...yeah but spray cans have limited ammo and is mostly ineffective against a target - I'm not saying it's useless, it just doesn't help all the time. Also chainsaw kills faster.
VIPs use it? No problem!
Removing it definitely won't make anything better and leaving it the way it is won't make anything worse.
also we can just add /holiday eng as a pro tip to those random server messages
tldr: if the command is removed, regulars won't be able to use it for their advantage - this is good for the newbies, but they will lose the only chance they have against a sniper.
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I'm not saying I want to remove the weapons. I'm saying I want to remove the command that magically gives them to you. Spray cans are far from ineffective- they disable you for a fairly long period, and they can be easily used on multiple people at once. The chainsaw you can at least escape, and you can't really use it on two people at once unless luck is involved. I don't like how someone can do /holiday eng when they are in a spot where they would otherwise die, then they spray everyone until they either escape or get help. I'm OK with a pickup, because it means that they have to actually strategize.
I think removing it will make things more interesting because people will actually have to go to pickups to get weird weapons. Rifles are not even close to a chance against a sniper. I think the sniper should be weakened, or maybe *gasp* turned into a pickup for VIPs only along with the chainsaw instead of giving everyone annoying weapons for a reason that simply isn't valid.
As for rifle it should stay a VIP feature only, I don't agree with it being a command for everyone.
It's an overall shitty weapon. Why would you keep it to VIPs? I just don't like people magically being able to get it when they need a weapon to pop tires from a driveby position.
by the way, /holiday eng command has a huge role in the way we play the gm, having 11 nades and rifle are best combination a non vip can have(and even VIPs use this)
This helps a non VIP a lot, nade storm can easily kill 10 secs around president and can even clear the chaos at main armour spawn.
It's like we are too much used to it, and removal of it will change our gameplay for sure
I agree with you that it has a huge role. However, I don't think it's a good one, which is why I'm suggesting that the weapons be pickups instead. I'm really not sure I agree with you on the "best combination", but you'd still be able to get it with pickups. Grenades don't "clear chaos at main armour spawn", they add to the bullshit that goes on there.
One of the worst effects /holiday eng has, in my opinion, is empowering the civilian class. I think it pushes people away from being terrorists or cops and consequentially makes people less likely to play the gamemode.
