Author Topic: No Racism and Spawn protection zone for President!  (Read 18148 times)

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Re: No Racism and Spawn protection zone for President!
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2017, 11:23:14 pm »
1.) meh let people trash talk most haters lack rational thought and knowledge on the subject at hand anyways.

2.) +1 for dat.
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Re: No Racism and Spawn protection zone for President!
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2017, 02:15:45 am »
For the first one, that's inevitable. There are a lot of people who are insensitive, the best thing to avoid them is just /ignore.

For the second one, it will still be the same. Adding "anti-terrorist zone" at the spawn will just move them a few meters, and still wait for the president to pass there.

However, I have another suggestion for that:

President spawns should be random when he dies near his spawn. Meaning, if the president dies near at the presi spawn, the next president should be respawned into another place.

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Re: No Racism and Spawn protection zone for President!
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2017, 09:19:59 am »
+1 for yash that should be stop
some faggot every day he came in game as undercover
only to insult Islam
he said allah akbar and jihad . and he start  asking who's muslim
we must kill all Muslim  . just because some players in other clan his enemy are Muslim   
BTW : hi has VIP account and his in very big clan and old
 tip : he is Indian i think yash know him
and if he read this post he will know him self
so if i start insult him . i will insult whole country like India just because this little fag
anyway  i will not do the same with him . u cant insult country's or religion's just because little fag
 i have many Indian friends so i want tell him fuck off fag

about freedom  of speech its bullshit with 2 face's
i can insult u your whole family your country and your religion
finally u cant do anything with me that is freedom  of   speech
with all my respect that is bullshit 
 

 

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Re: No Racism and Spawn protection zone for President!
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2017, 10:57:57 am »
Just a example above how people cry on forums with such comments.
Regarding the thread, +1

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Re: No Racism and Spawn protection zone for President!
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2017, 11:17:59 am »
First of all regardless of racism and inappropriate language of text which may hurt you, everyone has freedom of speech so they can say whatever they fucking like and if you dont like it simply ignore the person or just play on so its a stupud suggestion also this game is 18+ so what do you fucking expect. a very bad suggestion -1
Are you 10? Do you even know what Freedom of speech is?
There are certain rules and amendments to be followed and no you cannot be racist. Regarding your statement that its 18+ thing, i can assure you 90% of such abusive words come from minors below 18.

Half of the war and combats in various cities all over the world is due to racism and nation and no you cannot simply ignore it. There's nothing called "insensitive" when it comes to your rights.Community should not tolerate any such kind of words in the server.

Rule should be implemented against racism, religion and nation (Ignoring the minor issues of course ). This is not a fish market but rather an international server where players from all over the world joins to spend their time and make mood. It is community's responsibility to manage the server up to a stable balance. Note that whatever goes in the server reflects the community and its image.

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Re: No Racism and Spawn protection zone for President!
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2017, 11:55:00 am »
Are you 10? Do you even know what Freedom of speech is?
There are certain rules and amendments to be followed and no you cannot be racist.

Follow amendments on the internet? The internet?! Sure thing, buddy :D

Half of the war and combats in various cities all over the world is due to racism and nation and no you cannot simply ignore it. There's nothing called "insensitive" when it comes to your rights.Community should not tolerate any such kind of words in the server.

And there we go. What does one SAMP server have to do with wars because of racism in real life? Nobody here is saying that racism is a good thing, but come on, man. As far as my experience goes, there is like one person in a month that comes to the server with intention to be racist towards everyone or some select people. It's hardly a very common thing here on PTP.

Rule should be implemented against racism, religion and nation (Ignoring the minor issues of course ). This is not a fish market but rather an international server where players from all over the world joins to spend their time and make mood. It is community's responsibility to manage the server up to a stable balance. Note that whatever goes in the server reflects the community and its image.

We had rules against racism and generally griefing on previous version of PTP. Needless to say, it turned into a shit-show with some admins using general-purpose insults as an excuse to call someone racist and ban them just because they didn't like them.
What's next, I ask you? Maybe we'll have some gay players in future here and they will start demanding that the word "gay" (which players here use jokingly most of the time - not counting kids who actually think they can offend someone by calling them gay lol) be banned from use. All you're creating is more and more silly constrictions and rules.

The point here is simple: why would you be so weak to let yourself be offended by some random person on a gaming server? It's not like you can't ignore them. And if they are really stepping out of line, screenshot the chat and make a report (or report ig straight away if there are mods/admins). Simple, isn't it? Much simpler than creating whole bunch of rules and "amendments" as you call it.

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Re: No Racism and Spawn protection zone for President!
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2017, 12:08:33 pm »
-1 for first.We have enough wackos getting offended over trivial things in real life.No need to have more rules on an online GAME when we already have commands like /ignore and /blockpm which if used ensure that you don't have to see anything you don't want to.Ignore trolls and they will stop.Issues like these are very subjective unlike hacks or anything in that there is no yard stick to measure how racist or insulting or derogatory a particular statement is since there can be very different views.

-1 for second suggestion.This has been there in the game for years,don't see why it needs to be changed.

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Re: No Racism and Spawn protection zone for President!
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2017, 12:39:04 pm »
Are you 10? Do you even know what Freedom of speech is?
There are certain rules and amendments to be followed and no you cannot be racist.

Follow amendments on the internet? The internet?! Sure thing, buddy :D

The words i said are in general terms as same as 'Freedom of speech'. None of this are followed in Internet and not even required. Read carefully what i quoted and what replied. Its not related to internet but in general. I replied to his comment which pointed outside the internet since he mentioned that specific term.



Half of the war and combats in various cities all over the world is due to racism and nation and no you cannot simply ignore it. There's nothing called "insensitive" when it comes to your rights.Community should not tolerate any such kind of words in the server.

And there we go. What does one SAMP server have to do with wars because of racism in real life? Nobody here is saying that racism is a good thing, but come on, man. As far as my experience goes, there is like one person in a month that comes to the server with intention to be racist towards everyone or some select people. It's hardly a very common thing here on PTP.

Again i said these in general in reply to his comment. Read carefully again please ^



Rule should be implemented against racism, religion and nation (Ignoring the minor issues of course ). This is not a fish market but rather an international server where players from all over the world joins to spend their time and make mood. It is community's responsibility to manage the server up to a stable balance. Note that whatever goes in the server reflects the community and its image.

We had rules against racism and generally griefing on previous version of PTP. Needless to say, it turned into a shit-show with some admins using general-purpose insults as an excuse to call someone racist and ban them just because they didn't like them.
What's next, I ask you? Maybe we'll have some gay players in future here and they will start demanding that the word "gay" (which players here use jokingly most of the time - not counting kids who actually think they can offend someone by calling them gay lol) be banned from use. All you're creating is more and more silly constrictions and rules.

The point here is simple: why would you be so weak to let yourself be offended by some random person on a gaming server? It's not like you can't ignore them. And if they are really stepping out of line, screenshot the chat and make a report (or report ig straight away if there are mods/admins). Simple, isn't it? Much simpler than creating whole bunch of rules and "amendments" as you call it.

If you enjoy being abused, you're one of them. Be an example to a good thing not an explanation of being 'one of them'. 'Gays' 'Nigga' are common and yes i stated above that minor words can be ignored like such.
Again, read my comment carefully ^.
You are trying to point one thing regardless of understanding what others actually meant (( No offence )).

All i meant is crossing a limit up to an extend which should be treated strictly. This doesn't mean you get ban for calling 'gay' or such. You're mature enough to understand between the limits of words.
Again, please read carefully and understand the meaning. Some sentences were said to mean in general and some related to server. Every example comes from a real life experience and so i stated above the consequences but this doesnt mean it occurs oftenly, or amendments should be made on an internet for such things. Go through my words again ^
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Re: No Racism and Spawn protection zone for President!
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2017, 12:51:46 pm »
Didn't know there are still people who gets offended by the words of a troll* in a community like SAMP. Lol

*Who gives a shit even if it's his/her real thoughts and not a troll?

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Re: No Racism and Spawn protection zone for President!
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2017, 02:30:17 pm »
+1 for racism idea. Because samp not including only specific ages and we have players playing in this server 12 up to 35 years old. For that reason and if you can think about not a single person same with other one in the world, ofcourse there are still someones who gets offended by racist comments. Ignoring the problem is not a solution. Better solve it instead of keeping it..

About spawn thing, I dont think its needed since we have securities to protect president.. but it might be better if we improve the idea more equal for both sides


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Re: No Racism and Spawn protection zone for President!
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2017, 05:18:19 pm »
About Racism , so it is nothing new in PTP and since it is internet don't expect to see everything you like. Internet is full of keyboard warriors so one can go down to worst level to insult each other. BUT I still wish If we could have some rules to prevent server from Racism/Discrimination. Freedom of Speech doesn't mean anyone has to listen the crap you come out with. Some people are religious and If you talk shit about their religion and belief , he/she just can't ignore it. And TBH , it is not one of a big deal to put this rule about Racism , we had rules in past (Old PTP) as well and we still used to had word fights by avoiding racial remarks.

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Re: No Racism and Spawn protection zone for President!
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2017, 05:22:48 pm »
Ignoring the problem is not a solution. Better solve it instead of keeping it..

You do know that racism will never be solved, right? Especially on the internet, no matter how many rules you impose. Ignoring toxic people often means that they will get bored (because they aren't getting any attention or reaction they were expecting) and they will leave you alone.

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Re: No Racism and Spawn protection zone for President!
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2017, 05:43:43 pm »
FUCK Y'ALL


+1 for both



see? its that simple.....


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Re: No Racism and Spawn protection zone for President!
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2017, 05:52:43 pm »
Yes, this problem is very serious and has to be handled fast. This hate speech which is recently becoming more and more common on our server is very dangerous. Just think about those young players (<18) who are joining our community. For such teenagers, our server has an educational mission, because their identity and worldview are still being developed. In my opinion, a fact that they can with impunity humiliate and ridicule others, just because of some factors (which are, nota bene, simply beyond their control, like race etc.) leads them to imitate others who do it. Even without knowing that it's nothing else, but just a racism. We can't ignore and tolerate it. Otherwise, they'll radicalize and will turn those offensive words into action, which may just end badly for them and society.

Following The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), which states that "any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law", I also think that we should get our rules updated.

And please, stop justifying the hate speech with the freedom of speech. I agree, it allows to share a different point of view, but it doesn't allow to insult anyone.


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Re: No Racism and Spawn protection zone for President!
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2017, 06:03:09 pm »
because of Yash stupid dumb fucked suggestion now its becoming a argument, all thanks to him