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Re: Allow the President to fly aircraft
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2016, 06:17:29 pm »
Mark in past was some bug and presi can use some planes, its bad idea)

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Re: Allow the President to fly aircraft
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2016, 06:21:32 pm »
+1

It's not any worse than NRG whoring presis that survive a whole LV round almost flawlessly speeding around Julius Thruway.
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Re: Allow the President to fly aircraft
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2016, 06:37:43 pm »
No. After all those chases are part of terrorists' duty, but I don't think it's a good idea to keep the whole security team unsuccesfully trying to reach the president for 15 minutes. Any new addition to the gamemode should encourage security to work together with the president, like real bodyguards, not the opposite.
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Re: Allow the President to fly aircraft
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2016, 07:39:46 pm »
No. After all those chases are part of terrorists' duty, but I don't think it's a good idea to keep the whole security team unsuccesfully trying to reach the president for 15 minutes. Any new addition to the gamemode should encourage security to work together with the president, like real bodyguards, not the opposite.

Well, in real life Presidents have emergency planes on their disposal. Sure, they don't pilot themselves, but you get my meaning here. Like I said, we should add it and see how it goes, it can't hurt. And maybe the solution is to make only Shamal available to the President so that at least some Securities can follow him.

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Re: Allow the President to fly aircraft
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2016, 08:00:18 pm »
Altus on rustler and nrg very easy survive, there no team work, when i play a presi, i prefere give more action for ppl around) when presi alone run away, its borry)

This is interesting ^^


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Re: Allow the President to fly aircraft
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2016, 08:19:15 pm »
Insured that map borders will be remade since that is good camping spot to avoid rustler dmg.
And im not sure that ruslers max flying height is the same as helicopters.
You can't really camp in a Rustler- running away is the worst thing you can do, strategically. A lot of people think that Rustlers can't fly as high as helicopters. Helicopters can go to 815 on /dl. If you fly above 800 in a Rustler, you get pulled back down to 800 at some point- it's like your engine dies. However, you can push it up, but it's difficult to do- I want to say I've gotten to at least 850, but I'd have to try again to find out how high you can go. If you think this would be ideal for camping, it isn't. You come falling down from above 800 with very little speed, so you're not in a good position. Also, if you are stupid enough to go all the way to the top of the map, you've thrown away your altitude advantage- you're sort of screwed.

No. After all those chases are part of terrorists' duty, but I don't think it's a good idea to keep the whole security team unsuccesfully trying to reach the president for 15 minutes.
I fly the President around as security often. I almost always have some security flying with me. If there are enough Rustlers, their ability to stick with the President is dependent on their skill level, not the fact that the President is in the air.

Altus on rustler and nrg very easy survive, there no team work, when i play a presi, i prefere give more action for ppl around) when presi alone run away, its borry)
Any new addition to the gamemode should encourage security to work together with the president, like real bodyguards, not the opposite.
There is teamwork involved- as I said above, the security don't just give up when planes are involved- if they do, they're bad security. Just because the security aren't in the same vehicle as the President doesn't mean that they aren't doing anything. I often follow the President on an NRG, usually alone, so he can jack me or get on if he gets into trouble, and so I can take out the terrorists chasing him without slowing him down by being his passenger or waiting for people to get super close before I can shoot them. The president often has a cadre of security on bikes. I don't think having a President flying around with a little formation of security Rustlers surrounding him would show a lack of teamwork.

... maybe the solution is to make only Shamal available to the President so that at least some Securities can follow him.
Bad idea- Shamals are very fast, it would actually be quite difficult to shoot a President down if he were in a Shamal. If someone chases you, you just outrun them with pure speed and/or climb up to a higher altitude so quickly that they can't follow. I think anything faster than a Rustler (Shamals and Hydras) should be unavailable to him or limited for this reason. In the case of the Shamal, if he were able to fly it, I would put a harsh timer on it, for example, once he takes off, he has 1:30 to get out of it (give him a timer he can see) before he "runs out of gas" like they do in roleplay servers. Again, this is the only penalty timer I would support on planes.

YoMama, sorry i just said my opinion it's ok if they disagree.
I don't mind if you disagree with me! That's one of the reasons why the forum exists, so people can debate things like this. I'm not that petty (or at least I don't think I am ;) ).


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Re: Allow the President to fly aircraft
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2016, 10:45:54 pm »
... maybe the solution is to make only Shamal available to the President so that at least some Securities can follow him.
Bad idea- Shamals are very fast, it would actually be quite difficult to shoot a President down if he were in a Shamal. If someone chases you, you just outrun them with pure speed and/or climb up to a higher altitude so quickly that they can't follow. I think anything faster than a Rustler (Shamals and Hydras) should be unavailable to him or limited for this reason. In the case of the Shamal, if he were able to fly it, I would put a harsh timer on it, for example, once he takes off, he has 1:30 to get out of it (give him a timer he can see) before he "runs out of gas" like they do in roleplay servers. Again, this is the only penalty timer I would support on planes.

Had no idea that Shamals were actually faster than Rustlers LOL xD Well, in that case I agree with you on that timer thingy, it could just work

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Re: Allow the President to fly aircraft
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2016, 12:08:29 am »
Had no idea that Shamals were actually faster than Rustlers LOL xD Well, in that case I agree with you on that timer thingy, it could just work
lol bro xD shamal is in jet class and almost has same speed with hydras  :D


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Re: Allow the President to fly aircraft
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2016, 06:22:54 am »
What about those who cant ride a Rustler???
No. After all those chases are part of terrorists' duty, but I don't think it's a good idea to keep the whole security team unsuccesfully trying to reach the president for 15 minutes. Any new addition to the gamemode should encourage security to work together with the president, like real bodyguards, not the opposite.
Agree. -1

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Re: Allow the President to fly aircraft
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2016, 10:05:50 am »
I know that u can get same height in rustler as heli`s, but you can barely aim and shoot when you moving from 800 to 850. Maybe putting a horizontal border at 800-point will solve this problem.
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Re: Allow the President to fly aircraft
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2016, 10:28:07 am »
What about those who cant ride a Rustler???
Learn!

I know that u can get same height in rustler as heli`s, but you can barely aim and shoot when you moving from 800 to 850. Maybe putting a horizontal border at 800-point will solve this problem.
Sure, but it's unnecessary. Dropping down from 850 to 800 makes you a sitting duck.

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Re: Allow the President to fly aircraft
« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2016, 12:54:38 pm »
What about those who cant ride a Rustler???
Learn!

"Hey, I need to kill the presi, but he is on a rustler! I need to learn to fly rustler in less than 15 minutes!"

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Re: Allow the President to fly aircraft
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2016, 04:28:01 pm »
I fly the President around as security often. I almost always have some security flying with me. If there are enough Rustlers, their ability to stick with the President is dependent on their skill level, not the fact that the President is in the air.

Of course it's possible to escort the president no matter what he's doing, but I'm just saying it will discourage teamwork. Especially if you consider that the security team is usually a group of newbies that can barely stick with the president when he's camping or driving around in a regular car.
It's all about making the security necessary for presidents' survival and create more action and fights. I understand that camping on an aircraft is much safer and easier for the president, but he can't simply ignore his team, because they also need to have fun, take part in the survival and feel useful in any sort of way.
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Re: Allow the President to fly aircraft
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2016, 05:48:12 pm »
What about those who cant ride a Rustler???
Learn!
It's not easy to learn how to fly with Rustler especially for those newbies in this game.

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Re: Allow the President to fly aircraft
« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2016, 06:37:03 pm »
Shamals ? LOL wtf ?

Yomama you type too much, summerise your essays..
I completely disagree on the basis of above replies.
Good luck.

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