Author Topic: Fundamental Problem  (Read 12585 times)

Offline Mark[KTP]

  • VIP
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 96
  • Rank: Unknown
  • Score: Unknown
  • PTP Player since 2008
Fundamental Problem
« on: May 14, 2017, 11:05:33 am »
Hi guys, I'm not a habit writer on this Forum, even tho I wanna bring up to light a fundamental problem that you might agree with.
The thing that I can see happening is this fake/boring alliances between clans where nobody shoot each others; the question is, is this really funny for a TDM Server where the goal is exactly kill the opposite team? I answered this question my self last year and the answer was the creation of KTP.
To me would be nice if Jonne can develop an autobalancing system, maybe where the VIPs can't choose any class but they are forced to choose based on the avalaibility of the class.

Offline SoLoD

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 563
  • Rank: Unknown
  • Score: Unknown
    • Youtube stunting channel
Re: Fundamental Problem
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2017, 11:52:05 am »
the answer was the creation of KTP.
Thx for that. But for me it is sad that it was active for only 2 weeks or so  :-\
You know the nice thing about the Bronx Zoo, Charlie? There's bars between you and the monkeys.

Offline Spectre

  • VIP
  • Hero Member
  • **
  • Posts: 622
  • Rank: Unknown
  • Score: Unknown
  • Grossly incandescent
    • Team: No Terrorism
Re: Fundamental Problem
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2017, 12:45:16 pm »
To me would be nice if Jonne can develop an autobalancing system, maybe where the VIPs can't choose any class but they are forced to choose based on the avalaibility of the class.

And then VIP would essentially lose one of its biggest advantages, for which they paid. GG

Offline SoLoD

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 563
  • Rank: Unknown
  • Score: Unknown
    • Youtube stunting channel
Re: Fundamental Problem
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2017, 12:54:46 pm »
And then VIP would essentially lose one of its biggest advantages, for which they paid. GG
But wait, they are not paying to get "biggest advantages", they are "donating" to keep server alive and support altruism of ptp`s staff.
You know the nice thing about the Bronx Zoo, Charlie? There's bars between you and the monkeys.

Offline Faro0s

  • VIP
  • Hero Member
  • **
  • Posts: 1113
  • Rank: Road Dawg
  • Score: 22227
  • Sniper aimbotter. -PluG
Re: Fundamental Problem
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2017, 01:03:03 pm »
Your idea makes sense, PTP is based on the gamemode Team Deathmatch. But that doesn't mean that there would no alliances between the teams, alliance is a part of TDM, it will be like a combination of two or more teams against another two or more teams or a single team, they all come under TDM.

Since 2010.
• Reason for the report (Go into more detail about what they did):I killed ahmed and he tried to accuse me for killing him

Offline Finisher

  • VIP
  • Hero Member
  • **
  • Posts: 1034
  • Rank: Jacker
  • Score: 45472
  • Jerusalemite
Re: Fundamental Problem
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2017, 01:05:56 pm »
#FreeMark #KTPsucks

Don't abide by shitty alliances or clan rules. Your mates are your teammates, the rest are enemies. Find a partner who shares the exact point of view and play! :)

#Porn2Rape #TounRapesAll #FuckYouUp #OneVsAll #2ndArmor
« Last Edit: May 14, 2017, 01:07:52 pm by Finisha. »

Offline Hito

  • VIP
  • Hero Member
  • **
  • Posts: 762
  • Rank: Homeboy
  • Score: 18865
Re: Fundamental Problem
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2017, 01:14:35 pm »
#allVSall

Offline Faro0s

  • VIP
  • Hero Member
  • **
  • Posts: 1113
  • Rank: Road Dawg
  • Score: 22227
  • Sniper aimbotter. -PluG
Re: Fundamental Problem
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2017, 01:21:11 pm »

Since 2010.
• Reason for the report (Go into more detail about what they did):I killed ahmed and he tried to accuse me for killing him

Offline COBRA

  • PTP Member since 2006
  • VIP
  • Hero Member
  • **
  • Posts: 1752
  • Rank: Unknown
  • Score: Unknown
  • PPLV Clan Founder
    • PPLV WebPage
Re: Fundamental Problem
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2017, 02:47:43 pm »
I understand your problem, you have been getting rekt hard for last days and you create this topic now :D

But let me say that; we can't trust enemies in PTP. So we make allies to gang bang them since they act the badass and ganging up against unbalanced numbers against us.


●  PPLV Website - PPLV Clan Topic  ●

Nostalgia..

Offline Mark[KTP]

  • VIP
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 96
  • Rank: Unknown
  • Score: Unknown
  • PTP Player since 2008
Re: Fundamental Problem
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2017, 02:52:09 pm »
I understand your problem, you have been getting rekt hard for last days and you create this topic now :D

But let me say that; we can't trust enemies in PTP. So we make allies to gang bang them since they act the badass and ganging up against unbalanced numbers against us.
You speak about "rekted" when maybe you saw me online 2 times in the last months. Who are exactly these enemies the noobs with 5 hours of PTP experience? And they play togheter all the time I bet. You team up with other clans because don't have the energy/gut to fight each others, so teaming up is the easiest and most boring decision.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2017, 03:12:47 pm by Mark[KTP] »

Offline Yash

  • VIP
  • Hero Member
  • **
  • Posts: 549
  • Rank: Sucka
  • Score: 2448
  • “Anyone can do my job, but no one can be me.”
Re: Fundamental Problem
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2017, 03:24:25 pm »
So the thing is Mark ,  a couple of months ago you made a clan named KTP and what i remember is , you guys used to roam in a group like atleast 4 terros together and kill everyone , But you never thought about this thing before because you used to have players to cover for you ! But now since half of your members are Banned , and half of them are in other clans you feel unsafe on the server! So , if you think you can prove anything by making this suggestion then you are wrong because there are already players like Mia , Altus_Demens , Litteratus , Finisha who also make no alliance but they are not stupid like you to Make such a topic !
-1
#PlanB.Echo* [14] VIP Chat Quinn: How's Kencer
#PlanB.Echo* [10] VIP Chat Schottky_BiB: deadman?
#PlanB.Echo* [32] VIP Chat [RZ]Deadman: ?
#PlanB.Echo* [10] VIP Chat Schottky_BiB: yash is asking how are you
#PlanB.Echo* [9] VIP Chat SatviK:  XD
#PlanB.Echo* [14] VIP Chat Quinn: Xd

Offline Miau

  • VIP
  • Hero Member
  • **
  • Posts: 565
  • Rank: Jacker
  • Score: 46079
Re: Fundamental Problem
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2017, 04:02:27 pm »
Needless to say my point of view is identical, but I don't think removing VIP features is an option. At least that's what Jonne said when someone suggested to disable fast skins

Trying to force people to play fairly won't lead anywhere. It works way better when they realize which gameplay is the most exciting to play. Well, actually I'm pretty sure everybody has way more fun trying to take down Altus, a bunch of LoDs and me than they would if we all worked together to kill newbies. The next step is to make it widespread  ;)

Anyways, you can tell more and more people are leaving the traditional alliances behind. It used to be only Altus and Litteratus and a couple more, then I joined, KTP appared (first clan supporting this idea), Finisha, a bunch of latinos ganged up in zA (second clan supporting this idea)... Recently I saw people like Goldy or Ege fighting regulars, which was absolutely a surprise for me.

If zA or KTP didn't work it's because you were like in a permanent clanwar attitude. It's not a clanwar, it's your default gameplay. You don't have to camp at armor and wait for the other clan to show up. You can try to kill the presi and, if they show up, you can do whatever is convenient for you to reach your goal. You will die less, you will kill more, you will take it easier and they will try harder. From our experience, working in couples rather than in clans helps to keep things under control.
Oh! I don't want to fight you, Jorah the Andal. What do I have to gain? If I win, I'm the shit who killed an old man. If I lose, I'm the shit who was killed by an old man.

~ Daario Naharis

Offline Hito

  • VIP
  • Hero Member
  • **
  • Posts: 762
  • Rank: Homeboy
  • Score: 18865
Re: Fundamental Problem
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2017, 04:34:00 pm »
OK let's try mia gameplay :
Clan A (cops)
Clan B ( terrorist)
Clan C (cops)
Clan D (terrorist)
Okey we will play the gamemode so all kill each other, clan A kill clan B then they will start say a child words like ez backstabber so a war bettewen terrorist and cops then clan A call another clan to help them ( clan C)
Same goes for clan D who will help clan B
A new war
No one play the gm
No armor shooting
Ppl get banned
Peace between clan
No shooting
And then the same shit back again about playing ptp

Offline Madman

  • VIP
  • Hero Member
  • **
  • Posts: 1483
  • Rank: Shooter
  • Score: 56402
Re: Fundamental Problem
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2017, 05:59:51 pm »
If ur saying tht PTP is a tdm and everyone should kill each other ill garauntiee u 100% tht ptp wont run at least for a month or week
menace> {33CCFF}[4] {FFFFFF}SMALL PENIS IRAN DOGS
menace> {33CCFF}[4] {FFFFFF}SMALL PENIS IRAN DOGS
Dr.MaDMaN[GgT]> {33CCFF}[3] {FFFFFF}Retarded mode is on
DedeceK> {33CCFF}[27] {FFFFFF}LOL
DedeceK> {33CCFF}[27] {FFFFFF}madman he wanan mute again

Offline Crash

  • VIP
  • Hero Member
  • **
  • Posts: 998
  • Rank: Playa Partner
  • Score: 10053
  • aka Kobe
Re: Fundamental Problem
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2017, 11:14:23 pm »
Since PPLV is first legit,pro organization that has been runing here since beginning,you came up with idea to start change shit?! Since 2007? Bitch please,if you dont like it,leave it. You will be always gang banged.