Mive for admin again!

[Matt]

Wise words @Cobra

Well, first things first - WHAT MIVE DID WAS WRONG !!! you cannot justify it in any way... always remember with power comes responsibility, you cannot justify thAt he has done so much for the server and all so let him give a pass . It was his mistake to act childish ..he did abuse his power to gain an advantage over a regular one. Here the point is above "old clanmate " and betrayal bullshit, the thing is to set an ideal, if you do wrong you will get punished no matter if you are admin, mod, regular or a newbie ....if you do wrong you get the punishment it's like deterrence for other admins as well .' a true democracy ' .

Let's suppose , if mive's action was ignored then ... this was like an encouragement for other admins/players and as well as for Mive too ...actually it was a good step! and the staff who voted against are I believe they have a sheer sense of judgement.

We all here because of Tenshi and his mischievous friend who dint give a shit about rules ..actually!
they were like - hey! we are admins here, we can do anything we want ...don't you think so? 

+ We know you have been here since 2006 ...you need not keep us reminding it every time?  Also, it's for everyone who thinks they are here before anyone else blah blah so they are 'higher' and others are 'low'

Act mature! at least you shouldn't be justifying this case, you were the last person I was expecting to justify this and again if you are going to attack me going personal on this then I pity you bruh.

In conclusion ! I think mive , did a good job .. he did a mistake, he accepted it and resigned! That's what a dignified person should do !

Mive's actions do speak for themselves.
In no way is Cobra, or even myself, specifically defending Mive's actions.
In no way do I care about the childish drama between friends and ex friends either.

What's wrong is the way it was handled. I was demoted over a few counts of admin abuse as well. In the end, I probably deserved it over the few things that I did.

Mive left over one report over a small action.  I believe the actions were unfair and he should have received a slight punishment but nothing harsh, that made him leave, because after all, it was only one report. I'm  not sure how Mive left over something like that but I feel like something is being covered up. One small thing like that should not force a staff member to leave or get demoted.

Something common between both servers is we got an ego staff train building up though. Nothing new to see here. Seems like lots of admins are cozy warm with the owner. And that's what caused Tenshi's server to primarily fail, people were tired of it.

Tenshi's server was great, but in the end, he ruined it for himself with many different things. Unless you've actually played there you shouldn't have any right to say shit and shit about players from there.

Also, COBRA can say what he wants he has a right and a seniority in this community. I guess you're a "bully" so that doesn't matter. Like you said above, you should "act mature" yourself. Or know your role and shut your mouth. I've been playing since 2011, by the way, if you care.

In the end, Mive made a mistake but resigning over something like that? Something is being covered up. I certainly didn't resign over what I was demoted for, and even tried to defend my actions, but I guess I deserved to be demoted.

[cobby]

I totally agree that the demotion was handled in a very bad way. People should vote it over up.1 Report = -1 chance for Mive to be an admin , but here we 4 people are pushing him back means +4 chance of Mive being an admin so our vote covers up the -1 chance and adds 3 more as described.

I extremely am fierce for this because he really deserves Admin level , he played/joined PTP before Jonne or any other 'Staff' members.And if they come up with a new Admin like Mive , Mia and Hauntzz. They should probably give them a proper chance of an year and maybe more if they act up upon helping the server.Mive only have showed a little bit of him , his true 100% could never be imagined to help this server.


Jonne probably needs to give Mive another chance and if he does he needs to give him proper time before and after.

And Skittle vary guut admen

[Zeta]

I totally agree that the demotion was handled in a very bad way. People should vote it over up.1 Report = -1 chance for Mive to be an admin , but here we 4 people are pushing him back means +4 chance of Mive being an admin so our vote covers up the -1 chance and adds 3 more as described.

I extremely am fierce for this because he really deserves Admin level , he played/joined PTP before Jonne or any other 'Staff' members.And if they come up with a new Admin like Mive , Mia and Hauntzz. They should probably give them a proper chance of an year and maybe more if they act up upon helping the server.Mive only have showed a little bit of him , his true 100% could never be imagined to help this server.


Jonne probably needs to give Mive another chance and if he does he needs to give him proper time before and after.

And Skittle vary guut admen

Yes👌
I told it to Jonne Many Times But he Dont F**king Care About This...Always Admins and Headadmins Should Do this...We Just Give Our Money To them....

[Yobe]

First off, fuck you all. 

Second, you all need to see the big picture. The game is dying and so is this entire community. All the work, every post, all the drama, most of your old friends, will be long gone. As I wipe a tear away, I think of how to make the best out of this time where everyone is locked down and playing SAMP once more. I cannot believe people brushed the dust of this game. Out of every other game out there, everyone starts playing SAMP again. Why mess that up by demoting and acting like assholes? Where was the due process in Mive's situation? Did the staff vote or talk about it? Did Jonne seek others' opinions before making his move? I don't think so. Look what came out of it! More pointless drama, wasted time, and most importantly, the loss of a good staff member and friend to play SAMP with. Fuck that. Yes Mive should've been spanked but not shot in the face.

Focus on what we are all here for. To play a video game and have fun getting away from our daily stress. Im not saying delete the forums or forgive those who trespassed, but have some forgiveness and move on.

[cobby]

First off, fuck you all. 

What a kind and generous way to start a post!  , Am proud.


The rest you said , Yobe, I agree on/upon that.

Yes👌
I told it to Jonne Many Times But he Dont F**king Care About This...Always Admins and Headadmins Should Do this...We Just Give Our Money To them....

Yes, but No, This staff I'm not gonna insult (about) because of the 0 ball warnings they give out.

Instead I'm relying on the fact that Not   only Heads and Administrator s should vote for 'admen'  but regulars , Vips , and normal (non admin nor mod players) should vote aswell and it's not reckless.

P.S:

Also I'm not gonna bitch here about any wrongful past decisions they made.

But one thing is clear, that is that, Jonne did not take up other's (admeeens) seeking options and opinions they really had to give -_- bruhhh.

Please ask someone , ffs.

Skitle guut liv longg.

[Bully]

What's wrong is the way it was handled. I was demoted over a few counts of admin abuse as well. In the end, I probably deserved it over the few things that I did.

They way you making such a statement so casually pretty much proves everything? You were just demoted after a few counts of admin abuse ....this is what I was talking about !!! ADMINS making it a habit of it(admin abuse) ... which later become a routine, they they all seem pretty much chill about it as if nothing happens in old ptp...because most admins abuse power back then.
 As Tenshi and his friend were setting miles in admin abuse ... they dint mind much about subordinates ! just like Birds of same feather flock together. 

Mive leftover one report over a small action.  I believe the actions were unfair and he should have received a slight punishment but nothing harsh, that made him leave because after all, it was only one report. I'm  not sure how Mive left over something like that but I feel like something is being covered up. One small thing like that should not force a staff member to leave or get demoted.

Not everyone has compromised with their dignity, there are still few people who don't dig for power. MIVE has set an example...he did a mistake, he chose to resign instead being just like you :p

Something common between both servers is we got an ego staff train building up though. Nothing new to see here. Seems like lots of admins are cozy warm with the owner. And that's what caused Tenshi's server to primarily fail, people were tired of it.

what are you talking about? prove you point ...don't make just vague statements projecting them in a blanket of human behavior. Admins here are humble and
just like regular players.

Tenshi's server was great, but in the end, he ruined it for himself with many different things. Unless you've actually played there you shouldn't have any right to say shit and shit about players from there.

SEE ! THIS WAS EXACTLY THE THING I WAS TALKING ABOUT!  I have been there !! my friend, I am AshKay if you remember, if have faced the worst of Tenshi ...so you don't talk you were on the asslicking side! Also
what the difference between players from here and players from there? if you are trying to create a divide so gain respect, like- hey! we are from old ptp , dont talk shit to us , respect us ..BULLSHIT

Also, COBRA can say what he wants he has a right and seniority in this community. I guess you're a "bully" so that doesn't matter. Like you said above, you should "act mature" yourself. Or know your role and shut your mouth. I've been playing since 2011, by the way, if you care.

read this sentence atleast 10 time ...you will know it yourself ! BOOMER BHAI
See this childish behavior of "I was here before you should be"  stopped! there is nothing to be proud of...

[Matt]

They way you making such a statement so casually pretty much proves everything? You were just demoted after a few counts of admin abuse ....this is what I was talking about !!! ADMINS making it a habit of it(admin abuse) ... which later become a routine, they they all seem pretty much chill about it as if nothing happens in old ptp...because most admins abuse power back then.
 As Tenshi and his friend were setting miles in admin abuse ... they dint mind much about subordinates ! just like Birds of same feather flock together.

Casually? I wanted to make a statement cause I haven't honestly spoken about it since it happened. There was no need to give it attention then. This time was the right place to do it.
Tenshi's server had its pros and cons but it's not my problem that someone upset your ass over there which sent you crying to this day.

Not everyone has compromised with their dignity, there are still few people who don't dig for power. MIVE has set an example...he did a mistake, he chose to resign instead being just like you :p

Who's digging for power, you're digging for some attention. Why don't you get some context on what happened before judging the situation. That's what I did so that's why I replied to this topic. So you're telling me resigning over one little mistake is correct? I didn't resign because I felt the same way and had some dignity till the very end.

what are you talking about? prove you point ...don't make just vague statements projecting them in a blanket of human behavior. Admins here are humble and
just like regular players.

Don't speak proper English? I'm making a statement based on my experiences on both servers. What's so humble with resigning over a small mistake? What have staff done here that hasn't happened on the other server?

SEE ! THIS WAS EXACTLY THE THING I WAS TALKING ABOUT!  I have been there !! my friend, I am AshKay if you remember, if have faced the worst of Tenshi ...so you don't talk you were on the asslicking side! Also
what the difference between players from here and players from there? if you are trying to create a divide so gain respect, like- hey! we are from old ptp , dont talk shit to us , respect us ..BULLSHIT

I don't remember you pretty well because you don't even want to use your old name here, so it's not my problem to remember the 10x names you've come up with before this. Not my problem that you rulebroke or hacked. I earned my status on the old community and that's it. I played for the gamemode and that's what I still do today. I could care less who is owner or admin. Who's trying to divide who? Who gave you the right to tell me that? You shouldn't count as old PTP player in that case, you got yourself banned and had to wait for a new community to show up again.

read this sentence atleast 10 time ...you will know it yourself ! BOOMER BHAI
See this childish behavior of "I was here before you should be"  stopped! there is nothing to be proud of...

Reread the way you're replying to me instead of having a conversation, then tell me if that's childish or not. Gotta act like a child with another child. Sucks people like yourself can't have a decent conversation nor contribute to it.

[Lizard_Person]

Happy birthday to Bugs Bunny and Portugues!!

Many wishes!!!!

[cobby]

Happy birthday to Bugs Bunny and Portugues!!

Many wishes!!!!

No , this is Mive topic , your post will be deleted.

[Bully]

Casually? I wanted to make a statement cause I haven't honestly spoken about it since it happened. There was no need to give it attention then. This time was the right place to do it.
Tenshi's server had its pros and cons but it's not my problem that someone upset your ass over there which sent you crying to this day.

Who's digging for power, you're digging for some attention. Why don't you get some context on what happened before judging the situation. That's what I did so that's why I replied to this topic. So you're telling me resigning over one little mistake is correct? I didn't resign because I felt the same way and had some dignity till the very end.

Yes exactly this is the right time and right moment to get the attention and sympathy you want then without being judged also resigning was Mive's decision he felt that way, I find it right in my own way ..why you bumped up? I have the necessary information ...to make an opinion. I am really not into internal politics, bitching, asslicking.

Don't speak proper English? I'm making a statement based on my experiences on both servers. What's so humble with resigning over a small mistake? What have staff done here that hasn't happened on the other server?

So this is you experience?  who is argumenting me over a simple case of admin abuse and justifying why it should be surpassed ?
I do speak English!  Looks like you lack some brains to understand the simple point ... ever heard of the word "Natural Justice"?  A mistake is a mistake,no matter how big and punishment should be likewise.

let me explain you with a simple example: You get a traffic ticket for breaking traffic rules right? No matter how big or small mistake is you will get punished according to law ..because stakes are high at the road ..and your ignorance could cause serious damage to property and life of others. What If a traffic cop breaks the rules? He will be punished in the same matter as a normal person ..or would you let him pass away?  Do you think its right for his superiors to get biased while dealing with his case?  What if his ignorance become a habit, what if starts to misuse his powers ! the same case is here ...don't take anything literally this is just an example!

I don't remember you pretty well because you don't even want to use your old name here, so it's not my problem to remember the 10x names you've come up with before this. Not my problem that you rule broke or hacked. I earned my status on the old community and that's it. I played for the game mode and that's what I still do today. I could care less who is owner or admin. Who's trying to divide who? Who gave you the right to tell me that? You shouldn't count as old PTP player in that case, you got yourself banned and had to wait for a new community to show up again.

This is my second nick (just ashkay and bully)... and I assure you that I have changed my nick less than the no. of times you have changed from getting into RD and kicked. Even I am not bothered who is admin /owner. I am just putting my opinion. I come here to play the game mode, I don't seek any power, competitive edge, status, clan membership , internal politics etc.  PTP is not a life to me. For you being a try hard to get admin status("earned my status") , maintaining it even after multiple admin abuses(by asslicking ), to getting into RD again (SIGH!)....i hate going personal, let's not get deep into it !

Reread the way you're replying to me instead of having a conversation, then tell me if that's childish or not. Gotta act like a child with another child. Sucks people like yourself can't have a decent conversation nor contribute to it.

Sorry grandpa! If you mistake a little wit in a statement for childishness .. I can't argue you further. I have heard stories of you being a brainless argumentator  . So , I am out ! I have made my point which is loud and clear ..is you get offended then it's your problem. People like you are the reason why old ptp was such a mess - Lack of judgemental sense, brainless argumenting and hypocrisy .

[Lizard_Person]

Happy birthday to Bugs Bunny and Portugues!!

Many wishes!!!!

No , this is Mive topic , your post will be deleted.

My bad. You see, I didn't read the title, but only read the first, most important post. Stupid me.

[Carg]

Happy birthday! #JusticeForMive

[cobby]

Ewww an admin ^
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Btw stop fighting you kids Bully and Matt.
Matt there is no point of talking to an irritating guy.

[Lizard_Person]

I really don't get it what is the big deal.

Finisha did, what any other player does, he reported a person abusing his powers. There is proof that Mive was abusing his powers. Finisha has evidence to back his report. That is a fact.

If you are sad, that Mive was punished for abusing his powers, because all other admins are abusing too, post the report. No one is restricting you from posting a report of abuse. There is proof that when it is reported, abuse is dealt with. Done. Film it, post it, done. Why all the salt?

Abuse is not a small thing. Admin abuse is also not a small thing, it is a big thing, for the single reason, that admins are the face of the server. They must follow the rules. If he had been forgiven, than would have been a corrupt action. And corruption is a big no no in the modern world.

What makes you think, that Mive won't get a second chance? If one learns from his mistake and shows it, he will be probably be forgiven, hell, he might even become an admin again, but coming to this topic, and raging over a small thing as this...it's stupid. Waste of time. Instead of celebrating two birthdays, you are here raging, salting over nothing. What is done, is done. That is it. You can't rewrite history, you can only learn from it.

[cobby]

Lizard person, It's just sad that Mive got demoted , We are here just because of sadness.