[To be added]Remove SWAT or swap weapons with police

[LPCOLTER]

just some modifications are thus wanted by all.

Could you elaborate on that? Because there are many suggestions about modifications and none of them received major support.

If the suggestions didn't receive support earlier, how can they get support now?

I think people should change their mindsets about both old and upcoming suggestions regarding to this class.

Your thinking doesn't change the hypocrisy of the people dayum

[Matt]

Swat shouldnt be removed but it should be fixed up with better logic

[Saurabh]

Swat shouldnt be removed but it should be fixed up with better logic

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Put it into use when the president asks for backup with/bu. Idk how, just think of the use

[Jonne]

I also think it shouldn't be removed, or that we should change other classes because of it. What about adding a sniper for the SWAT class? It won't replace a current weapon, just as an additional weapon. I think that might make the class a bit more attractive. It also kind of falls into its 'theme', and it would give the chance to non-VIPs to use a sniper.

[Shark_The_Helicopter]

That's worse Jonne,cops already camp at armor, I don't want wannabe tryhards that people are when they get VIP for the first time to be at Main Armor. Even more importantly there is no terrorist equivalent of it. Terrorist would be completely outclassed. M4 is still vastly superior to the AK,Uzi is better in close range,Deagle is relative to Spaz itself.

Adding of sniper is just worse. Rather why not change take advantage of the problem instead? Change the impact SWATs make on the server balance, lower their impact. So if the odds are against the president and a civ can't RC he can go SWAT.

And on a similar note, why not add the SWAT counterpart to the terrorists to make use of the same but from a terro perspective?

[Yan]

if you add sniper the SWAT should be limited because all non vip (with clan war will camp in armour with it ) or creat new Duty for this class

[Chetan]

I also think it shouldn't be removed, or that we should change other classes because of it. What about adding a sniper for the SWAT class? It won't replace a current weapon, just as an additional weapon. I think that might make the class a bit more attractive. It also kind of falls into its 'theme', and it would give the chance to non-VIPs to use a sniper.

I like what you are saying, giving Non-VIPs a great chance to use sniper, but make sure it is not abused. As Yan Suggested:

if you add sniper the SWAT should be limited because all non vip (with clan war will camp in armour with it ) or creat new Duty for this class

[Ahsoka_Tano]

Mp5 with sniper pls try it out for a week

[Spici_Popot]

LOL that class makes a better view as they understand it as (Special weapons and tactics) "SWAT"
HAHA but Jonne couldn't understand it that time,
Its happens and now HE WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THINK

I HERE FINISH MY TWO WORDS..
"WE CAN".

[Finisher]

Removing the team is the best solution, you can’t revive what’s been dead for over a decade with adding a sniper

[Miau]

I wouldn't recommend adding snipers for SWAT. Protecting classes are already overdemanded, most [new] players won't be terrorists unless forced by the auto team balance. Now auto team balance is doing a much better job, but I think that making terrorist class even less attractive compared to protecting classes is not what we need.

I still don't see any reason not to remove SWAT. This class is only used by newbies that either

• Like the FBI or SWAT skin, which could be simply added to police class
• Are misled by class name and believe that they are going to get enhanced weapons

[Aksel]

Just give swat guns similar to cop's and problem solved

[Hito]

Just give swat guns similar to cop's and problem solved

ABSOLUTE MAD LAD!!!

[YoMama]

What about adding a sniper for the SWAT class? It won't replace a current weapon, just as an additional weapon. I think that might make the class a bit more attractive. It also kind of falls into its 'theme', and it would give the chance to non-VIPs to use a sniper.

I think snipers are way overpowered as it is. I don't think giving them to SWAT would help anything, except probably making the SWAT class a crowded part of the already often disproportionately large protecting side which has far superior weapons at longer distances regardless (the M4 with maxed-out skill). It would be even more difficult to be a terrorist. As it is, I often feel like I'm having a harder time being one of the few terrorists chasing than the President is running, since it seems like I often have more members of the protecting team trying to stop just me than there are terrorists chasing.

I generally think that the M4 should be made a little less powerful. Lower the skill for the police and security M4s and give SWAT more skill with them, that will make SWAT a little more special. You can't really make SWAT better than the police when the police already have some of the best weapons around and maxed-out skill. Giving the SWAT higher M4 skill would push it into more of a long-distance role than the others (except the sniper breaks that balance, as usual).

[Acze]

What about adding a sniper for the SWAT class? It won't replace a current weapon, just as an additional weapon. I think that might make the class a bit more attractive. It also kind of falls into its 'theme', and it would give the chance to non-VIPs to use a sniper.

I think snipers are way overpowered as it is. I don't think giving them to SWAT would help anything, except probably making the SWAT class a crowded part of the already often disproportionately large protecting side which has far superior weapons at longer distances regardless (the M4 with maxed-out skill). It would be even more difficult to be a terrorist. As it is, I often feel like I'm having a harder time being one of the few terrorists chasing than the President is running, since it seems like I often have more members of the protecting team trying to stop just me than there are terrorists chasing.

I generally think that the M4 should be made a little less powerful. Lower the skill for the police and security M4s and give SWAT more skill with them, that will make SWAT a little more special. You can't really make SWAT better than the police when the police already have some of the best weapons around and maxed-out skill. Giving the SWAT higher M4 skill would push it into more of a long-distance role than the others (except the sniper breaks that balance, as usual).

Just gonna say that as well, just add M4 to SWAT and give them some power.. then problem solved.