Mive for admin again!

[Lizard_Person]

Lizard person, It's just sad that Mive got demoted , We are here just because of sadness.

Sure, it is sad, but rules are rules, without them, anarchy and corruption would rule.

You just have to accept the fact that Mive fucked up. There is no use in creating topics/posts discussing this, because it will only create toxic comments and posts.

The ink has dried, the history is written. All he, and everyone else, can do is learn from it.

[cobby]

Ahh , Lizard P , It was just a birthday topic with a funny topic name, But some people turned it into a hassle and we're going on it so I edited it to a Mive- recruiting topic.

[Matt]

Yes exactly this is the right time and right moment to get the attention and sympathy you want then without being judged also resigning was Mive's decision he felt that way, I find it right in my own way ..why you bumped up? I have the necessary information ...to make an opinion. I am really not into internal politics, bitching, asslicking.

Not quite, I could care less about attention and sympathy, in fact I don't need it cause I'm a quiet person and don't like to get involved into crap like this. But I came into this topic to state my opinion on the matter because someone like COBRA decided to voice theirs. Like you came into this topic to state your opinion and pick a fight.

So this is you experience?  who is argumenting me over a simple case of admin abuse and justifying why it should be surpassed ?
I do speak English!  Looks like you lack some brains to understand the simple point ... ever heard of the word "Natural Justice"?  A mistake is a mistake,no matter how big and punishment should be likewise.

let me explain you with a simple example: You get a traffic ticket for breaking traffic rules right? No matter how big or small mistake is you will get punished according to law ..because stakes are high at the road ..and your ignorance could cause serious damage to property and life of others. What If a traffic cop breaks the rules? He will be punished in the same matter as a normal person ..or would you let him pass away?  Do you think its right for his superiors to get biased while dealing with his case?  What if his ignorance become a habit, what if starts to misuse his powers ! the same case is here ...don't take anything literally this is just an example!

You tell me with your spelling errors.
Mive's actions were justified I just felt like they were a bit too harsh.
Regarding traffic tickets, in some cases with traffic tickets you get let go sometimes not all the time. Sure you get punished every time but then the punishment gets doubled. In this case this was a first strike and I felt it was unfair that's all.

This is my second nick (just ashkay and bully)... and I assure you that I have changed my nick less than the no. of times you have changed from getting into RD and kicked. Even I am not bothered who is admin /owner. I am just putting my opinion. I come here to play the game mode, I don't seek any power, competitive edge, status, clan membership , internal politics etc.  PTP is not a life to me. For you being a try hard to get admin status("earned my status") , maintaining it even after multiple admin abuses(by asslicking ), to getting into RD again (SIGH!)....i hate going personal, let's not get deep into it !

Fun fact I've only been kicked once.
So do I, I am still on this community because of the gamemode. It just makes me sad sometimes that people ruin that game for me.
Now regarding admin status, I earned my admin status back then by playing the game, that's all it took. You know what the funny thing is? I never abused any admin things until when this happened. Please talk to people that were staff back then to get your facts right, only they can back up any opinions.
Regarding asslicking, being friends with the owner might count but hey doesn't that happen on here too?
I never once used my friendship to asslick myself into power because even back then I couldn't become admin so fast as some others. I was even demoted for inactivity in the other server, right before it closed. That speaks for itself.
Seems like you like getting personal because that's the best you can do in insulting someone.

Sorry grandpa! If you mistake a little wit in a statement for childishness .. I can't argue you further. I have heard stories of you being a brainless argumentator  . So , I am out ! I have made my point which is loud and clear ..is you get offended then it's your problem. People like you are the reason why old ptp was such a mess - Lack of judgemental sense, brainless argumenting and hypocrisy .

Grandpa! I'm in my 20s. Come back!
Oh really? You've heard stories damn why don't you try having a conversation first.
There is nothing to get offended about, seems like you're offended in the first place bringing up personal things while I knew nothing about you to begin with. That speaks for itself.
I didn't do anything on the server than play and have fun and do my job. I continued doing that here until I was involved in some drama of my own. Why did it take so long to demote me here?
Get your facts right.

Matt there is no point of talking to an irritating guy.

Someone needed to backup his talking points

[Mive]

Wow, I’m astonished by this community, for showing some great support and gratitude. I'm thankful for each one of you who posted here, and I must admit, especially after seeing a couple of names here, this kind of made me think of past and all the fun times we shared within this community.

I’ve spent quite a good quality amount of time playing PTP, I’ve hoped I given the most I can do to offer. But before that, I'd like to get a couple of things off my mind. COBRA is one of by farthest, in my opinion, a key soul member here in PTP, COBRA can say what he wants he has a right and seniority in this community. No matter how big the crowd may be, a person like COBRA will always stand out. Also, Players like Makaveli and Matt who gave into this community deserve credit as you can see the lost interest.

I’ve recognized over the past week I’ve put myself into a situation that I handled respectfully and responsibly. But I never deserved what I have gotten out of this. However, there are numerous reasons for what's exactly wrong with the PTP staff team. They can keep deleting threads and censoring it as much as they want, but at this point, it shapes for itself.

As an admin I observed an unscrupulous staff team, well, to be frank, this staff team turned into a circus, where you have members whose main goal is to exaggerate every little possible thing, to making very constructive replies a pain to read, like who is going to have endless confrontations for the same reason over and over. Adding to that big lack of miscommunication going on, I just feel that the staff team is divided into two parts where you have a lenient side and a tolerant side that needs to be fixed.

[cobby]

Wow, I’m astonished by this community, for showing some great support and gratitude. I'm thankful for each one of you who posted here, and I must admit, especially after seeing a couple of names here, this kind of made me think of past and all the fun times we shared within this community.

I’ve spent quite a good quality amount of time playing PTP, I’ve hoped I given the most I can do to offer. But before that, I'd like to get a couple of things off my mind. COBRA is one of by farthest, in my opinion, a key soul member here in PTP, COBRA can say what he wants he has a right and seniority in this community. No matter how big the crowd may be, a person like COBRA will always stand out. Also, Players like Makaveli and Matt who gave into this community deserve credit as you can see the lost interest.

I’ve recognized over the past week I’ve put myself into a situation that I handled respectfully and responsibly. But I never deserved what I have gotten out of this. However, there are numerous reasons for what's exactly wrong with the PTP staff team. They can keep deleting threads and censoring it as much as they want, but at this point, it shapes for itself.

As an admin I observed an unscrupulous staff team, well, to be frank, this staff team turned into a circus, where you have members whose main goal is to exaggerate every little possible thing, to making very constructive replies a pain to read, like who is going to have endless confrontations for the same reason over and over. Adding to that big lack of miscommunication going on, I just feel that the staff team is divided into two parts where you have a lenient side and a tolerant side that needs to be fixed.

Tolerant side, They misjudged us.

[Carg]

As an admin I observed an unscrupulous staff team, well, to be frank, this staff team turned into a circus, where you have members whose main goal is to exaggerate every little possible thing, to making very constructive replies a pain to read, like who is going to have endless confrontations for the same reason over and over. Adding to that big lack of miscommunication going on, I just feel that the staff team is divided into two parts where you have a lenient side and a tolerant side that needs to be fixed.

Completely agree with you!

[Yobe]

Wow, I’m astonished by this community, for showing some great support and gratitude. I'm thankful for each one of you who posted here, and I must admit, especially after seeing a couple of names here, this kind of made me think of past and all the fun times we shared within this community.

Aye brah, that’s what it’s all about.


As an admin I observed an unscrupulous staff team, well, to be frank, this staff team turned into a circus, where you have members whose main goal is to exaggerate every little possible thing, to making very constructive replies a pain to read, like who is going to have endless confrontations for the same reason over and over. Adding to that big lack of miscommunication going on, I just feel that the staff team is divided into two parts where you have a lenient side and a tolerant side that needs to be fixed.

It is EXTREMELY easy to see how these bipolar sides of the staff lists work. It seriously hurts the game. In my opinion, staff all need to be on one page, one set of rules, and have due process to follow. That’s where Tenshi’s server was hurt. Admins would ban and Tenshi would make most of the big boy rulings. If you wanted to better (steal) a community, then why not make it better than before? It’s starting to seem to me like we’re having the exact same problem that the old PTP has. Owner favoriting friends for staff and letting them get away with being too EXTRA. IF, I had a say in things, why not commence a type of poll or democratic way of getting through big problems. Even if people want to complain, there’s evidence it was a fair decision.

Bully, might want to tighten up on your “conversation”. You’re being quite contradicting to yourself. I know from experience that Matt WILL open a can of whoop-ass.

Mive, great to have you here brother.

Again, I really don’t give a fuck. It’s a game, you’re all my friends and I wouldn’t trade anything for the experiences I’ve had. Learning about all kinds of other people from around the world is the best traveling I’m ever going to do. Thanks to Teamspeak and Discord, I feel Ive gained more knowledge than actually going to said country. I enjoy telling my personal friends how friendly and funny Indian people are. I enjoy telling my family how I want to travel to Mumbai and why I want to go. I would’ve never known about any of you if it wasn’t for this silly ghetto game. Play the game, drop your pride, have forgiveness, quack on!

[DILMA_BR]

#BringBackMive

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#BringBackMive

[cobby]

#BringBackMive

UHUUUUUUU #BringBackMive!

[COBRA]

proof that People may not like you for saying truth . Anarchy in true sense.
I dont understand why people just cant digest that what mive did was wrong and he kinda deserved that . He might be a cool guy but that doesn't mean he gets the very right to abuse his powers .

You can blame admin system , internal politics and what not ...just blame games.
Looks like people  just like the idea of justice but in reality they themselves want to be in darkness , injustice and superficiality.

Bully, you are a good guy, I have no any problem with you. I kept my silence in this topic by reading all you guys arguing about mive's getting demoted. But you miss the WHOLE point which is NOT about MIVE.

It is about Staff team getting created by "friendship" more than the staff member who has ability to moderate server. This is the problem. I'm not angry because of Mive demoted? I'm angry because they FORCED Mive to leave. Who forced Mive? FRIENDSHIP STAFF members forced Mive to resign from team.

Many of them Abused, they still abuse but most of players don't care. Players don't even bothering to report by uploading pics & videos on forum, creating report topic to show Staff FRIENDSHIP member is little abusing. If it is not an abuse, I've heard that current FRIENDSHIP Staff fellas abused so many times in this last months... So why current Staff Members has a right to do it and why Mive was demoted(Forced to leave same as demoted) just because he got caught and others not caught by players?

I mean some Staff gets warned for abusing, some staff gets bullied by other Staff team members because they just don't like him? Look at the Finisher now, he is trying hard to be in that Staff team, because he is trying to be "friends" with them, acting like they are good with eachother. He is asslicking staff on discord & IRC always by chatting, even Finisher wrote on /stats about Skittless, like as asslick level at highest. What if he becomes mod AGAIN (yeah he was mod, he demoted, now trying hard to get mod AGAIN). They will get finisher because he is in friendship, "yeah because he is "good" guy, you know, chatting us always". LOL Don't we realize that try hard?

What we mad about current Staff Team likes asslickers so much, they made a staff team turned into a FRIENDSHIP team and then they forced Mive to leave.

 In my old times, when I was admin; taking new mods was based on their good personality, it was about their matureness, it was about their being a decent guy, it was not okey if the person was asslicking on staff, it was not okey if he was making childish jokes, it was not okey if he was making racist comments on other players, it was not okey if that person was talking shit.
 Now, current Friendship Staff times; taking new mods based on their Total Online Time at server, it is all about their activeness, it is okey if they got reported or banned before, it is okay if they are total roleplayers who acts like a good guy, it is okey if they make racist jokes, it is okay if they total troll on everything, it is very okay if they asslick the staff all the time.

That's why we are mad about. Current staff team turned into a "MAKE MY EGO HIGHEST TEAM", who loves to get asslicked so hard, who loves to make team filled with "friends". Ofcourse all abusers need to be demoted, but if it is all, demote your friends and yourself before you demoting others, right? By Mive getting demoted, we saw current staff team lost it's honest. If Mive got demoted, then everyone single one who did a little abuse on player, should be demoted right in a time.

[cobby]

COBRA, Looks like you've been reading but skipping my replies as I was trying to say something else.

[Mive]

See here, I agree 100 percent with what COBRA just mentioned. He surely did state the TRUTH, It was mentioned that I had resigned from the staff but no, unfortunately, I was given an option to however avoid the 'stigma' around a demotion, which was able to resign myself. I was one of the most active community members playing. Especially when totaling almost thousands of bans and keeping the sever out of harm's way. There is zero appreciation of senior admins/members and they expect to get something in return.

It felt so wrong seeing some staff members to not offer some support while who knows the reasons behind it. However, on the other hand, some admins have 0 clue of what's actually going on, and that are obviously they're kept in the dark, I guess the case was the same with other admins too. And this miscommunication is the exact reason why things like this happen... I mean seriously, whose dumb idea is that, to keep these things in secret all of a sudden.

I guess they don’t deserve me there, they are good with Mia and Altus, actually, Finisher may be fitting now for that admin team, full of trash. And to Altus_Demens you can keep you’re constant negativity and sarcasm that you're bringing, distancing yourselves from regular players, always looking down on them with such a pathetic behavior where it all comes down to ego measurements is not very nice. And speaking apart of that log you gave that should be restricted to admins only wait to go pal.

[SaiFi]

See here, I agree 100 percent with what COBRA just mentioned. He surely did state the TRUTH, It was mentioned that I had resigned from the staff but no, unfortunately, I was given an option to however avoid the 'stigma' around a demotion, which was able to resign myself. I was one of the most active community members playing. Especially when totaling almost thousands of bans and keeping the sever out of harm's way. There is zero appreciation of senior admins/members and they expect to get something in return.

It felt so wrong seeing some staff members to not offer some support while who knows the reasons behind it. However, on the other hand, some admins have 0 clue of what's actually going on, and that are obviously they're kept in the dark, I guess the case was the same with other admins too. And this miscommunication is the exact reason why things like this happen... I mean seriously, whose dumb idea is that, to keep these things in secret all of a sudden.

I guess they don’t deserve me there, they are good with Mia and Altus, actually, Finisher may be fitting now for that admin team, full of trash. And to Altus_Demens you can keep you’re constant negativity and sarcasm that you're bringing, distancing yourselves from regular players, always looking down on them with such a pathetic behavior where it all comes down to ego measurements is not very nice. And speaking apart of that log you gave that should be restricted to admins only wait to go pal.

Chal Chetan Bsdk!

[Chetan]

just lock this damn topic or kids here just keep posting for count