One Day we all will know the Truth .
Once again, an assumption. I see it's driven by your hope , hope of finding answers to those hundred of questions you must be having about your existence. Nothing more.
@yoman, i agree with all that.
@arabiane
I like this kind of conversations cause maybe i'll learn something from this.
Depends on if you are actually willing to learn something , which i think you do. Pm me, or just contact me somewhere if you want to discuss about anything related to this... a healthy discussion with two way exchange of ideas with least biasness.
I"m a believer ,i searched alot about my religion
That's the most common mistake that a believer of x religion does. He might scrutinize the x religion and find it so meaningful that he makes it as his own identity. And then he forgets about scrutinizing the y and z religions. I believe this happens when one person gets blinded by the majority of the x religion in his country.
and found it the only one that much science and cover every quetion i asked to my self in the past.
You said "I have searched a lot about MY religion" and you have nowhere mentioned if you "searched a lot" about the y and z religion as well, so i'm assuming here that you haven't. Now, that makes your belief that x religion is the "ONLY one that much science and cover every question" to be hollow and a self declaration.
I have alot of quetions like :
Why we are here alive
Why we die after some time.
Why earth is the only planet that humans can leave in and where water is like 70 % of it.
Why Ect ... lol
Since you claimed that your x religion (islam) is the only one that can answer those question, i'd like to ask you how? You might start off with answering those questions, since you said quran answered them , and then tell me how exactly are these answers the only valid answers. Just in case you have "searched a lot" about the y and z religion as well, mention why the answers offered by them aren't satisfactory to you.
Coming to your questions:
1. We are here alive because we were given birth by our parents who belong to the same species. If you are trying to ask this question with a bigger observation frame in mind, then you must be wondering about the purpose of life and the answer to that imo is that we have to either find it out (if there's an ultimate purpose) or to just find our own purpose to live.
2. We die after "some " time because just like other living creatures humans have a life span. Now that "some time" has varied from average of 40 years to 100 years, thanks to science and development. And who knows if there will be a time when this question of "why we die" will no longer make sense.
3. That is your pre assumption that earth is the ONLY habitable planet, the correct statement should be that Earth is the only habitable planet to be discovered so far. There is a like a shitload of space and matter out there still waiting to be explored. In fact, this is one of the reason why humans should not just attribute the "unknown" to a character called god in a made-up theory but actually think of finding out what could possibly be the actual answer to these questions.
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The earth has an abundance of water, but unfortunately, only a small percentage (about 0.3 percent), is even usable by humans. The other 99.7 percent is in the oceans, soils, icecaps, and floating in the atmosphere. Still, much of the 0.3 percent that is useable is unattainable."
I believe that earth might be the closest to what we call a "habitable planet" but it surely does have some limits in holding this growing population. Only if it were a "perfect"planet , we wouldn't be having just 0.3 percent of usable water and maybe a better atmosphere to work off with the increasing pollution.
I don't understand, how you can just answer every question with " My god did it" , when it's like assuming that you ( or your god) knows everything but yet you don't know about this thing called god?
How many more years will it take for people to realise that the fact that science hasn't explored everything yet should make them more curious instead of just saying god is the answer to that unknown. Sadly people are just exploiting this "fear of the unknown" and people's vulnerability to promote their version of god.
It's like you are saying "anything beyond science is god " BUT you don't realise that science is progressing and it is self correcting unlike these religions who still stick with their old tales even after they got debunked by science.I hope the unexplored will be explored and if it coincides with what any of these religious ideology has to offer, then i will happily convert to that religion.
The quran that you said saurabh that is propaganda
Not the quran. I was calling the video to be a propaganda since the title "meaning of life" was a click bait and actually redirected you to subscribe to the x religion to know the meaning of life.
i didn't find those loopholes and contradictions that you are talking theoricly about, and found alot of scientific things in quran that a man before 1400 year couldn't knew them .
You better not talk about the scientific accuracy of the abraham religions lol. That's where all these flat earthers get their inspiration from.
And just so that you know, Hindus have this book called vedas that claims to be the oldest sacred texts
so the order is like
> egyptian god tales> vedas > Torah> Biblle(new testament) >Quran So why don't you convert to Hinduism because i can BET that vedas claim a wider range of scientific predictions and yes a shitload of philosophy about life and it's purpose.
My point is, all these scriptures have been trying to write down and convey the same old tales and same old stories that they get inspired from but have NO bonafide authority that can actually vouch for their age that they claim. We just don't know how many times these were translated and what stuff was altered . And when something that is already too symbolic(metaphors etc) , is translated then the actual meaning that the writer wanted to convey will surely get lost.
> If these books (bible, quran , vedas) really had that historical and scientific accuracy, we wouldn't be hearing people working as "apologetic" " pastor" "imam" or "evangelist" .
> If these books were accurate we wouldn't require faith to believe in them.
> If these books were up to their claims and properly backed up with verifiable evidences or peer reviewed research etc then all the schools would be teaching these books and no student would have been taught that the Earth is actually an oblate spheroid.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E2s14T6x5AM
lmao, this guy. i have been watching too many of his videos and it is full of biasness.
Firstly, if an unknown object that no one has ever seen before appears magically in front of someone, that someone must be the first person to find out about it. He must be curious enough to explore it, or just the opposite, to run away being scared as it is kind of impossible to just make an unknown object appear in front of someone out of nowhere.
Secondly, this logic that creationists use is self contradicting. They say all these machines are created by humans and similarly humans have been created by an ultimate creator (god) but they fail to explain what this god thing is and why does it not need to be created if everything needs to be created? Did god create itself? then isn't it like the big bang theory BUT with a bigger loophole...that the creator would always need a superior creator and so on..we will have an endless loop.
"heaven and earth adjoined together and we clove them ascunder"
This line from quran is nowhere near to the what Big bang theory explains. Any person who thinks that this line from quran is equivalent to TBBT happening, is either ignorant of what TBBT is OR is trying to alter the literal meaning of quran to be having some metaphorical meaning so as to suit his motive, which in this case, is to prove the scientific accuracy of the quran.
Bible says "let there be light" . So that can also be interpreted literally or metaphorically (in 1000s of ways)
and can be worked out to claim that bible's scientific predictions are correct. So why don't you convert to a Christian this sunday?
Similarly, the water cycle that the quran claims to explain is nothing but some random poetic words that the con men cherry pick from different chapters and different verses to make it look like they actually explain the water cycle. I can post them here but it will make this thread too much to read. If quran writer really wanted to explain water cycle so well then why are they put in different chapters and different verses randomly? I really love this word "cherry-picking "
And did this prophet guy just said "don't wait for the atheist to reply to this one, and continue.."
Like is he training you x religion people to defend your product? why do you think these con men need to "train " you followers? I don't think religious people are sheep unless they choose to be. If you are free thinker i don't see the need to attend a brainwashing sessions. If a religious person actually CHOSE his relgion then he must have read all these verses himself and thought of all this before. Why is there a need for a true x religion follower to attend these training sessions and then hear about what they alraedy should have read from the x religion's holy book? If all this were true why do we have such people teaching people that this is true?
Why we have a brain and we can think and choose and learn...
Once again, this question of "why humans have brain"is a bit meaningless unless you are trying to overlap it with the question "why do we exist? why does everything exist? " . And answer to that may not be scientifically available but the philosophical ones might satisfy you. It is just that religions try to rebrand these philosophical answers as their x god.
PS :lol in our religion we believe that who doesn't believe in god will go to hell after death so becarefull fellas xd ,don't say i didn't warned you lol xd.
It's okay. i have heard similar warning from hindus, christians, and muslims every time they try to sell their product and fail. Hell is still an imaginary place and i'd love to go there if it is free from people who think slavery is justified as long as it is mentioned in their holy book.
i think that we exist in this life for a perpes that we should acomplish before diying.
You guys see that just live finish your time in this life then die .
What purpose? Please don't tell me it is to worship your version of god and not to live a "sinful " life because every every single religion has it's own list of sins, own dogmas, own list of things u can't wear, own thing of food we can't eat and own gods to worship.
If the purpose of all religions is peace then why can't all these religions find peace among themselves? If the actual reason of starting religions was to bring law and order then why does it cripple the law now? If the actual purpose of religions was to achieve peace and the ultimate satisfaction , then it is unfortunately lost somewhere and all that is left is a business run by your very own pasotrs and imams. "
If you want to see who controls you, try to question where you are not allowed to "
@crash
I won't even reply to that mentality. It's quite sick to belive that people would rape if there were no religions. it is sick to believe that a damn book is what stops people from raping others. Religion is not a soruce of morality. Morality is altered by the person's own rationality and instincts shaped by the society and the environment. I can't trust a person , who thinks his religious book is his source of morality.
And to be honest, you all are fake believers as you don't do as your book instructs you to. You all just cherry pick the verses that suit your motive and ignore the rest. Don't believe me? make a list yourself.
Guys , u dont know anything abut Islam but as a muslim ik abut the other religions and i compared it with my religion and i found that the Islam is the true religion of God and i have many proods for ex. what mentioned in the vid. besides i have to believe in other realk books of bible and the others. im not going to talk very much i will make it shortcut as i can.
Mention all the books of vedas. tell me the full name of Lord buddha. Did you read about egyptian gods? Did you read about Egyptian tales that were written LONG before than bible or quran but still have concepts of Hell, heaven, virgin birth, creationism and all the other shit that one religion copied from another? Did you?
If you're using google, know that you cheated yourself.