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Information => News & Updates => Topic started by: Jonne on February 12, 2018, 01:47:26 pm

Title: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Jonne on February 12, 2018, 01:47:26 pm
Hi everyone,

Effective today, the spree system has been removed from PTP. We've taken this decision after numerous complaints and bans for spreefixing during the last couple of months. We're doing this because the spree system, as people are using it now and the way it's evolving, is doing more harm to the gamemode than good. More and more sprees are 'planned' and dominating the gamemode in that way, instead of only being a side objective. Especially picking the president slot, with the only intention to die in the last seconds to keep a spree going, while other players are wasting their time trying to protect or kill him is something we consider damaging to the gamemode and thus want to prevent. There are rules in place to prevent spree fixing, but we noticed that those rules can't completely prevent it as more and more people try to find ways around them. A lot of players aren't aware of that rule, and are just trying to help the ones having a spree without knowing it's not allowed. Also, it's not always possible to prove if someone died 'intentionally' or not as a president, so the rule isn't really efficient anymore. So, all of this taken into account, we decided to remove the spree system.
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Vishwas on February 12, 2018, 01:54:24 pm
Fair Enough. I see cops blocking Terro spawns just to get that high spree and brag about it.
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Son_Gun on February 12, 2018, 02:02:54 pm
Good decision. This will definitely end the spreefixing. I've seen multiple times that cops and civilians teamup near armor for spreefixing.
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Rage on February 12, 2018, 02:15:51 pm
Good decision. This will definitely end the spreefixing. I've seen multiple times that cops and civilians teamup near armor for spreefixing.
Sometimes the game is boring that why they do it but a question so /spree [ID] and /bestspree will not working ? And this "Vishwas is on killing spree 127 kills" will not appear?
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Vishwas on February 12, 2018, 02:24:38 pm
Good decision. This will definitely end the spreefixing. I've seen multiple times that cops and civilians teamup near armor for spreefixing.
Sometimes the game is boring that why they do it but a question so /spree [ID] and /bestspree will not working ? And this "Vishwas is on killing spree 127 kills" will not appear?
Complete Spree system is removed , this includes:
1. Removal of text in the right bottom saying "Vishwas is on killing spree 127 kills"
2. Removal of both commands  /spree [ID] and /bestspree
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Rage on February 12, 2018, 02:26:44 pm
Ok thanks Vishwas /part :D anyways good job Jonne :)
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Alex. on February 12, 2018, 02:34:50 pm
Good decision! I would never think of that
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: COBRA on February 12, 2018, 03:32:25 pm
Good decision! Some new mods won't be able to allow their clan mates for spree fixing anymore
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: BugsBunny on February 12, 2018, 03:50:59 pm
Good decision! Some new mods won't be able to allow their clan mates for spree fixing anymore
#Sorrynotsorry
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Maddy on February 12, 2018, 03:58:33 pm
Good Decision  :)
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Storm on February 12, 2018, 04:07:46 pm
RIP Sprees! Good decision removing it though.


PS: Congratulations Sani for being the PTP's highest killing spree with 151 kills
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Lohit_The_Noob on February 12, 2018, 04:33:33 pm
Just when I changed my name back from SpreeFixer.. :o

Illuminati everywhere.

jk

Good Decision.

GG no Re
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Hito on February 12, 2018, 05:46:13 pm
Great decision 👍

unban LoDs Now
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Madman on February 12, 2018, 08:08:28 pm
Some kinda good decision but it's a bit hard to forget those times :'(
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: GlennN on February 12, 2018, 08:23:09 pm
Anything for the betterment of the community.
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Saurabh on February 13, 2018, 05:07:29 am
Appreciated :)
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Magic on February 13, 2018, 11:55:12 am
Good discusion thats comfortable
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Daffy on February 13, 2018, 12:22:42 pm
It's A Shame Really But Its The Right Decision.

All We Can Do Is Blame Mike And The Rest Of LoD'S!  :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Carg on February 13, 2018, 01:50:00 pm
It's A Shame Really But Its The Right Decision.

All We Can Do Is Blame Mike And The Rest Of LoD'S!  :P :P :P :P
No you can't blame them, it's just the spree system was unfair and useless.
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Mavik on February 13, 2018, 02:08:05 pm
Anything for the betterment of the community.

+1
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Moam on February 13, 2018, 02:10:37 pm
Best decision! Becuse everytime i try to get on a high the president always die or they leave the game:p
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: BugsBunny on February 13, 2018, 02:27:48 pm
Why not keeping the killing spree on the bottom right of the screen tho?
If the spree is off so it wouldn't hurt anyone ;3
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Ege on February 13, 2018, 02:51:30 pm
I think this would solve only a half of this problem. Although I was against it when it was suggested but you should also consider removing/changing the score system, if you remove the spree feature for the sake of gamemode. Afterall the current score system is based on the amount of the kills you get rather than your contribution to the gamemode , just like the sprees.
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: ZooMa on February 13, 2018, 03:14:14 pm
aww oke
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Kidnapper on February 13, 2018, 04:10:53 pm
I appreciate with jonne's decision. Now there will be peace instead of spree whoring.
Thank you Jonne  :)
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Chetan on February 13, 2018, 05:00:15 pm
It's A Shame Really But Its The Right Decision.

All We Can Do Is Blame Mike And The Rest Of LoD'S!  :P :P :P :P

Thanks to them but I don't like this decision of removing the sprees. PTP seems different without that spree text  :(
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Crash on February 13, 2018, 05:38:10 pm
How to showoff tha skillz now?
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Lohit_The_Noob on February 13, 2018, 06:29:24 pm
Let's not pretend that only LoDs are the one to be blamed for this change.




 
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: ZooMa on February 13, 2018, 10:28:50 pm
It's A Shame Really But Its The Right Decision.

All We Can Do Is Blame Mike And The Rest Of LoD'S!  :P :P :P :P

Thanks to them but I don't like this decision of removing the sprees. PTP seems different without that spree text  :(
truth :(
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Alcor on February 14, 2018, 02:52:54 am
i joined today and thought that something was wrong with my sa-mp layout so i rage quit.

Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Haunt3r on February 14, 2018, 02:38:48 pm
i joined today and thought that something was wrong with my sa-mp layout so i rage quit.
Life goals.
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Ege on February 14, 2018, 07:10:51 pm
i joined today and thought that something was wrong with my sa-mp layout so i rage quit.


Lmao gg men
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: COBRA on February 14, 2018, 08:27:02 pm
i joined today and thought that something was wrong with my sa-mp layout so i rage quit.
Like a boss!
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: YoMama on February 15, 2018, 05:29:11 am
I think this would solve only a half of this problem. Although I was against it when it was suggested but you should also consider removing/changing the score system, if you remove the spree feature for the sake of gamemode. Afterall the current score system is based on the amount of the kills you get rather than your contribution to the gamemode , just like the sprees.
Removing the spree system is certainly a step in the right direction, but yeah, removing the K/D scores would make this even better. Even if it takes a while to create a scoring system that is more representative of the gamemode, it would be nice to have a few simple stats to replace the K/D stats, like keeping track of President kills/kill assists and how often the President survives when a player is security/police.
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Storm on February 15, 2018, 03:37:59 pm
I think this would solve only a half of this problem. Although I was against it when it was suggested but you should also consider removing/changing the score system, if you remove the spree feature for the sake of gamemode. Afterall the current score system is based on the amount of the kills you get rather than your contribution to the gamemode , just like the sprees.
Removing the spree system is certainly a step in the right direction, but yeah, removing the K/D scores would make this even better. Even if it takes a while to create a scoring system that is more representative of the gamemode, it would be nice to have a few simple stats to replace the K/D stats, like keeping track of President kills/kill assists and how often the President survives when a player is security/police.

I agree. The main focus of PTP's /stats should be President Kills/Deaths/Survivals and President Win %, not kills, deaths and k/d ratio

Also add:

And then enable the score system, +5 score when you survive as president, +3 when you kill the president, +3 if you are a security and the president wins and +1 for a normal kill
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Lohit_The_Noob on February 15, 2018, 04:00:25 pm
We can learn a thing or few of the scoring system from the MTA PTP server. It's pretty good and favors the gamemode.
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Spectre on February 15, 2018, 04:25:14 pm
Removing the spree system is certainly a step in the right direction, but yeah, removing the K/D scores would make this even better. Even if it takes a while to create a scoring system that is more representative of the gamemode, it would be nice to have a few simple stats to replace the K/D stats, like keeping track of President kills/kill assists and how often the President survives when a player is security/police.

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Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Alex. on February 15, 2018, 10:36:14 pm
Make a spree in killing the president, ez. 
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Hito on February 15, 2018, 10:41:46 pm
Make a spree in killing the president, ez.
That's brilliant idea 👌
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: GlennN on February 16, 2018, 12:05:02 am
Make a spree in killing the president, ez.
That's brilliant idea 👌
Hicham's name would always pop up in the corner then  ;D
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: YoMama on February 16, 2018, 03:52:34 am
We can learn a thing or few of the scoring system from the MTA PTP server. It's pretty good and favors the gamemode.
Could you elaborate on this?

I agree. The main focus of PTP's /stats should be President Kills/Deaths/Survivals and President Win %, not kills, deaths and k/d ratio

Also add:
  • /toppresikills - for players with most president kills
  • /bestpresis - best survival % as president

And then enable the score system, +5 score when you survive as president, +3 when you kill the president, +3 if you are a security and the president wins and +1 for a normal kill
I don't like the idea of a "best presis" command. I do have a conflict of interest here, but survival percentage, in my opinion, is not really indicative of skill. Many people have good survival numbers because they are popular, many people refuse to attack them, they only play as President when there aren't good players around to stop them, or when the player count is low, etc. It would be more informative to look at players' President stats in the context of the people they were playing against. Someone who survives once or twice against top players shows more skill than someone who survives 10 times with all the top players on their team. A simple way of rewarding this would be to give points for survival that are based on the skills of each of the opposing players (surviving against an opposing player with 100 president kills over 100 hours of play would give more points than surviving against one with 5 president kills over 50 hours of play, and the points for surviving against each player would be summed up).
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: SoLoD on February 17, 2018, 08:17:34 am
Trying to kill/protect spreekeeper was the most exciting thing on todays ptp. Well done with deleting it. Well fucking DONE.
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Lohit_The_Noob on February 17, 2018, 09:15:45 am
Trying to kill/protect spreekeeper was the most exciting thing on todays ptp. Well done with deleting it. Well fucking DONE.

wut
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: YoMama on February 17, 2018, 10:03:53 am
Trying to kill/protect spreekeeper was the most exciting thing on todays ptp. Well done with deleting it. Well fucking DONE.
-1

Yeah, I only wish the vice spreekeeper had been visible though, because then mods could make sure they aren't in the same vehicle so the map keeps going if they die. Gonna miss driving directly from the spreekeeper's spawn to camp at armor- a revolutionary strategy. So many duty issues though. Some of the team would go chase that dumb fucking yellow blip. Noobs.
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: SoLoD on February 18, 2018, 05:25:11 am
Trying to kill/protect spreekeeper was the most exciting thing on todays ptp. Well done with deleting it. Well fucking DONE.
-1
Yeah, I only wish the vice spreekeeper had been visible though, because then mods could make sure they aren't in the same vehicle so the map keeps going if they die. Gonna miss driving directly from the spreekeeper's spawn to camp at armor- a revolutionary strategy. So many duty issues though. Some of the team would go chase that dumb fucking yellow blip. Noobs.
Players not playing gamemod is not a problem because today it is not "determined" as a problem at all.
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: [RD]Yan on February 19, 2018, 12:06:13 pm
Lot Players are disappearing   :o
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: YoMama on February 19, 2018, 02:08:25 pm
Lot Players are disappearing   :o
I'm not sure where you're getting this from. I just saw 50+ players in the server recently. If people actually were disappearing because of this change, where's the problem? The more toxic players leave, the more welcome new players will feel.

(http://monitor.sacnr.com/graphm-1784707.png)
(http://monitor.sacnr.com/graphmp-1784707.png)
...still not seeing anything unusual here.
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: [RD]Yan on February 19, 2018, 09:24:18 pm
Lot Players are disappearing   :o
I'm not sure where you're getting this from. I just saw 50+ players in the server recently. If people actually were disappearing because of this change, where's the problem? The more toxic players leave, the more welcome new players will feel.

(http://monitor.sacnr.com/graphm-1784707.png)
(http://monitor.sacnr.com/graphmp-1784707.png)
...still not seeing anything unusual here.

Act me iam happy of this +11 it will make us more beside to gamemode
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Kidnapper on February 20, 2018, 08:12:36 am
Well to be honest I got something related to this empty server thingy
https://imgur.com/a/0UNeS
It happened today.
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Alex. on February 20, 2018, 09:58:12 am
Well to be honest I got something related to this empty server thingy
https://imgur.com/a/0UNeS
It happened today.
What time was it when you were playing lol
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Lohit_The_Noob on February 20, 2018, 03:20:09 pm
Well to be honest I got something related to this empty server thingy
https://imgur.com/a/0UNeS
It happened today.

Server actually is pretty empty during the early/late hours.

I myself have played with only 1-2 players at times (during the time I was free too much xd).
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Saurabh on February 24, 2018, 05:44:24 pm
It is empty around 11pm (gmt+0) , problem for latinos/Filipinos and Australians
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Safi on February 25, 2018, 01:48:01 pm
Nice Jonne?
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Chetan on February 26, 2018, 06:47:07 am
Well to be honest I got something related to this empty server thingy
https://imgur.com/a/0UNeS
It happened today.

Server actually is pretty empty during the early/late hours.

I myself have played with only 1-2 players at times (during the time I was free too much xd).

I just logged in and was alone in the server XD president doing some stunts LOL
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: (1)[H]nZ88 on March 02, 2018, 07:25:40 pm
Well, I love that /bestspree got removed. That will quite positively kill spree fixing. In my opinion, stat tracking in general really isn't something that is necessary for this gamemode as it motivates people to do other things from following /duty.
I will forever miss the bottom right text though and removing current sprees isnt something that was needed, I believe. It has been stated before that K/D and score are still issues. How do sprees differ from plain ol' score? Just cause the person hasn't died in between doesn't change much. People can still gloat "my score is bigger than yours," and have the president kill himself to keep the top scoring person getting it even higher, but who knows, maybe people won't do that. Without sprees, survival while having many kills isn't as important as just having a good KD, but I guess terrorists and police killing eachother for KD doesn't really conflict with /duty, if the terrorists still keep the presi as the primary objective, since killing a cop helps the terrorist team overall and the duty of police is literally to kill terrorists.
Anyways, I still like the change. I personally only play for duty and don't care about stats that much, which means I seldom play police and civilian. This change has definitely lessened the amount of people camping armor pickups and made more people focus on the president, so well done guys, thumbs up.
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: pistolstar on March 02, 2018, 10:32:08 pm
Good decision! Some new mods won't be able to allow their clan mates for spree fixing anymore
Sumit now how am I going to abooze your power for gaining my pro spree?
Joking..
But now It feels lil odd in down right corner of my screen, but removing it was necessary.
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Ege on March 03, 2018, 06:19:15 pm
I can finally place my speedometer bottom right corner !
before that I gotta return tho
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Kidnapper on March 04, 2018, 06:20:24 am
I can finally place my speedometer bottom right corner !
before that I gotta return tho
Lol what?
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Lohit_The_Noob on March 04, 2018, 12:01:32 pm
I can finally place my speedometer bottom right corner !
before that I gotta return tho
Lol what?

Speedometer mods are placed in the bottom right corner where the Sprees were shown before.
He is inactive you nab
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Vishwas on March 11, 2018, 07:08:28 pm
Lot Players are disappearing   :o
Doubt it
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Cubey on March 21, 2018, 11:29:39 am
Yea I hate those spree fixers (I am one of them  ;D)
Title: Re: Sprees have been removed
Post by: Matt on April 18, 2018, 06:24:40 am
Sucks but the nation of bhai India can't abuse it anymore for good