to make yourself look like you are the apologist of ctg clan interests. Well, maybe your fellow clanmates fell on it. But in fact your interests were protected by anyone who criticized COBRA's actions before your report was handled. And once again, the job is done, the topic can be closed.
So, if you state that Jonne adopts Tenshi's methods and that the administrators are unpunished, learn to prove your words. Otherwise, don't be surprised that they are ignored or mocked.
Woah, Altus explain this pls!
Ez. Why do you think water is liquid in standard conditions while most of other similar hydrogenic compounds like CH4, NH3, HF, H2S, HCl etc are gases? Because it can form up to 4 hydrogenic bonds, which is possible because electron clouds are significantly shifted towards oxygen atom due to huge difference between oxygen's and hydrogen's atoms electronegativity. Being able to form additional bonds with other molecules, water needs significantly more energy to melt and boil than similar compounds. If hydrogenic bonds didn't exist, you wouldn't be sitting there and spamming on forums, Carg!
Any1 put that in 5-10 words? i just saw demote cobra i agree i guess?
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Woah, Altus explain this pls!
Ez. Why do you think water is liquid in standard conditions while most of other similar hydrogenic compounds like CH4, NH3, HF, H2S, HCl etc are gases? Because it can form up to 4 hydrogenic bonds, which is possible because electron clouds are significantly shifted towards oxygen atom due to huge difference between oxygen's and hydrogen's atoms electronegativity. Being able to form additional bonds with other molecules, water needs significantly more energy to melt and boil than similar compounds. If hydrogenic bonds didn't exist, you wouldn't be sitting there and spamming on forums, Carg!
This is the answer I am waiting for, because it's really bugging me and I couldn't sleep these past couple of nights thinking of this. Now I can sleep well. Thank you, Altus!
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Any1 put that in 5-10 words? i just saw demote cobra i agree i guess?
You should answer him with a few words like as "ez, noob, kkkkkkkk". Since ctgs always doing it for to communication, we can welcome those words for you and your fellas ::)
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AH! Too much to read no thanks.
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Any1 put that in 5-10 words? i just saw demote cobra i agree i guess?
You should answer him with a few words like as "ez, noob, kkkkkkkk". Since ctgs always doing it for to communication, we can welcome those words for you and your fellas ::)
Izi*
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Any1 put that in 5-10 words? i just saw demote cobra i agree i guess?
You should answer him with a few words like as "ez, noob, kkkkkkkk". Since ctgs always doing it for to communication, we can welcome those words for you and your fellas ::)
Izi*
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Honestly, this shit is starting to piss me off. It's not protecting "admins from punishment" that is the problem, it's bullshit reports that are either badly supported or basically pointless. It has been implied that PPLV is being a problem- bullshit. I rarely see a PPLV member do something questionable. When I'm president, I'm glad to have them as security, because I know, regardless of their proximity to the me, they're actually doing their job.
Barto was reported for "death evading". He has a 0.61 ratio (http://jonne.be/cp/player.php?id=1183)- why the hell would he death evade? COBRA was reported for "abusing", which isn't even worth discussion, and now this bullshit topic has appeared. Most of you haven't even taken videos of the so-called "abuse", just pretty pictures of PPLV members being effective, as usual- I guess you've learned that it's much easier to smear someone's reputation with actions that are taken out of context. Out of the recent reports, only Altus' report for Nervous is well-documented and seems entirely legitimate.
This is reminding me of the cesspool of a report section that existed on the old PTP. It's mostly clan-related shit-slinging and very little is actually relevant. If PPLV is so horrible, then why the fuck are you guys suddenly reporting them so often now? Shouldn't you have a backlog of material? I notice that Blitz, who has been registered on the forum since October, is suddenly making his second post by jumping on the bandwagon and making a bullshit report for SoLoD. Coincidentally (or not), with the exception of Altus' report for Nervous, every recent reporter of PPLV members is either Ctg or GgT. Every recent report of a PPLV member is questionable, except for Altus'. This is why I have no interest in being in a clan- this kind of bullshit has little to do with the game. I play to have fun, not to try to get people in trouble who don't share the same tag as me.
I'm not saying PPLV is perfect, or that they and other clans don't also put out their share of dumb reports, but really. Unless someone has a documented history and there is ample evidence, is it really worth it to waste everyone's time?
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is it really worth it to waste everyone's time?
Sorry for all latin americans that don't have 100-500 fps pcs(if they did i believe they would be playing something else) 100mb/s internet to record n upload videos so frecuently, and sorry for no following duty when a convoy of 5 terro/cop chases you all over the map killing you and as soon you leave spawn it's repeated / we just do what is done to us
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(...) It's mostly clan-related shit-slinging (...)
This is why I like reading your replies, always some great, hilarious sentences ;D
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shake hands guys pls
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I think everything has been said here. If anyone still has any issues or questions regarding this, feel free to PM me.