Plan B
General => Suggestions => Closed => Topic started by: MegaPilot on November 12, 2017, 11:38:21 am
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You guys were all against the president using a Rustler, well, I want the Shamal removed from the game.
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Because a president standing on a Shamal is next to impossible to kill. Even the biggest noob can survive with a half decent pilot. I consider myself one of the best pilots in the game and I nearly always lose to Shamals 'cause of the speed.
You literally can't do anything but trying to intercept at the boundaries. But even then it's next to impossible to effectively shoot down a Shamal.
If you don't want to delete the Shamal, fine, but it's clear as day that a president should not be standing on a vehicle where it's impossible to kill him. You can also make it impossible for police/security/vice president/president to enter a Shamal.
I literally can't see any reason why the president should be allowed to do this, it's not fair that he can get onto a vehicle where noone can kill him. Only possibility is 2 pros teaming up while 1 snipes him, but even then, you haven't calculated a little big of lagg where your teammate falls off.
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It's not that hard imo.
I'm able to shoot it down every time the president is standing on a shamal.
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It's not that hard imo.
I'm able to shoot it down every time the president is standing on a shamal.
The Shamal is much faster, it's like the hardest thing to shoot down with a Rustler lol. Only a dumb pilot gets shot down with a Shamal. You literally just have to fly a little bit unpredictable(not flying near boundaries all the time for example) and you're impossible to shoot down.
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you haven't calculated a little big of lagg where your teammate President falls off.
If a player can fall off a damn rustler why can't another fall off a faster plane whose fuselage has smaller width to stand upon?
Standing on Wings would already limit the wing based movement and rudder movement is not as sharp than combining it with rotations.
Even then 6-7 Rustlers can take care off a single Shamal in air.
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It's not a good idea. We can't just give President land vehicles to survive as you all know it is hard to survive from Terrors when they outnumber the Securities and Polices. Moreover, we can't just remove Shamal just because it makes difficult to kill the President. Some players enjoys riding Shamal or doing fun with their friends. -1
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you haven't calculated a little big of lagg where your teammate President falls off.
Even then 6-7 Rustlers can take care off a single Shamal in air.
They can't.
6 Prius cars can't take down a Ferrari. It doesn't work that way. The Ferrari just speeds away. This is the same thing.
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6 Prius cars can't take down a Ferrari. It doesn't work that way. The Ferrari just speeds away. This is the same thing.
planes dont have track or road, it's depend bud and salmaan is not too much faster than rustler.
If killing President will be easy so there will be no enjoyment, and kids plays game on easy or newbie lvl, and we aren't kids that cry to decrease the game hardness, it's intresting to kill him while he is on salmaan, and there is limited area can't go far, instead of complaining i would find a way to kill him, so -1
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I really wonder why I even bother to suggest something here. There is zero logic on this forum. Rustler for president? No way, that's too hard! (It's not) President standing on Shamal? Why not, easy peasy! (It's not)
I really have the feeling that every logic suggestion just gets a "-1" just for being something you haven't thought of. I honestly don't think that anyone who is against my idea has ever tried to take down a Shamal while flying a Rustler.
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No! -1! Civilians demand shamal for private air travel! It's a symbol for richlife!
But I also agree with what you said.
That plane got fast ass! B-)
How about not letting secs fly shamal?
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Well i agree with the shamal being better than rustler in terms of speed but it's not too hard to take down when you have a teammate with you on your rustler. You can take it down by making contacts on the world bounds with M4(rustler) and ak-47 or with sniper.
Removing that will make it even hard for president.
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Sorry, but all of us won't have the same opinions as yourself. You gotta respect that.
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Sorry, but all of us won't have the same opinions as yourself. You gotta respect that.
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Sorry, but all of us won't have the same opinions as yourself. You gotta respect that.
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You know what all the people claiming that it can be taken down with a Rustler have in common? They can't take me down with a Rustler. So either I'm just a very shitty pilot ingame who doesn't know what he's talking about or some people just don't know what they're talking about.
Yes, you can meet with the plane at the boundaries. But I have hunted a Shamal 2 times for over 10 minutes without shooting it down. The boundary hunting is not enough, trust me.
I'm almost certain that this thing has never been tested. It baffles my mind that you guys are not okay with the president flying a Rustler, but you are okay with him gliding on a vehicle that's too fast(except NSA) for any other plane to catch up too. Try explaining me this.
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+1.
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I really wonder why I even bother to suggest something here. There is zero logic on this forum. Rustler for president? No way, that's too hard! (It's not) President standing on Shamal? Why not, easy peasy! (It's not)
I'm almost certain that this thing has never been tested. It baffles my mind that you guys are not okay with the president flying a Rustler, but you are okay with him gliding on a vehicle that's too fast(except NSA) for any other plane to catch up too. Try explaining me this.
Yeah, I'm also kind of amazed that everyone apparently loves the Shamal because it is harder to deal with.
By coincidence, I had just quit the game after making a video on this when I saw your topic. I finally uploaded it- I've got an explanation of my strategy in the video description:
Shooting down a Shamal (https://youtu.be/WINm-P_xMpg)[with a rustler]
Another video:
Surfing terrorists shooting down a Shamal (https://youtu.be/StMgoe4sZ0g)
Long story, short, it's definitely possible and usually easy- you're probably just using a bad strategy or not compensating for lag. Yes, they could theoretically fly really quickly at the highest altitude, but they'd be making themselves even more vulnerable (and easier to ram if you get your own Shamal). I've never had one with a surfer that I couldn't shoot down alone that I can think of, and if there's one I'm not remembering, good game to the pilot.
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+1. The Shamal is extremely fast and can go up pretty high. The rustler, in comparison, is not as fast and cannot go up that high. I always thought it was unfair for the Pres to have a Shamal. I'm always too slow to catch up to him in the Rustler, and whenever I do get close to him, he's gone at the blink of an eye.
Not sure why this is an unpopular suggestion. It's really good and could further balance in PTP, a server that I think is extremely unbalanced.
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Use Hydra or learn to use another mechanic
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yeah agree Shamal is kinda fast and it fly High too so +1
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No need to vote twice ;)
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+1. The Shamal is extremely fast and can go up pretty high. The rustler, in comparison, is not as fast and cannot go up that high. I always thought it was unfair for the Pres to have a Shamal. I'm always too slow to catch up to him in the Rustler, and whenever I do get close to him, he's gone at the blink of an eye.
Not sure why this is an unpopular suggestion. It's really good and could further balance in PTP, a server that I think is extremely unbalanced.
You're incorrect. All aircraft in GTA can sustain equally high flight. If you're having trouble shooting down Shamals with passengers, then see my video on it. Shamals without passengers can actually be difficult, but Presidents can only surf them, so it's much easier.
yeah agree Shamal is kinda fast and it fly High too so +1
The fact that it's got a lot of power is about the only advantage it has. It sucks at turning and takes forever to take off. Flying it with a surfer is difficult to do safely. If you're right behind the President anyway, it's easy to stop him from getting very far off the ground with it.
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I can take down a shamal but for like 2-4 minutes. There is a technique tho. But yeah, most of us are having difficulty of taking it down.
I suggest someone must call me if president is in shamal. I will take him down. I can even ban him....
...just kidding.
But i am not so sure if we must remove the shamal completely. We should not eliminate stategies that is somehow possible to take it down (by rustler). Also, only few people knows this shamal strategy. Besides, when president is in shamal you will force yourself to use rustler and develop your flying skills, and you will no longer be stuck at shooting with *cough* war freaks *cough* everyday.
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Na its good for allahu akbars :P
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I can take down a shamal but for like 2-4 minutes. There is a technique tho. But yeah, most of us are having difficulty of taking it down.
I suggest someone must call me if president is in shamal. I will take him down. I can even ban him....
...just kidding.
But i am not so sure if we must remove the shamal completely. We should not eliminate stategies that is somehow possible to take it down (by rustler). Also, only few people knows this shamal strategy. Besides, when president is in shamal you will force yourself to use rustler and develop your flying skills, and you will no longer be stuck at shooting with *cough* war freaks *cough* everyday.
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I think most people could pretty easily get to the point where they could shoot it down in 2-4 minutes if this happened often enough (which it doesn't, which gives even less of a reason to remove Shamals).
The problem is, for some inexplicable reason people are okay with taking 10 minutes to kill someone on the ground or in Area 69 and likely not succeeding, but once they have to spend a few minutes in the air to kill someone, even though their target is far more likely to die, they consider it a travesty.
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Sometimes president need to survive ;D
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The shamal won't be removed.