- Added jetpacks for civilians
- They won't be permanent, just for the holiday season
I like jetpacks, but I am afraid it would be too easy for VIP players to camp with sniper rifle on places that are unreachable from the ground; and such campers cannot be countered without an aircraft or another sniper rifle.
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- Added jetpacks for civilians
- They won't be permanent, just for the holiday season
I like jetpacks, but I am afraid it would be too easy for VIP players to camp with sniper rifle on places that are unreachable from the ground; and such campers cannot be countered without an aircraft or another sniper rifle.
This is exactly what is happening. Now it's possible to reach any rooftop in a matter of seconds. Not a big deal for non VIPs, but very interesting for snipers. If you aren't a VIP and you're on the ground, all you can do is run. If you are a VIP, you can snipe back, waste your time and watch the jetpacker escape very easily when he has low hp. I really hope jetpacks are removed soon.[/list]
- Added jetpacks for civilians
- They won't be permanent, just for the holiday season
I like jetpacks, but I am afraid it would be too easy for VIP players to camp with sniper rifle on places that are unreachable from the ground; and such campers cannot be countered without an aircraft or another sniper rifle.
This is exactly what is happening. Now it's possible to reach any rooftop in a matter of seconds. Not a big deal for non VIPs, but very interesting for snipers. If you aren't a VIP and you're on the ground, all you can do is run. If you are a VIP, you can snipe back, waste your time and watch the jetpacker escape very easily when he has low hp. I really hope jetpacks are removed soon.
You just want them removed bcs now u cant chase regular civs as terror i know that :D
- Added jetpacks for civilians
- They won't be permanent, just for the holiday season
I like jetpacks, but I am afraid it would be too easy for VIP players to camp with sniper rifle on places that are unreachable from the ground; and such campers cannot be countered without an aircraft or another sniper rifle.
This is exactly what is happening. Now it's possible to reach any rooftop in a matter of seconds. Not a big deal for non VIPs, but very interesting for snipers. If you aren't a VIP and you're on the ground, all you can do is run. If you are a VIP, you can snipe back, waste your time and watch the jetpacker escape very easily when he has low hp. I really hope jetpacks are removed soon.[/list]
You just want them removed bcs now u cant chase regular civs as terror i know that :D
I mean that u dont want it removed bcs its ruining the balance betwen vips and non vips but bcs u feel less powerful with combat shotgun and nrg now :DYou just want them removed bcs now u cant chase regular civs as terror i know that :D
And according to you civilians shouldn't be chaseable or what's your point exactly?
I mean that u dont want it removed bcs its ruining the balance betwen vips and non vips but bcs u feel less powerful with combat shotgun and nrg now :DYou just want them removed bcs now u cant chase regular civs as terror i know that :D
And according to you civilians shouldn't be chaseable or what's your point exactly?
I mean that u dont want it removed bcs its ruining the balance betwen vips and non vips but bcs u feel less powerful with combat shotgun and nrg now :DYou just want them removed bcs now u cant chase regular civs as terror i know that :D
And according to you civilians shouldn't be chaseable or what's your point exactly?
Well u just clarified what i said if u havent noticed its not bcs u care about the non vips its all about youI mean that u dont want it removed bcs its ruining the balance betwen vips and non vips but bcs u feel less powerful with combat shotgun and nrg now :DYou just want them removed bcs now u cant chase regular civs as terror i know that :D
And according to you civilians shouldn't be chaseable or what's your point exactly?
Since it's not possible to kill a roof hopper if he doesn't want to get killed. Obviously you have no idea about this because you have peace with everyone using jetpacks and snipers, but I recommend you to check it out one day.
This is exactly what is happening. Now it's possible to reach any rooftop in a matter of seconds. Not a big deal for non VIPs, but very interesting for snipers. If you aren't a VIP and you're on the ground, all you can do is run. If you are a VIP, you can snipe back, waste your time and watch the jetpacker escape very easily when he has low hp. I really hope jetpacks are removed soon.[/list]
Well u just clarified what i said if u havent noticed its not bcs u care about the non vips its all about you. There is always a chance, bcs it looks like u have no idea how hard is to kill 2 terros with nrg and combat shotgun as civ.You just want them removed bcs now u cant chase regular civs as terror i know that :DI mean that u dont want it removed bcs its ruining the balance betwen vips and non vips but bcs u feel less powerful with combat shotgun and nrg now :D
Since it's not possible to kill a roof hopper if he doesn't want to get killed. Obviously you have no idea about this because you have peace with everyone using jetpacks and snipers, but I recommend you to check it out one day.
Well u just clarified what i said if u havent noticed its not bcs u care about the non vips its all about youI mean that u dont want it removed bcs its ruining the balance betwen vips and non vips but bcs u feel less powerful with combat shotgun and nrg now :DYou just want them removed bcs now u cant chase regular civs as terror i know that :D
And according to you civilians shouldn't be chaseable or what's your point exactly?
Since it's not possible to kill a roof hopper if he doesn't want to get killed. Obviously you have no idea about this because you have peace with everyone using jetpacks and snipers, but I recommend you to check it out one day.
This is exactly what is happening. Now it's possible to reach any rooftop in a matter of seconds. Not a big deal for non VIPs, but very interesting for snipers. If you aren't a VIP and you're on the ground, all you can do is run. If you are a VIP, you can snipe back, waste your time and watch the jetpacker escape very easily when he has low hp. I really hope jetpacks are removed soon.[/list]
- Added jetpacks for civilians
- They won't be permanent, just for the holiday season
- Added jetpacks for civilians
- They won't be permanent, just for the holiday season
I like jetpacks, but I am afraid it would be too easy for VIP players to camp with sniper rifle on places that are unreachable from the ground; and such campers cannot be countered without an aircraft or another sniper rifle.
This is exactly what is happening. Now it's possible to reach any rooftop in a matter of seconds. Not a big deal for non VIPs, but very interesting for snipers. If you aren't a VIP and you're on the ground, all you can do is run. If you are a VIP, you can snipe back, waste your time and watch the jetpacker escape very easily when he has low hp. I really hope jetpacks are removed soon.[/list]
I like jetpacks, but I am afraid it would be too easy for VIP players to camp with sniper rifle on places that are unreachable from the ground; and such campers cannot be countered without an aircraft or another sniper rifle.
This is exactly what is happening. Now it's possible to reach any rooftop in a matter of seconds. Not a big deal for non VIPs, but very interesting for snipers. If you aren't a VIP and you're on the ground, all you can do is run. If you are a VIP, you can snipe back, waste your time and watch the jetpacker escape very easily when he has low hp. I really hope jetpacks are removed soon.
Nope Cobra let the game fun for a few weeks at least and then back to that kill the president game :PI like jetpacks, but I am afraid it would be too easy for VIP players to camp with sniper rifle on places that are unreachable from the ground; and such campers cannot be countered without an aircraft or another sniper rifle.
This is exactly what is happening. Now it's possible to reach any rooftop in a matter of seconds. Not a big deal for nonVIPs, but very interesting for snipers. If you aren't a VIP and you're on the ground, all you can do is run. If you are a VIP, you can snipe back, waste your time and watch the jetpacker escape very easily when he has low hp. I really hope jetpacks are removed soon.
Well that's a good point, because I see VIP's getting huge advantage with the Jetpack + Sniper on the rooftops and easily escaping way now and even I can use VIP weapons, it's hard to get them. I've seen the some VIPs camping on rooftops near to president spawn and sniping them, when president goes away, they can chase easily.
Solution for this: When the player takes jetpack for once, maybe disable to use of rifle and sniper for that player to the his next death.
PS : This is a holiday ubdate only will be removed after 25th Dec .
Solution for this: When the player takes jetpack for once, maybe disable to use of rifle and sniper for that player to the his next death.
I suggest removing the sniper ability for people that use jetpacks (until next respawn like Cobra said) and only allow /rifle (which is fair for everyone since it's now in /holiday cmd).
I really hope vip`s infinite nitro, chainsaw, sniper rifle and fast skins are removed soon.[/list]
Nope Cobra let the game fun for a few weeks at least and then back to that kill the president game :P
Solution for this: When the player takes jetpack for once, maybe disable to use of rifle and sniper for that player to the his next death.
PS : This is a holiday ubdate only will be removed after 25th Dec .
Let's just leave it as it is 8)+1
Let's just leave it as it is 8)+1
Let's just leave it as it is 8)+1
Let's just leave it as it is 8)+1
Let's just leave it as it is 8)+1
Let's just leave it as it is 8)+1
The majority of the community wants jetpacks. And no let's not do what cobra suggested. Just leave it as it is 8)Let's just leave it as it is 8)+1
This is exactly what is happening. Now it's possible to reach any rooftop in a matter of seconds. Not a big deal for non VIPs, but very interesting for snipers. If you aren't a VIP and you're on the ground, all you can do is run. If you are a VIP, you can snipe back, waste your time and watch the jetpacker escape very easily when he has low hp. I really hope jetpacks are removed soon.[/list]
This is exactly what is happening. Now it's possible to reach any rooftop in a matter of seconds. Not a big deal for non VIPs, but very interesting for snipers. If you aren't a VIP and you're on the ground, all you can do is run. If you are a VIP, you can snipe back, waste your time and watch the jetpacker escape very easily when he has low hp. I really hope jetpacks are removed soon.[/list]
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Just because you dont know how to counter it doesnt mean it should be removed.
I assume you're saying this because you tried it yourself and you could counter it. Now I'm wondering how you tried it if you have peace with everyone using sniper + jetpack.
And I'm saying this not only to you but in general... have you guys even fought someone with sniper + jetpack yet? lol
I assume you're saying this because you tried it yourself and you could counter it. Now I'm wondering how you tried it if you have peace with everyone using sniper + jetpack.
And I'm saying this not only to you but in general... have you guys even fought someone with sniper + jetpack yet? lol
I don't know why you guys had to make such a big deal out of this. It's clearly only for the holidays feature. You can live with 20 days of having jetpacks, can't you? Lol...
You can live with 20 days of having jetpacks, can't you? Lol...
Are you just groping in the dark or you actually checked out how bearable it is to play like that?
I'm groping in the dark
I really hope vip`s infinite nitro, chainsaw, sniper rifle and fast skins are removed soon.[/list]
The majority of the community wants jetpacks. And no let's not do what cobra suggested. Just leave it as it is 8)Let's just leave it as it is 8)+1
Alright. I recommend you to turn the lights on before coming to conclusions.
Well guys, it's not going to stay forever, let it be like as many people said already
Alright. I recommend you to turn the lights on before coming to conclusions.
That doesn't even make sense, but I recommend you to play for fun every once in a while.
Well guys, it's not going to stay forever, let it be like as many people said already
"It doesn't make sense" is the arrogant way to say "I don't understand it".
Let's just leave it as it is 8)
Yes, and also I kill innocent puppies for witchcraft purposes. You forgot that one.
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Well, guys and girl, I think the debate should be focused on if we want it JUST for the holidays or forever. Now it's a lot of fun, not just for VIPs but also for regular players (who know where the jetpacks spawn) with no sniper rifles. It gives the game a different colour, the "strategy" of camping (which I kind of hate) is no longer possible with a civ with the ability of reaching some places easily, and still, the civs are not as harmful as other classes.
I would like it to stay after holidays.
This is so embarrassing to read....That's what I must agree upon. Whatever me or Mia say recently, it's like a red rag to a bull for our community. I wonder what exactly did we do to offend it so much, because it hasn't always been like this, but, to be honest, I don't care that much. I'm just curious if any controversial issue can be adequately discussed here, without useless spam and unrelated emotions.
A very good way to get the thread back on topic. I'm not a fan of keeping it after the holidays right now. It would make stunting and using helicopters to get to hard-to-get places like rooftops and KACC military fuels much less viable and effective. Why stunt as the president if 15 seconds later a civ is gonna be there trying to chainsaw you or throw molotovs at you? It makes it much harder to stay away from enemies.I kinda agree with that too, but, as for me, it's not that dangerous and/or overpowered, because the thrower is always in range of all of the weapons. Securities just need to be careful and kill any non-friendly character who approaches presi.
Let's give VIPs miniguns for a day. I wonder if any newbie or non-VIP remains. I wouldn't, as I would treat it as clear and obvious disregard towards new players in favour of VIPs, of ones who pay.
I hope Jonne and the administration would listen and agree, and sniper rifles would be disabled for any VIP who picks up a jetpack until his next respawn.
People always have different opinions, good or bad or right/wrong, we should at least respect other people's opinions and try to be understandable as much as possible without shaming or flamming others just because of their point of view towards a matter. Obviously nothing gonna change with this holiday update which is temporary, but people's opinions are to be respected no matter what. Put aside their way of delivering it, Altus and Mia actually make a good point here which I totally agree with. You might find it bitching/whinning but come on people.. Arguments are good :) and opinions matter.
Hopefully one day, we can agree and disagree with respect. The server is being shaped by the players who are playing it right now, for better or worse, learn to handle an opinion. An actual example: Plan B.
Can't think of more to type, my message is crystal clear or at least I hope so, correct me if I'm wrong about what I just typed. Have a good day people
I hardly think that minigun and jetpack-sniper combo are the same, Altus.Of course I reduced it to absurdum, by that I just wanted to state that the time doesn't matter when we're talking about mere possibility of existance of imbalanced strategies on our server. I understand the opinion that overpowered things for VIPs are fine if they are temporary, but I cannot agree with that. Just put yourself of non-VIPs place, and you'll understand. Should they cease playing for these 3 weeks?..
And as far as I got it, everyone has access to jetpacks, so you can kinda run away at any time.Only civilians have access to it. The bug when you could pick up your jetpack after reclassing is hopefully fixed.
I don't see how this will affect your experience permanently.Oh, Spectre... I have stated that twice already. But I don't mind repeating if I am replied nicely.
This is an interesting suggestion, but is it really worth the hassle? (not a rhetorical question, I'd like to know) To put that kind of effort for something that's not even going to be permanent?That should be very easy. In the very basic case you need an array of flags for each player. The flag is set when a player picks up a jetpack, and dropped when he respawns or disconnects. If the flag is being set, you don't receive a sniper rifle when using /sniper or /vipme. Instead you can be given country rifle (for example).
I understand the concerns, but from what I've seen, most of the non-VIPs are asking "Where are the jetpacks", to use them, more than complaining about it being overpowered. I think most of them are alright with it and enjoy having the jetpacks around for a limited amount of time. But anyway, I added a poll to see what the majority thinks here. The poll will run for 5 days, after that we'll see what we'll do.
I understand the concerns, but from what I've seen, most of the non-VIPs are asking "Where are the jetpacks", to use them, more than complaining about it being overpowered. I think most of them are alright with it and enjoy having the jetpacks around for a limited amount of time. But anyway, I added a poll to see what the majority thinks here. The poll will run for 5 days, after that we'll see what we'll do.
Poll's current result is the answer for everyone taking part in the argument. Mia and Altus (*cough*)
I see a lot of articles here and i am not gonna waste my time to read the same thing written in the first page. Anyways, hope some people here stop with essays and summarize it to a small paragraph.
Poll's current result is the answer for everyone taking part in the argument. Mia and Altus (*cough*)
Yes, you definitely didn't waste your time reading what I said. I won't waste mine explaining you why what you just said makes no sense at this moment, you can just scroll up and waste some of your time.I see a lot of articles here and i am not gonna waste my time to read the same thing written in the first page. Anyways, hope some people here stop with essays and summarize it to a small paragraph.
http://jonne.be/forum/index.php?topic=555.msg3812#msg3812
Hahaha.
my poor brain can't take all these long posts. Please include a tl:dr version or work on your summary skills.Very Important Players of Protect the President Server Plan B do not like that plebs (lvl 0 and lvl 1) are not paid a single penny and still can use jetpacks.
Unfortunately, you can't just decide for something if other people doesn't think the same way as you. That's why I asked to add a poll here to know the opinion of other people. You just don't decide what to add and what to remove if the odds are not in your favor. Yes, you have a freedom to express your thoughts about this but it does not mean that you can get everything what you want. I understand what you're fighting for, but the majority have spoken. So please, just listen to the majority because they know what is better for this community.
PTP is for the community, every decisions made are for the sake of the majority, not for the satisfaction of other small groups.
my poor brain can't take all these long posts. Please include a tl:dr version or work on your summary skills.Very Important Players of Protect the President Server Plan B do not like that plebs (lvl 0 and lvl 1) are not paid a single penny and still can use jetpacks.
PTP is for the community, every decisions made are for the sake of the majority, not for the satisfaction of other small groups.I don't think what you see on the forums is necessarily the majority. I'm not taking a stand on the jetpacks, but many topics like this end up being flooded by a small number of people who are mostly VIPs- definitely not the majority.
I see a lot of articles here and i am not gonna waste my time to read the same thing written in the first page. Anyways, hope some people here stop with essays and summarize it to a small paragraph.tl;dr -1
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The poll added to this topic shows that the majority of the community wants to keep the jetpacks, so I think that discussions about this aren't necessary anymore :D
The poll added to this topic shows that the majority of the community wants to keep the jetpacks, so I think that discussions about this aren't necessary anymore :D
Now we should vote if we also want it after the holidays :D
Who agrees with me?
The poll added to this topic shows that the majority of the community wants to keep the jetpacks, so I think that discussions about this aren't necessary anymore :D
Now we should vote if we also want it after the holidays :D
Who agrees with me?
No pls :XThe poll added to this topic shows that the majority of the community wants to keep the jetpacks, so I think that discussions about this aren't necessary anymore :D
Now we should vote if we also want it after the holidays :D
Who agrees with me?
Now we should vote if we also want it after the holidays :DIf the administration listens and removes imbalanced jetpack + sniper combo, I agree, +1. I do enjoy flying around.
Who agrees with me?
If any of this will happen, it would be possible to keep jetpacks even after holidays.IMHO, that's a nice idea too. Securities often have troubles reaching the president, probably adding a jetpack for them on the spawn would help? Of course, if sniper rifle would be disabled for security jetpack users as well.
Some nice updates, coolio :)That made me smile. :) Positive thinking is something that we all definitely lack.