Remove Shamal from the game

[Yash]

Sorry, but all of us won't have the same opinions as yourself. You gotta respect that.

-1. Reasons mentioned above.

[MegaPilot]

Sorry, but all of us won't have the same opinions as yourself. You gotta respect that.

-1. Reasons mentioned above.

You know what all the people claiming that it can be taken down with a Rustler have in common? They can't take me down with a Rustler. So either I'm just a very shitty pilot ingame who doesn't know what he's talking about or some people just don't know what they're talking about.

Yes, you can meet with the plane at the boundaries. But I have hunted a Shamal 2 times for over 10 minutes without shooting it down. The boundary hunting is not enough, trust me.

I'm almost certain that this thing has never been tested. It baffles my mind that you guys are not okay with the president flying a Rustler, but you are okay with him gliding on a vehicle that's too fast(except NSA) for any other plane to catch up too. Try explaining me this.

[Sebastian]

+1.

[YoMama]

I really wonder why I even bother to suggest something here. There is zero logic on this forum. Rustler for president? No way, that's too hard! (It's not) President standing on Shamal? Why not, easy peasy! (It's not)

I'm almost certain that this thing has never been tested. It baffles my mind that you guys are not okay with the president flying a Rustler, but you are okay with him gliding on a vehicle that's too fast(except NSA) for any other plane to catch up too. Try explaining me this.

Yeah, I'm also kind of amazed that everyone apparently loves the Shamal because it is harder to deal with.

By coincidence, I had just quit the game after making a video on this when I saw your topic. I finally uploaded it- I've got an explanation of my strategy in the video description:

Shooting down a Shamal[with a rustler]

Another video:

Surfing terrorists shooting down a Shamal

Long story, short, it's definitely possible and usually easy- you're probably just using a bad strategy or not compensating for lag. Yes, they could theoretically fly really quickly at the highest altitude, but they'd be making themselves even more vulnerable (and easier to ram if you get your own Shamal). I've never had one with a surfer that I couldn't shoot down alone that I can think of, and if there's one I'm not remembering, good game to the pilot.

[CapriciousRobber]

(hey)

+1. The Shamal is extremely fast and can go up pretty high. The rustler, in comparison, is not as fast and cannot go up that high. I always thought it was unfair for the Pres to have a Shamal. I'm always too slow to catch up to him in the Rustler, and whenever I do get close to him, he's gone at the blink of an eye.

Not sure why this is an unpopular suggestion. It's really good and could further balance in PTP, a server that I think is extremely unbalanced.

[MiGu3X]

Use Hydra or learn to use another mechanic

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[Barbarianking]

yeah agree Shamal is kinda fast and it fly High too so +1

[Sebastian]

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[Freckles]

+1.

+1.

No need to vote twice 

[YoMama]

(hey)

+1. The Shamal is extremely fast and can go up pretty high. The rustler, in comparison, is not as fast and cannot go up that high. I always thought it was unfair for the Pres to have a Shamal. I'm always too slow to catch up to him in the Rustler, and whenever I do get close to him, he's gone at the blink of an eye.

Not sure why this is an unpopular suggestion. It's really good and could further balance in PTP, a server that I think is extremely unbalanced.

You're incorrect. All aircraft in GTA can sustain equally high flight. If you're having trouble shooting down Shamals with passengers, then see my video on it. Shamals without passengers can actually be difficult, but Presidents can only surf them, so it's much easier.

yeah agree Shamal is kinda fast and it fly High too so +1

The fact that it's got a lot of power is about the only advantage it has. It sucks at turning and takes forever to take off. Flying it with a surfer is difficult to do safely. If you're right behind the President anyway, it's easy to stop him from getting very far off the ground with it.

[EagleMan]

I can take down a shamal but for like 2-4 minutes. There is a technique tho. But yeah, most of us are having difficulty of taking it down.

I suggest someone must call me if president is in shamal. I will take him down. I can even ban him....

...just kidding.

But i am not so sure if we must remove the shamal completely. We should not eliminate stategies that is somehow possible to take it down (by rustler). Also, only few people knows this shamal strategy. Besides, when president is in shamal you will force yourself to use rustler and develop your flying skills, and you will no longer be stuck at shooting with *cough* war freaks *cough* everyday. 

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[Madman]

Na its good for allahu akbars
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[YoMama]

I can take down a shamal but for like 2-4 minutes. There is a technique tho. But yeah, most of us are having difficulty of taking it down.

I suggest someone must call me if president is in shamal. I will take him down. I can even ban him....

...just kidding.

But i am not so sure if we must remove the shamal completely. We should not eliminate stategies that is somehow possible to take it down (by rustler). Also, only few people knows this shamal strategy. Besides, when president is in shamal you will force yourself to use rustler and develop your flying skills, and you will no longer be stuck at shooting with *cough* war freaks *cough* everyday. 

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I think most people could pretty easily get to the point where they could shoot it down in 2-4 minutes if this happened often enough (which it doesn't, which gives even less of a reason to remove Shamals).

The problem is, for some inexplicable reason people are okay with taking 10 minutes to kill someone on the ground or in Area 69 and likely not succeeding, but once they have to spend a few minutes in the air to kill someone, even though their target is far more likely to die, they consider it a travesty.

[Brian_Walker]

Sometimes president need to survive 

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[Jonne]

The shamal won't be removed.