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General => Suggestions => Closed => Topic started by: Judah on December 21, 2017, 03:03:55 pm

Title: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Judah on December 21, 2017, 03:03:55 pm
I noticed that people comment on suggestions with "+1" or "-1" without saying why they like it or don't, and how it could be improved or why it won't work. Mostly this happens because of post farming or being biased towards the author.

This should not be allowed as it is unfair and annoying.
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: [RD]MecHaNiC on December 21, 2017, 03:34:26 pm
Oh , comeon! Stop making PTP like a jail where you cant do things on your will.

People will write what they want to .

You (anyone) are noone to decide or pressurize them what they should write and what they shouldn't.
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Vishwas on December 21, 2017, 04:14:12 pm
I don't think everyone here has a habit to write long paragraphs. Some don't even read it all (including me)
Also, not all suggestions actually require a opinion.
Some suggestions like "adding a vortex?" just require  those two small characters..
+1 means they agree on that suggestion
-1 they do not want this..

This should rather be a request to people than a rule...
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: M a k a v e l i . on December 21, 2017, 04:16:28 pm
"post farming" m8? u've to be a complete retard even to think that way. this is called gaming forums, and it's purpose is exactly that, to post bullshit related to the bullshit game that we are discussing/playing.

in the past we used to write like Yes or No, before "+/-1" became a thing, sometimes i see it as the easiest way to express myself, so what's wrong with it. i like to read/share some constructive replies from time to time but when there's no need for those, imo it's better just to keep it simple. not to mention how most of the suggestions are pointless, like this one, therefore writing a long explanation such as this, is a waste.



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Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Luka on December 21, 2017, 04:36:15 pm
"post farming" m8? u've to be a complete retard even to think that way. this is called gaming forums, and it's purpose is exactly that, to post bullshit related to the bullshit game that we are discussing/playing.

in the past we used to write like Yes or No, before "+/-1" became a thing, sometimes i see it as the easiest way to express myself, so what's wrong with it. i like to read/share some constructive replies from time to time but when there's no need for those, imo it's better just to keep it simple. not to mention how most of the suggestions are pointless, like this one, therefore writing a long explanation such as this, is a waste.
PWNT!  8)


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Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Panal_Abeja on December 21, 2017, 04:43:29 pm
-1
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Miau on December 21, 2017, 04:49:32 pm
-1





Kidding ;D I don't think replies without any reasoning are really taken into account when it comes to accepting or denying a suggestion. From what I've seen, the final decision is usually up to Jonne's criteria, which is partially made of the arguments he reads in the suggestion topic.
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: COBRA on December 21, 2017, 05:11:02 pm
-1..
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Shawkhawk did nothing wrong! on December 21, 2017, 05:26:02 pm
Not everyone is a good critique.
When you review anything they ask you to rate it by stars, and written review is optional (very bad example hahaha :P)
people Should mention the reason behind their vote but dont make it compulsory.
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Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Spectre on December 21, 2017, 07:15:41 pm
Dude...


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Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Hito on December 21, 2017, 07:33:01 pm
-1  >:(
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Nikola on December 21, 2017, 08:15:34 pm
I do believe that argumentation is useful when expressing your opinion about a suggestion, but that should never be dictated by any rules or made obligatory in any way. Everyone should be able to state their thoughts in a way they feel most comfortable with (if it's not against the existing forum rules, of course).
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Satvik on December 21, 2017, 08:42:05 pm
-1
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Crash on December 21, 2017, 11:28:52 pm
Minus one
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Pranesh on December 21, 2017, 11:36:36 pm
Minus one

Innovative.
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Mive on December 21, 2017, 11:59:27 pm
Come on m8 don't expect everyone to have a percise reply. People could express themselves however they want. Just as long it's accurate. Thx -1
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Punch. on December 22, 2017, 03:24:45 am
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Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Deadman on December 22, 2017, 03:57:31 am
-1





Kidding ;D I don't think replies without any reasoning are really taken into account when it comes to accepting or denying a suggestion. From what I've seen, the final decision is usually up to Jonne's criteria, which is partially made of the arguments he reads in the suggestion topic.
Agreed!
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: YoMama on December 22, 2017, 11:19:30 am
I noticed that people comment on suggestions with "+1" or "-1" without saying why they like it or don't, and how it could be improved or why it won't work. Mostly this happens because of post farming or being biased towards the author.

This should not be allowed as it is unfair and annoying.
I understand your frustration- I agree that it's not particularly constructive to just reply yes or no when the suggestion is much more complicated than that, but in the end, those comments don't really mean much. I wouldn't say it's because of post farming (which also doesn't really matter) or being biased towards the author. I would say its because they simply don't have anything else to say, or worst case, they could write their reasons but might think that they would be judged, so they don't.

While it is annoying at times, I'm not sure it needs to be disallowed.
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Madman on December 22, 2017, 11:32:33 am
God doesn't exist here too judah
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Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Sumit on December 22, 2017, 11:49:33 am
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People post their comments on suggestions the way they feel good. Its not good to make a rule over here to disallow comments on suggestion without proper reasoninng. Some of them post with reasons and some of them dont , its just like agree(+) or disagree(-). I dont think its necessary here.
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Storm on December 22, 2017, 12:56:12 pm
+1 / -1 is better than creating a three-paragraph essay
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Jessy on December 22, 2017, 01:55:51 pm
-1
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Darwin on December 22, 2017, 02:24:30 pm
Why can't we use +1 or -1 dude it literally makes our life so easier. Instead of writing long paragraphs we simple use the +1 or -1


So its a definite no from me
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: PraY on December 22, 2017, 05:27:37 pm
2+2-5 so -1 ;D

Haha jk, I think that saying -1 or +1 is way better than writing an arguement or giving your opinion, it facilates the vote on, and everyone is free to write what he wants
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Deadman on December 22, 2017, 06:03:30 pm
We argue when we need to explain particular and most important cases which gets attention of someone. Just take an example of /duty of securities.
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: SoLoD on December 23, 2017, 10:58:13 am
Very timely remark. Good to see some new face with a brain on this server.
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Drama on December 23, 2017, 01:47:22 pm
-1
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Barto on December 23, 2017, 08:11:30 pm
-1

Reason why the +1 and -1 system is used is simple, Time. Not everybody has the time to write an essay, like I have done sometimes. Most of the times I read the new topics in the train on my phone and I don't want to write an essay on my phone, because it simple takes too much time.
Title: Re: Proper reasoning on suggestions.
Post by: Jonne on April 01, 2018, 01:10:01 pm
The reason we don't remove these posts in the suggestion board, is so we can see how the community feels about a suggestion. If we disallow these kind of posts, then a lot less people will give their opinion on it, and we only get to see a small part of how the community feels about something. Sometimes it's not really necessary to say any more than +1 or -1 either. Also, some people might have issues with the language to properly explain themselves. So, we'll keep allowing these kind of posts, so as many people as possible can give their opinion on a suggestion.