Plan B

General => Suggestions => Added => Topic started by: Mia on August 25, 2018, 07:12:30 pm

Title: [Added]Make North Red County river fully navigable
Post by: Mia on August 25, 2018, 07:12:30 pm
There is a section of the river in northern Red County, near president spawn, that is entirely out of bounds. This splits the river in two parts, so you can't take a boat a navigate throughout the river.

I suggest to make use of polygonal boundaries and add a small arch that spans the map a bit towards north in this section of the river. Something like what is in red:

(https://i.imgur.com/QC8zfsx.png)
Title: Re: Make North Red County river fully navigable
Post by: Dylan on August 25, 2018, 07:42:25 pm
I totally agree but is this possible? ::)
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Post by: Mia on August 25, 2018, 07:54:14 pm
I totally agree but is this possible? ::)

Yes
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Post by: Air on August 25, 2018, 07:56:34 pm
That part has been annoying me for a long time now even with a helicopter  , but i thought it was impossible to fix 
+1
 
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Post by: SaFi on August 25, 2018, 08:22:50 pm
Nice Mia +1
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Post by: Yash on August 25, 2018, 09:58:53 pm
+1
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Post by: Cyrus_ on August 25, 2018, 10:39:13 pm
agreed
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Post by: Menace on August 26, 2018, 02:58:08 am
-1
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Post by: Bully on August 26, 2018, 05:36:22 am
I ll still take rustler :D to move around that part.
+1
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Post by: Saurabh on August 26, 2018, 06:14:40 am
+1
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Post by: Son_Gun on August 26, 2018, 07:29:23 am
+1
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Post by: Maddy on August 26, 2018, 07:38:14 am
+1
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Post by: Chetan on August 26, 2018, 08:42:54 am
That part has been annoying me for a long time now even with a helicopter  , but i thought it was impossible to fix 
+1
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Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on August 26, 2018, 09:20:40 am
+1 But I would like if same were done for other maps with similar problems.

This server doesn't have good mapped borders.

Map wise its' dumb if we can't fully navigate the water routes in County Maps.

For Flint County, Boats are never encouraged because the map is restrictive on the borders,another problem is you can't climb back if you fall in waters near the airport and the biggest problem above all is that the Fallen Tree is completely inaccessible, it's a very good spot for map both for camping and having fun.

(https://preview.ibb.co/mFLqdU/Flint_County.png) (https://ibb.co/ka1JXp)

For WV I'd like the northern borders to be expanded so boats could navigate better (eg:president falls into water), most of it is restricted by mountains and this area is good for escapades.

(https://preview.ibb.co/eYt459/WV.png) (https://ibb.co/bThxQ9)

For City Maps I'd like LS water route to be fully navigable and that dumb East Los Santos barrier removed so the full highway can be driven on and also the terrain outside of Airport.

Updated to V2 to open up the western regions to make it more boat friendly, and access to Richman-Vinewood region fully accessible via various land routes.

(https://preview.ibb.co/mh1sG9/Los-Santos.png) (https://ibb.co/hif6JU)

For SF, one of the things I never liked on the server was the inaccessibility of the Bridges and a chunk of airport being cutoff. [Updated v2 to open up the western waters and open up the airport area.] 

(https://image.ibb.co/krGaie/San_Fierro.png)


LV Map Suggestion ( Go to Page 2 for Explanations)

(https://image.ibb.co/nh9MuU/Las-Venturas.png)


RC Map Suggestion (Go to Page 3 For Explanations)

(https://image.ibb.co/dA5buU/Red-County.png)
Title: Re: Make North Red County river fully navigable
Post by: Madman on August 26, 2018, 11:04:10 am
Great suggestion Mia,it'll be useful.
+1
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Post by: Brian_Walker on August 26, 2018, 12:18:47 pm
+1
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Post by: Skittles on August 26, 2018, 02:03:59 pm
Yes, I totally support the suggestions of both Mia and Lohit. Goob job, by the way.
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Post by: Rage on August 26, 2018, 06:32:01 pm
+1 :)
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Post by: Saurabh on August 27, 2018, 04:35:41 pm
Geegee lohit
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Post by: YoMama on August 29, 2018, 06:29:55 pm
Yes, using the polygonal boundaries has been suggested before and I still think it should be done. It would have sucked when we couldn't see the boundaries, but now there isn't really a good reason not to.

Maybe I'm missing something, but is there a reason why the boundaries lines are perpendicular in the examples so far? In Mia's suggestion, I could see getting bounced between the boundaries because they're somewhat close. If the boundaries don't have to be perpendicular, I could see making the boundary more closely follow the river in that example and many other places.
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Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on August 29, 2018, 09:19:58 pm
Yes, using the polygonal boundaries has been suggested before and I still think it should be done. It would have sucked when we couldn't see the boundaries, but now there isn't really a good reason not to.

Maybe I'm missing something, but is there a reason why the boundaries lines are perpendicular in the examples so far? In Mia's suggestion, I could see getting bounced between the boundaries because they're somewhat close. If the boundaries don't have to be perpendicular, I could see making the boundary more closely follow the river in that example and many other places.


I made most of those with the NSA mapping reference on my mind, aka perpendicular mapping, just in case non perpendicular mapping isnt possible.

Although I would love and prefer that way of mapping if its possible.
Title: Re: Make North Red County river fully navigable
Post by: Mia on August 30, 2018, 12:41:40 am
Maybe I'm missing something, but is there a reason why the boundaries lines are perpendicular in the examples so far?

Yes, boundaries that go along other directions than north-south or east-west don't work very well.
Title: Re: Make North Red County river fully navigable
Post by: Uzumaki(うずまき) on August 30, 2018, 04:38:38 am
(https://image.ibb.co/k94HYU/Capture.png)
I would also like to see this part of LS accessible because Presidents, I myself, sometimes come speeding through the highway but get stopped by the boundary. Its not that nice since the escape would be difficult.
About your suggesstion +1.
Title: Re: Make North Red County river fully navigable
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on September 08, 2018, 05:26:00 pm
Looks like I made a fatal flaw in the SF map border expansion and got rekt by it today, you literally can't get out even with a bike if you fall off from the Palisadas Houses from the border, today as playing president I fell off in a FCR and couldnt escape towards north.  I tried to escape south and something even worse happened, I got sandwiched between the border and a 80 degree uphill wall, I couldnt even exit it midair due to slow speed and ultimately died due to constant collisions  in a already 450 HP bike.

I suggest to also expand the SF region from the west so not only the full water way route is available but also to avoid this poor mapping result in the future.

(https://image.ibb.co/cpsMzp/San_Fierro.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: Make North Red County river fully navigable
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on October 02, 2018, 11:18:41 pm
I updated the SF border plan suggestion a bit so that anybody can make a rough full lap around the airport and the whole runway is accessible. We'll blame aliens for suddenly getting repelled after the takeoff from the edge.

If the fallen tree Area becomes a issue just use another L shaped border to cut the corner and leave it out.

This can come in handy if player chooses to take a more cover based route to safety if he falls off near airport and needs longer time for takeoff or just wants to use the full runway.

(https://image.ibb.co/krGaie/San_Fierro.png)
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Post by: Đėmųń on October 03, 2018, 08:47:44 pm
Nice
+1
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Post by: cobby on October 03, 2018, 09:11:59 pm
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Title: Re: Make North Red County river fully navigable
Post by: Altus_Demens on October 08, 2018, 05:10:15 pm
Being the one who assisted with scripting the boundaries :D, I assure you that it is possible. Since it's been around two years already, I would like to perform some additional testing to make sure it will work fine.

P.S. Now you know that you should throw rotten vegetables at me if you don't like the polygonal boundaries. D:
Title: Re: Make North Red County river fully navigable
Post by: Spici_Popot on October 08, 2018, 07:25:57 pm
Special thanks to Mia and Lohit who took the opportunity of making this suggestion useful.
Title: Re: Make North Red County river fully navigable
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on October 12, 2018, 11:09:43 am
Ah shet, I forgot to make one more edit to the suggestion. In regards to LS, this is rather a bit important since NorthWest-North regions are unrealistically restricted. I'd like to correct that as well, and also open up new viable routes to the northern regions.

LS Border suggestion V2

(https://preview.ibb.co/mh1sG9/Los-Santos.png)


These solve the primary problems found as already marked in red region. The Richman areas are opened up. And all of the LS Vinewood region is accessible.

The Main LS Highway is opened up fully without a absurd pause and one can use that opened up region to flank from the right to the upper hills.

Similarly the western regions have been opened up to suit the water gameplay convenience. Should a president be stranded there, he can climb up to the FC regions, which has decent cover, and vehicles to make escape from and it also has a working petrol pump to spice things up. And with this the tunnels can be accessed from both sides. And can make a full loop with the FC Highways that connect into the LS-FC Bridge.

The Northwestern region corner has been expanded to reach a shore where the player can use to climb up to the Upper Hills of LS. I have made sure it doesn't leak into Blueberry and Red County Mainland too much.

Overall this sorta fully opens up the map and most part of Lost Santos accessible and fully explorable routes, which also is convenient to ground and boats.


Although it has more polygonal maps than the usual I suggest. But I believe this is good and will make LS feel more LS.



As for LV, at the time I forgot to make any suggestions for it.

(https://preview.ibb.co/hC6eg9/Las-Venturas.png) (https://ibb.co/co1C19)

Here, I'd like to open up the borders fully a bit so that Boats can actually make a comfortable travel rather than getting sandwiched terribly. As of right now the borders are too close to mainland and favour president getting squashed between border and areas that cannot be scaled and dying due to Water Timer.

The Southern Borders leak into the Northern Borders of LS a bit so people can climb up and escape into either the highways or the railway route. Alternatively this can be used to ambush Boats.



The Blue borders is just a extra suggestion to open up the mines. It doesn't get explored in WV and NSA due to Area69 and Ships. So this area gets left behind, while it has good potential in GM considering the various ramps, levels and covers and what not.


 


Title: Re: Make North Red County river fully navigable
Post by: Shark_The_Helicopter on October 12, 2018, 06:03:05 pm
Ye Ye Ik, I am making these suggestions late. Sorry for my dumbass but I wanted to suggest just one teeny weeny Border Suggestion for Red County.

(https://preview.ibb.co/ckC0M9/Red-County.png)

With this suggestion the big industrial factory will be finally be opened up fully. It's a very interesting place to camp on. There is a well known border error that traps players , which would also be fixed.

And more importantly the Bridge that connects back to Red County will be opened up and one can do a full loop from RC to Parts of FC and back to RC Again. And at the same times the FC Highway gets opened up.

Which helps compliment boats and climbing up to shore and then accessing the bridge to RC Route again.

Title: Re: Make North Red County river fully navigable
Post by: Son_Gun on October 12, 2018, 06:06:36 pm
Ye Ye Ik, I am making these suggestions late. Sorry for my dumbass but I wanted to suggest just one teeny weeny Border Suggestion for Red County.

(https://preview.ibb.co/ckC0M9/Red-County.png)

With this suggestion the big industrial factory will be finally be opened up fully. It's a very interesting place to camp on. There is a well known border error that traps players , which would also be fixed.

And more importantly the Bridge that connects back to Red County will be opened up and one can do a full loop from RC to Parts of FC and back to RC Again. And at the same times the FC Highway gets opened up.

Which helps compliment boats and climbing up to shore and then accessing the bridge to RC Route again.

Making Factory accessible will be the best thing.
+1 for this
Title: Re: Make North Red County river fully navigable
Post by: Rikka Takahashi on October 19, 2018, 12:54:09 pm
Ye Ye Ik, I am making these suggestions late. Sorry for my dumbass but I wanted to suggest just one teeny weeny Border Suggestion for Red County.

(https://preview.ibb.co/ckC0M9/Red-County.png)

With this suggestion the big industrial factory will be finally be opened up fully. It's a very interesting place to camp on. There is a well known border error that traps players , which would also be fixed.

And more importantly the Bridge that connects back to Red County will be opened up and one can do a full loop from RC to Parts of FC and back to RC Again. And at the same times the FC Highway gets opened up.

Which helps compliment boats and climbing up to shore and then accessing the bridge to RC Route again.

Making Factory accessible will be the best thing.
+1 for this
Sounds good to me
+1
Title: Re: Make North Red County river fully navigable
Post by: Rage on October 22, 2018, 11:26:04 am
+1
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Post by: Barbarianking on October 31, 2018, 09:10:20 pm
+1 on this
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Post by: Jonne on December 09, 2018, 04:05:32 pm
This has been added.